Apar Industries Limited — Q1 FY26 earnings call

Call held 29 Jul 2025

Management summary

Apar Industries delivered a strong Q1 FY26 performance, with significant revenue and profit growth across its core divisions. Domestic demand, particularly in Conductors and Cables, was a key driver, offsetting some slowdown in oil exports due to project delays. The company is actively managing uncertainties around US tariffs and investing in capacity expansion, with a positive outlook for the medium to long term in the energy sector.

Highlights

  • Revenue of ₹5,104 crores, up 27.3% YoY, driven by domestic growth.

  • EBITDA of ₹501 crores, up 27% YoY, with a margin of 9.8%.

  • PAT of ₹263 crores, up 30% YoY, achieving a 5.2% margin.

  • Conductor Division revenues grew 43.9% YoY, securing new orders worth ₹3,135 crores.

  • Cable Segment revenues increased 36.3% YoY to ₹1,419 crores, with US revenues surging 136% YoY.

  • Oil Business volumes rose 8.1% YoY, despite flat revenues due to lower crude prices.

  • Q1 CAPEX incurred was ₹150 crores, with an additional ₹350 crores expected in the next few months.

  • Current order book stands at ₹7,779 crores for Conductors and ₹1,653 crores for Cables.

Concerns

  • Geopolitical Tensions and US Tariff Uncertainty

Key financials

  1. Revenue ₹5,104 Cr +27.3%YoY
  2. EBITDA ₹501 Cr +27%YoY
  3. EBITDA Margin 9.8%
  4. PAT ₹263 Cr +30%YoY
  5. PAT Margin 5.2%

What they filed

Q1 FY27: revenue up 29.1%, net profit up 77.6% against the same quarter last year.

₹ Cr · quarterly
Line itemQ2 FY25Q3 FY25Q4 FY25Q1 FY26Q2 FY26Q3 FY26Q4 FY26Q1 FY27
Revenue4,645 4,716 5,210 5,104 5,715 +23%5,480 +16%6,603 +27%6,591 +29%
EBITDA357 356 455 452 465 +30%452 +27%496 +9%758 +68%
Net profit194 175 250 263 252 +30%209 +19%253 +1%467 +78%
How to read this

₹ crore, as filed. The percentage beside a figure is the change against the same quarter a year earlier — never the quarter before, which would make every seasonal business look like it collapses and booms each year.

Segment breakdown

SegmentRevenue GrowthVolume GrowthExport Mix
Conductor Division0.439 yoy_pct0.18 yoy_pct
Oil Business0 yoy_pct0.081 yoy_pct36.7%
Cable Segment0.363 yoy_pct41.3%

Order book

high confidence

Total value

₹9,432 Cr

as of 2025-06-30 quantified

Inflow this quarter

₹3,135 Cr

Composition

Mix 2 segments
  • Conductor Division 82.5%
  • Cable Segment 17.5%

Share of order book by segment

Cancellations & deferrals

  • deferred: Transformer oil projects in Saudi Arabia, South Africa, and Australia got delayed, pushing out execution.
  • deferred: US clients are slowing orders for cables due to uncertainty regarding landed costs amidst tariff discussions.
The order book remains strong across divisions, with significant new orders in conductors. However, execution for some oil export projects has been pushed out, and cable order flow from the US is cautious pending tariff clarity.

Source: Prepared remarks

Capital allocation

high confidence
  • Capex ₹150 Cr this quarter · ₹1,300 Cr (FY26) planned Primarily internal accruals, with initial payments for equipment.
    • Capacity expansion for conductor division ₹300 Cr
    • Capacity expansion for various products in conductor division ₹400 Cr
    we are continuing with our planned CAPEX spending of about Rs.1300 crores. So, far, we have incurred Rs. 150 crores of CAPEX in Q1 and we additionally expect, based on the orders that have been placed, about Rs.350 crores to be spent in the next few months, within the quarter maybe running up to the month of October. This will enable us to be prepared for the future and tap the various opportunities that come by. ... as part of the Rs. 1,300 crores, there is almost Rs. 400 crores, Rs. 300 and odd crores into expanding the conductor, various products that are in that division.

Guidance & targets

Profitability

  • Conductor Division EBITDA per metric ton Profitability · ongoing · High confidence 30,000 plus tailwinds
    So, we continue with the same guidance, 30,000 plus tailwinds and the tailwinds will depend on the use of premium mix and non-premium mix on the various metals involved, the geography mix, the kind of products which are there.

    — Ramesh Iyer

Volume

  • Conductor Division Volume Growth Volume · annual basis · High confidence 10%
    We are sticking to the same number, 10% on an annual basis.

    — Ramesh Iyer

Revenue

  • Cable Segment Value Growth Revenue · ongoing · High confidence 25%
    Yes, we are still guiding 25% value growth in the cables. ... Overall, we feel that for the blended division, 25% value growth should be something that we can guide for.

    — Ramesh Iyer

Capacity

  • Transmission Lines Addition Capacity · full year FY26 · High confidence 24,400 circuit kilometers
    So, in the full year FY'26, the planned addition of transmission lines stands at 24,400 circuit kilometers, which is planned to be 2.5 times what it was in FY'25.

    — Kushal Desai

Capex

  • Total CAPEX Spending Capex · by June 2026 · High confidence 1,300 crores
    we are continuing with our planned CAPEX spending of about Rs.1300 crores.

    — Kushal Desai

What to watch in Q2 FY26

US Tariff Policy Clarity

Next few weeks/months
Current Uncertain, with reciprocal tariffs and 50% Section 232 tariffs on raw materials.
Target Clear, settled import duty structure for Indian products in the US market.

Why it matters

Resolution of tariff uncertainty is crucial for export competitiveness, US order flow, and strategic decisions regarding US manufacturing capacity.

I think in the course of the next few days, I think there should be more clarity on this particular front.

Risks & concerns

  • Geopolitical Tensions and US Tariff Uncertainty

    high

    The current US administration's tariff policies, including absolute tariffs on basic materials and reciprocal tariffs, create significant short-term confusion and uncertainty for export markets and potential US manufacturing.

    Management acknowledged

  • Subsidized Chinese Exports

    medium

    Subsidized exports from China (8-12% subsidy) continue to create headwinds and reduce success ratios in non-US export markets for cables.

    Management acknowledged

  • Domestic Transmission Line Execution Delays

    medium

    Transmission line additions in Q1 FY26 were significantly below target (17% vs 25% expected) due to early monsoons, right-of-way issues, and delays in obtaining clearances.

    Management acknowledged

  • Unclear Landed Costs for US Cable Clients

    medium

    US clients are slowing down orders for cables due to uncertainty regarding the final import duty structure, impacting order flow.

    Management acknowledged

  • Project Delays in Oil Export Markets

    low

    Transformer oil projects in key markets like Saudi Arabia, South Africa, and Australia have been delayed, pushing out execution and temporarily impacting export mix.

    Management acknowledged

Q&A highlights

7 direct
Sustainability of Conductor Division EBITDA per metric ton Direct
So, we continue with the same guidance, 30,000 plus tailwinds and the tailwinds will depend on the use of premium mix and non-premium mix on the various metals involved, the geography mix, the kind of products which are there. Comprehensive mix of that will determine the EBITDA for the quarter.

Clarifies that while current realization is high, the long-term guidance remains consistent, with actual performance influenced by a dynamic mix of factors.

Asked by Vidit Trivedi

Impact of US tariffs on raw materials and competitive landscape Direct
The tariff in the US, there is one which is a reciprocal tariff. However, the basic materials, which is steel, aluminum, copper and a few others are falling under a completely separate classification called Section 232, which are products of strategic nature to the government of the United States. There, the tariff is an absolute tariff. Currently, for all of these three items, that is steel, aluminum and copper, it is at 50%.

Provides crucial detail on the complex US tariff structure, distinguishing reciprocal tariffs from absolute Section 232 tariffs on raw materials, which significantly impacts manufacturing costs and strategic decisions.

Asked by Nitin Arora

Reasons for strong cable export growth to US and margin maintenance Direct
A larger portion has gone to the US market. Part of it was, as I mentioned in my opening remarks, to try to pick up a tariff where it had been declared at that 10%. There has been some impact that has happened because in some contracts, the customer has paid the higher tariff, the 10% reciprocal tariff. In some cases, we have had to negotiate and compromise with the client and make sure that all of this product has gone through.

Explains that the surge in US cable exports was partly due to pre-buying ahead of tariff changes, involving complex negotiations and freight costs, which influenced margins rather than a fundamental shift in business economics.

Asked by Amit Anwani

Risk mitigation strategy for new contracts regarding tariffs Direct
Tariff today is coming as a line item. So, it comes with a straightforward assumption today saying that, okay, the tariff at the moment that we priced it like this, whatever changes happen is not to APAR's account, it will be to the client's account. And if the client is not willing to accept that, then we are actually not taking on the business and we are just sitting it out.

Reveals the company's proactive strategy to de-risk new orders by making tariffs a client responsibility, indicating a cautious approach in an uncertain trade environment.

Asked by Nikhil

Differences in challenges and geographic focus between oil and conductor businesses Direct
No, so the market segment, the geographic mix is very different for our transformer oil business compared to what we do on conductor and cables. In conductor and cables, both of their largest market outside India is the America. ... If you look at our transformer oil business, we are very strong in Asia, all across Asia, right, including Australia. We have a very strong position in South Africa. We have a strong position in Turkey. And we are the largest in the GCC.

Clarifies that the oil business operates with a distinct geographic footprint and faces different market dynamics and project-related delays compared to the conductor and cable segments.

Asked by Himanshu Upadhyay

Plans for local manufacturing capacity in the US Partial
So, we have been doing our homework on it. However, at this stage, until this whole tariff thing becomes clear, because suddenly there was this increase from 25% to 50% for import of aluminum, ingots, copper rods, all these things. So, that would obviously have a material impact if you were to manufacture locally in the United States. So, we have been doing our homework quietly in terms of figuring out what could be the possibilities there. But we haven't taken a call. I think we need more clarity before a commitment can be made.

Indicates that while local US manufacturing is being explored, the decision is on hold due to the volatile and unclear raw material tariff situation, highlighting a key strategic uncertainty.

Asked by Sagar Dhawan

Conductor capacity utilization and expansion plans Direct
We are pretty much for most of the products on the conductor side, we are running at capacity. However, you know, as part of the Rs. 1,300 crores, there is almost Rs. 400 crores, Rs. 300 and odd crores into expanding the conductor, various products that are in that division. ... Equipment are starting to come in and getting installed, but a chunk of them are coming actually in Q3 and early Q4.

Confirms high capacity utilization in conductors and details the timeline for new capacity coming online, which is crucial for meeting strong demand and sustaining growth.

Asked by Sagar Dhawan

Contribution and competition in the reconductoring business Direct
There are players who are getting into the business. The largest is clearly ourselves. Then after that, you have Sterlite Power and following that is JSK. But the way we do the business is not just supplying the conductor but we also do the entire solution for the utility. So, it's one thing to produce a conductor. It's another thing to be able to provide that solution.

Provides insight into the competitive landscape of the reconductoring market and highlights Apar's strategic advantage in offering end-to-end solutions rather than just product supply.

Asked by Amit Anwani

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Detailed narrative

Strong Q1 FY26 Performance Driven by Domestic Demand

Apar Industries commenced FY26 with robust financial results, reporting a 27.3% year-on-year increase in revenue to ₹5,104 crores. This strong top-line growth translated into a 27% rise in EBITDA to ₹501 crores, maintaining a healthy margin of 9.8%. Profit After Tax (PAT) also saw a significant 30% year-on-year jump to ₹263 crores, with a PAT margin of 5.2%, primarily propelled by strong domestic business performance.

Conductor Division's Exceptional Growth and Order Inflow

The Conductor Division was a key growth driver, with revenues soaring by 43.9% year-on-year, supported by an approximate 18% volume growth. The division's premium product mix contributed 43.5% to its sales, up from 37.1% last year, and US revenues alone grew by 83% over Q1 FY25. New orders totaling ₹3,135 crores were secured this quarter, bringing the current order book for the division to a strong ₹7,779 crores, with an EBITDA of ₹43,688 per metric ton.

Cable Segment's Export Surge and Strategic Tariff Management

The Cable Segment posted a 36.3% year-on-year revenue growth, reaching ₹1,419 crores, largely due to a strong export performance where US revenues surged by 136% year-on-year. Exports now account for 41.3% of the segment's mix. EBITDA for the segment grew 32.2% to ₹142 crores, maintaining a margin of approximately 10%. For new contracts, Apar is strategically pricing tariffs as a line item, with changes borne by the client, to mitigate risk from uncertain US import duties.

Oil Business Volume Expansion Amidst Price Headwinds

Despite flat revenues year-on-year, primarily attributed to lower average prices of crude gas oil and derivatives, the Oil Business achieved an 8.1% year-on-year volume growth. Domestic transformer oil volumes increased by approximately 20%, while automotive oil and industrial lubricants also grew by 8.4% and 15.9% respectively. The export mix temporarily declined to 36.7% from 45% last year due to project delays in key markets like Saudi Arabia, South Africa, and Australia, but is expected to reverse as execution picks up.

Domestic Transmission and Renewable Energy Infrastructure Momentum

India's renewable energy sector demonstrated robust growth, with 7.3 gigawatts of renewable energy added in June 2025 alone. However, transmission line additions in Q1 FY26 were significantly below target, achieving only 1,031 circuit kilometers (17% of the planned 6,000 km) due to early monsoons and right-of-way issues. Management anticipates a strong pent-up demand for conductors and cables as these issues are resolved, with a full-year target of 24,400 circuit kilometers for FY26.

Strategic CAPEX for Capacity Expansion and Future Readiness

Apar Industries is executing a planned CAPEX of ₹1,300 crores by June 2026, with ₹150 crores already incurred in Q1 FY26 and an additional ₹350 crores expected to be spent by October. A significant portion of this investment, approximately ₹300-400 crores, is allocated for expanding conductor capacity. New conductor capacity is anticipated to come online in Q3 and early Q4, addressing the current full utilization of most conductor product lines and preparing for future opportunities.

Navigating US Tariff Uncertainties and Competitive Landscape

The company acknowledges geopolitical tensions and US tariff uncertainties as its biggest worry, particularly the 50% Section 232 tariffs on basic materials like aluminum and copper, which could impact local US manufacturing. While India's reciprocal tariffs are expected to be competitive, subsidized Chinese exports (8-12%) continue to pose headwinds in non-US markets. Apar is actively monitoring the situation, expecting more clarity soon, and remains flexible in its product mix to adapt to evolving trade dynamics.

Oil Storage and Logistics Optimization

Apar is undertaking initiatives to consolidate its oil storage operations, moving away from rented third-party tanks. This strategic move is justified by the payback from external storage cost savings and aims to improve the quality of base oil storage. Furthermore, this consolidation opens up the possibility of exporting products in bulk, a new avenue for the oil business that could enhance efficiency and market reach.

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