Avantel Limited — Q4 FY22 earnings call

Call held 30 May 2022

Management summary

Avantel Limited reported a strong FY22, achieving a record ₹100 crore turnover and good profits. The company outlined ambitious growth plans, focusing on expanding its defence electronics portfolio, developing small satellites, and entering the medical devices sector. Management provided clear guidance on order book conversion, future revenue growth, and strategic initiatives, including plans for NSE listing by 2024, while acknowledging and addressing supply chain challenges.

Highlights

  • Achieved a turnover of ₹100 crores for the first time in FY22.

  • Reported a very good profit for FY22.

  • Current pending order book stands at approximately ₹240 crores.

  • Anticipates FY23 revenue of ₹130-140 crores, with an additional ₹60-70 crores in new orders.

  • Projects a 25% increase in top line and 15-20% increase in bottom line for FY23.

  • Aims for NSE listing by 2024, with equity base increasing to ₹16 crores post-bonus to meet eligibility criteria.

  • Investing approximately ₹25 crores in capex over the next 1.5 years for new facilities, funded from reserves.

  • New facilities for small satellites, radars, and medical devices expected to be operational by November/December 2023.

Concerns

  • Supply Chain Disruptions (Semiconductors, Connectors)

Key financials

  1. Revenue ₹100 Cr
  2. Net Worth ₹75 Cr
  3. Imported Raw Material Cost ₹41 Cr
  4. Change in Inventories ₹-4 Cr
  5. Reserves Utilization ₹12,16,24,790

What they filed

Q1 FY27: revenue up 35.7%, net profit up 66.9% against the same quarter last year.

₹ Cr · quarterly
Line itemQ2 FY25Q3 FY25Q4 FY25Q1 FY26Q2 FY26Q3 FY26Q4 FY26Q1 FY27
Revenue77 71 49 52 55 −28%52 −27%64 +30%70 +36%
EBITDA35 32 12 10 11 −67%13 −61%14 +17%17 +67%
Net profit23 20 6 3 4 −81%3 −86%5 −22%5 +67%
How to read this

₹ crore, as filed. The percentage beside a figure is the change against the same quarter a year earlier — never the quarter before, which would make every seasonal business look like it collapses and booms each year.

Guidance & targets

Revenue

  • Annual Turnover Revenue · FY23 · Medium confidence 130-140 crores
    So, 240 crores, and we are likely to do maybe 130-140 crores this year

    — Dr. Abburi Vidyasagar

Order Inflow

  • New Orders Order Inflow · FY23 · Medium confidence 60-70 crores
    and we are expecting some 60-70 crores orders during this financial year

    — Dr. Abburi Vidyasagar

Order Book

  • Orders in Hand for Next Year Execution Order Book · by end of FY23 (for FY24 execution) · Medium confidence 160-170 crores
    So, for another year also, '23-'24 also, we should have by the end of this year, 160-170 crores in orders in hand to be executed next year.

    — Dr. Abburi Vidyasagar

Revenue Growth

  • Top Line Growth Revenue Growth · FY23 · High confidence 25%
    about 25% is ensured

    — Dr. Abburi Vidyasagar

Profitability Growth

  • Bottom Line Growth Profitability Growth · FY23 · Medium confidence 15 to 20%
    increase in profitability of 15 to 20% is also very likely.

    — Dr. Abburi Vidyasagar

Exchange Listing

  • NSE Listing Exchange Listing · by 2024 · High confidence 2024
    So by 2024 we get the eligibility for NSE

    — Dr. Abburi Vidyasagar

Capital Structure

  • Equity Base Capital Structure · post-bonus · High confidence 16 crores
    our equity base will increase to 16 crores

    — Dr. Abburi Vidyasagar

Project Completion

  • Lockheed Martin 2M USD Order Project Completion · by March 2023 · High confidence 2 million dollars
    Somebody was asking about Lockheed Martin order and we are going to complete it this year itself. By March, will complete that 2-million dollars.

    — Dr. Abburi Vidyasagar

  • Lockheed Martin 1.3M USD Production Order Project Completion · Q1 FY24 · High confidence 1.3 million
    that's a production order, that also maybe this year, maximum first quarter next year, we'll be completing that order.

    — Dr. Abburi Vidyasagar

  • 125 HF Systems Order Project Completion · by August end 2022 · High confidence complete the order
    maximum by August end we want to complete the order of 125 systems.

    — Dr. Abburi Vidyasagar

  • Indian Railways 6300 Locomotive Order Project Completion · one and a half years from now · High confidence complete
    So this project will take one and a half years to complete from now

    — Dr. Abburi Vidyasagar

New Business Development

  • Medical Products Certification New Business Development · from now · Medium confidence at least nine months
    Regarding Imeds, it takes time. It takes about at least nine months for us to really come out with certified medical products.

    — Dr. Abburi Vidyasagar

  • Small Satellites Maturity New Business Development · to mature and stabilise · Medium confidence a couple of years
    it may take a couple of years for us to mature and stabilise

    — Dr. Abburi Vidyasagar

Facility Operationalization

  • New Facility (Radar, Small Satellites, Medical) Facility Operationalization · by November or December 2023 · High confidence operational
    this facility should be operational by November or December 2023.

    — Dr. Abburi Vidyasagar

Capex

  • New Capacity Investment Capex · next one and a half years · High confidence 25 crore
    It will be about 25 crore and we would like to fund it from reserves, the 25 crores, for the next one and a half years.

    — Dr. Abburi Vidyasagar

Risks & concerns

  • Supply Chain Disruptions (Semiconductors, Connectors)

    high

    Supply chain disruptions, particularly for semiconductors and connectors, are a significant concern, with management actively working on design changes and advance procurement to mitigate risks.

    Management acknowledged

  • Working Capital Management (High Debtors)

    medium

    High debtor levels are attributed to standard defence procurement conditions, where 25% of payment is received only after installation and commissioning, typically 9-12 months post-supply.

    Management acknowledged

  • New Subsidiary (Imeds) is Loss-Making

    medium

    The recently acquired medical devices subsidiary, Imeds, currently has negative reserves and surplus, and it will take at least nine months to bring certified medical products to market.

    Analyst acknowledged

  • Geographical Concentration of Orders

    low

    The majority of orders are from the domestic market, primarily from Bharat Electronics and the Indian Navy, prompting management to focus on expanding product spectrum for broader defence sector opportunities.

    Analyst acknowledged

Q&A highlights

3 direct
Future Growth Strategy, Diversification, and Order Book Execution Direct
Firstly, we noticed that the majority of our orders from domestic market and mainly from Bharat Electronics and Indian Navy. So, going forward, how does the management think about the geographical risk in our order book? And so are we looking to add more orders from outside India or more private players? ... I think the current order book is roughly 260 to 270-odd crores. So, is this understanding correct? And can you give a broad timeline for this order book in terms of execution?

This question consolidates several critical aspects of the company's future: market diversification, order book size, and execution timelines, which are key indicators for capital goods sector investors.

Asked by Ayush Mittal

NSE Listing and Capital Structure (Bonus vs. Split) Direct
Coming to this bonus shares, somebody is asking that why not split, why bonus and all, and somebody asked about NSE listing. If we want to go for NSE listing in 2024, we should have net worth of 75 crores for three consecutive years. So, that's why we, instead of split, we preferred bonus, because our equity base will increase to 16 crores, and we will become eligible for listing in NSE.

Shareholders are keen on liquidity and market visibility. The question directly addresses the rationale behind the bonus issue over a stock split and the concrete steps and timelines for NSE listing, which can significantly impact shareholder value.

Asked by Kamal Kishore Jhavar / Kamal Sodhi

Indian Railways Project Details and AMC Revenue Direct
Sir, reference to Chairman Sir, railway order jo 6300 locomotive का received हुआ अपने को, that first part was supplied by BEL earlier and there are almost 15,000 something locomotive in Indian Railways. So, Sir, मेरा 2 questions हैं. की जो BEL ने system दिया है वो अपने system से at par है की नहीं? ... मेरा जो एक question था, AMC के regarding कुच्छ बता सकते हैं, sir? ... AMC will be there for Railways after completion of the complete commissioning of the network. After supply, we have to commission the network, after that there will be AMC, yes.

The Indian Railways order is a significant new revenue stream. This question delves into the competitive advantage of Avantel's system over existing ones and the potential for recurring AMC revenue, providing insight into the long-term value of this project.

Asked by Vipul Nagindas Dhami

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Detailed narrative

Strong FY22 Performance and Growth Outlook

Avantel Limited achieved a record turnover of ₹100 crores for the first time in FY22, alongside reporting a 'very good profit.' The company projects continued robust growth, targeting ₹130-140 crores in revenue for FY23, with an additional ₹60-70 crores in new orders. Management anticipates a 25% increase in top line and a 15-20% increase in bottom line for the upcoming financial year, driven by a strong order book and strategic expansion.

Strategic Diversification into Small Satellites and Medical Devices

The company is actively diversifying its product spectrum, focusing on small software defence radios and small satellites, primarily for the Indian market with global aspirations. A new facility for radar and small satellites is planned on four acres in Electronic City, Hyderabad, expected to be operational by November or December 2023. Additionally, Avantel is entering the medical devices sector through its subsidiary Imeds, with certified products anticipated within nine months and the facility also operational by late 2023.

Defence Sector Focus and Indigenous Content Push

Avantel is strategically positioned to benefit from India's new Defence Procurement Policy, emphasizing Indigenous Design, Development, and Manufacturing (IDDM). The company aims for 60-70% indigenous content in its products, significantly exceeding the mandatory 50%. This focus is expected to create substantial growth opportunities by partnering with global leaders and contributing to India's self-reliance in defence manufacturing, leveraging initiatives like Atmanirbhar Bharat.

Robust Order Book and Execution Timelines

The current pending order book stands at approximately ₹240 crores, providing strong revenue visibility. For the Indian Railways order of 6300 locomotives, 50% is slated for execution in FY23 and the remaining 50% in FY24, with the entire project expected to be completed within one and a half years. The order for 125 HF systems is targeted for completion by August end 2022, with 71 units already delivered.

Capital Structure Enhancement and NSE Listing Plans

To improve liquidity for shareholders and facilitate future growth, Avantel issued bonus shares, which will increase its equity base to ₹16 crores. This move is a strategic step towards meeting the eligibility criteria for listing on the National Stock Exchange (NSE) by 2024, which requires a net worth of ₹75 crores for three consecutive years and a minimum equity of ₹10 crores. The company's net worth has already surpassed ₹75 crores.

Capex and Funding Strategy

Avantel plans a capital expenditure of approximately ₹25 crores over the next one and a half years to establish new capacities, primarily for its small satellite and radar initiatives, and to a lesser extent for medical devices. This investment will be funded entirely from the company's existing reserves, demonstrating a prudent financial approach to support its expansion plans without external debt.

Addressing Supply Chain and Working Capital Challenges

Management acknowledged supply chain disruptions, particularly for semiconductors and connectors, as a significant concern, actively mitigating risks through design changes and advance procurement. High debtor levels were explained by defence procurement terms, where 25% of payment is received only after installation and commissioning, typically taking 9-12 months post-supply. The company emphasized its commitment to integrity and transparency in financial reporting.

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