AGI Greenpac Limited — Q3 FY25 earnings call

Call held 21 Jan 2025

Management summary

AGI Greenpac reported a strong Q3 FY25, driven by a focus on profitability, achieving significant year-on-year growth in EBITDA and PAT. The company maintained high capacity utilization and is actively pursuing strategic initiatives in product premiumization and export expansion. While confident in its outlook, management remained cautious on disclosing specific details regarding alternative growth plans in light of the ongoing HNG acquisition process.

Highlights

  • Total income for Q3 FY25 reached ₹674 crore.

  • EBITDA for Q3 FY25 increased 20.3% YoY to ₹185 crore, with a 27.4% margin.

  • Profit After Tax (PAT) for Q3 FY25 grew 35% YoY to ₹91 crore.

  • For 9M FY25, total income was ₹1,862 crore, EBITDA grew 15.1% YoY to ₹497 crore (26.7% margin), and PAT increased 20.9% YoY to ₹226 crore.

  • Glass container capacity utilization remained strong at over 95%.

  • Company aspires to increase export share from ~5% to around 15% of total top line.

  • Received Bronze at the 2024 International Green Apple Environmental Awards and named 'Decarbonizing Packaging Product Company of the Year 2024'.

Concerns

  • Uncertainty of Hindusthan National Glass (HNG) acquisition

Key financials

2 periods

Q3 FY25

  • Total Income
    ₹674 Cr
  • EBITDA
    ₹185 Cr
    YoY +20.3%
  • EBITDA Margin
    27.4%
  • PAT
    ₹91 Cr
    YoY +35%

9M FY25

  • Total Income
    ₹1,862 Cr
  • EBITDA
    ₹497 Cr
    YoY +15.1%
  • EBITDA Margin
    26.7%
  • PAT
    ₹226 Cr
    YoY +20.9%

What they filed

Q1 FY27: revenue up 14.1%, net profit up 11.2% against the same quarter last year.

₹ Cr · quarterly
Line itemQ2 FY25Q3 FY25Q4 FY25Q1 FY26Q2 FY26Q3 FY26Q4 FY26Q1 FY27
Revenue599 658 705 688 602 +1%634 −4%742 +5%785 +14%
EBITDA154 169 154 142 150 −3%150 −11%153 −1%175 +23%
Net profit72 91 97 89 76 +6%71 −22%115 +19%99 +11%
How to read this

₹ crore, as filed. The percentage beside a figure is the change against the same quarter a year earlier — never the quarter before, which would make every seasonal business look like it collapses and booms each year.

Guidance & targets

Market Share

  • Export Share of Total Top Line Market Share · now · Medium confidence around 15%

    Previously about 5%around 15%

    We want to grow the exports a little higher. Our aspiration is around 15% now.

    — Rajesh Khosla, President and Chief Executive Officer

Product Mix

  • Value-added and Premium Glass Share Product Mix · Low confidence 100%
    As a Company, we have a vision and aspiration to make 100% of our glass as a value-added and premium glass.

    — Rajesh Khosla, President and Chief Executive Officer

  • Premium Glass Share (as % of volume) Product Mix · next 3, 4 years · Medium confidence 20-25%

    From 10-12% today

    That's in our target. That's what Rajesh is trying to say that we aspire towards that, and we are moving directionally towards that.

    — Sandeep Sikka, Group Chief Financial Officer

Risks & concerns

  • Uncertainty of Hindusthan National Glass (HNG) acquisition

    high

    The HNG acquisition is still under Supreme Court judgment, and while management is hopeful, they are not disclosing alternative plans (Plan B) for volume growth if it doesn't go through.

    Analyst acknowledged

  • Raw material price fluctuations

    medium

    Raw material prices like soda ash are fluctuating, but management states they are taking remedial actions and it has not impacted them 'any way' so far.

    Analyst acknowledged

  • Monopolistic fuel supply for Hyderabad plant

    medium

    Bhagyanagar Gas, a city gas distribution agency, has a monopolistic situation for the Hyderabad plant's gas supply, leading to a pricing issue. The company has referred the case to CCI to reduce fuel costs.

    Management acknowledged

Areas of evasion (3)

  • Specific details of 'Plan B' for growth if the HNG acquisition fails
  • Precise volume numbers to calculate glass realization
  • Exact timelines for Supreme Court verdict on HNG

Q&A highlights

2 direct, 1 evasive
Plan B for volume growth if HNG acquisition doesn't go through Evasive
Strong and mature organizations does not depend only on one plan. They have all alternate plans. So, there can be a plan C also in that case. So that is what maximum I can say at this point of time.

Management's reluctance to disclose alternative growth strategies for a key acquisition indicates potential uncertainty or sensitivity around future growth drivers.

Asked by Anil Shah

Sustainability of high EBITDA margins and product mix Direct
We have been replying to this question for the last many quarters, and we have been consistently telling that we will be able to maintain a reasonable level of our growth as well as profitability. And if you take in consideration all of our last few quarters, we are able to maintain our commitment level.

Addresses investor concerns about the cyclicality of the business and the sustainability of current high margins, with management affirming their commitment to maintaining profitability.

Asked by Dhaval Shah

Export share growth and focus on specialty products Direct
We want to grow the exports a little higher. Our aspiration is around 15% now. ... 15% is in total. Specialty will be much, much more and commercial will be a little less.

Highlights a clear strategic shift towards increasing export contribution and focusing on higher-value specialty products within exports, indicating a potential avenue for value growth.

Asked by Parikshit Gupta

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Detailed narrative

Strong Q3 FY25 Performance Driven by Profitability Focus

AGI Greenpac reported a robust Q3 FY25 with total income reaching ₹674 crore. The company's focus on profitability yielded significant results, with EBITDA increasing 20.3% year-on-year to ₹185 crore, achieving a strong 27.4% margin. Profit after Tax (PAT) also saw substantial growth, rising 35% year-on-year to ₹91 crore, demonstrating effective strategic initiatives and cost management.

Solid Nine-Month Financials and High Capacity Utilization

For the first nine months of FY25, AGI Greenpac recorded a total income of ₹1,862 crore. EBITDA grew by 15.1% year-on-year to ₹497 crore, maintaining a healthy EBITDA margin of 26.7%. PAT for the nine-month period increased by 20.9% year-on-year to ₹226 crore. The company maintained strong glass container capacity utilization, exceeding 95%, validating its core strategic priorities.

Strategic Focus on Product Portfolio Optimization and Customer Relationships

Management emphasized disciplined cost management, optimizing the product portfolio, and cultivating strong, long-term customer relationships as key drivers of a resilient and profitable business. The company actively participates in international exhibitions across UAE, U.S.A., and Europe to build visibility and connections with potential clients. AGI Greenpac also received the Bronze at the 2024 International Green Apple Environmental Awards and was named 'Decarbonizing Packaging Product Company of the Year 2024'.

HNG Acquisition Uncertainty and Alternate Growth Strategies

The Hindusthan National Glass (HNG) acquisition remains under Supreme Court judgment, with the outcome awaited. While management expressed hope and positivity, they were reluctant to disclose specific details of 'Plan B' for volume growth if the acquisition does not proceed, citing board approval requirements. However, they indicated that organic growth and opening new facilities could happen 'much, much earlier than 3 years' if needed.

Aspiration for Premiumization and Export Growth

AGI Greenpac holds a vision to transition 100% of its glass production to value-added and premium segments. Currently, specialized glass accounts for approximately 15% to 20% of volumes, with an aspiration to increase the premium mix to 20-25% in the next 3-4 years. The company also aims to significantly increase its export share from a previous 'about 5%' to 'around 15%' of total top line, with a greater focus on specialty products within exports.

Raw Material and Fuel Cost Management

Management acknowledged fluctuations in raw material prices, particularly soda ash, but stated that remedial actions are being taken, and these fluctuations have not significantly impacted results. The company is also actively addressing a monopolistic fuel supply situation with Bhagyanagar Gas for its Hyderabad plant by referring the pricing issue to the Competition Commission of India (CCI) to reduce fuel costs, as the current pricing was not the cheapest option.

Growing Retail Business Initiative

The company highlighted its retail business as a key initiative close to its heart, with plans for significant growth. This B2C venture, focusing on e-commerce, is expected to contribute to value expansion, particularly with small volume changes leading to substantial incremental earnings potential, despite initial marketing and packaging costs. Management noted that the weight of each bottle sold on e-commerce is around 350-400 grams.

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