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    Birlasoft Ltd

    BSOFT
    Information Technology·11 Feb 2025
    Management Summary

    Birlasoft reported a challenging Q3 FY25 with constant currency revenue degrowth of 1.1% QoQ, impacted by higher furloughs and project ramp-downs. Despite these headwinds and recent wage hikes, the company maintained a 12% EBITDA margin and demonstrated strong cash generation with $226 million in TCV signings. Management acknowledged predictability issues in FY25 but expressed confidence in improving predictability and returning to growth in FY26 through strategic investments and new deal closures, including a potential new logo in Europe.

    Highlights

    5
    • Deal signings during the quarter saw a sharp increase, delivering $226 million in TCV, making it the best quarter for deal signings in the current fiscal.

    • EBITDA margin was maintained at 12% sequentially, despite absorbing compensation hikes effective October 1, 2024.

    • Cash and balances stood at $240 million, an 8.2% QoQ and 18.3% YoY increase, reflecting continued strong cash generation.

    • Operating cash flow for Q3 was $29.9 million, representing 155% of EBITDA, with DSO at 53 days.

    • BFSI vertical grew 1.8% QoQ, and Digital & Data business grew 2.4% QoQ, contributing 57% to overall revenues.

    Concerns

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    • Revenue experienced a constant currency degrowth of 0.1% YoY and 1.1% QoQ, and a rupee decline of 0.4% QoQ.

    • Higher-than-usual furloughs, extending into January 2025, resulted in a softer revenue performance and will cause some softness in Q4.

    • Project ramp-downs were observed in healthcare and manufacturing, having a near-term impact on revenues.

    • PAT stood at $13.8 million, which is 9.3% lower QoQ, primarily due to lower Other Income from depreciated non-dollar currencies.

    • The ERP business witnessed a sequential decline of 5.7% and has underperformed for the last two quarters.

    What Changed2

    vs Q4 FY25

    Guidance items7 → 5 (-2)Risks discussed6 → 7 (+1)

    Key financials

    Single quarter

    07 metrics
    1. 01Revenue160.8 Mn-0.1%YoY
    2. 02Revenue13,627 Mn+1.5%YoY
    3. 03EBITDA19.3 Mn-2%QoQ
    4. 04EBITDA Margin12%
    5. 05PAT13.8 Mn-9.3%QoQ

    Segment breakdown

    BFSI
    1.8% Revenue Growth
    Digital & Data
    2.4% Revenue Growth57.0% Share of Revenue
    ERP
    -5.7% Revenue Decline
    List

    Order Book

    high confidence

    Inflow this qtr

    USD 226 million

    Pipeline

    deal pipeline tcv

    Healthy deal pipeline, expecting good TCV performance in Q4, including a potential large deal and a new logo in Europe.

    Cancellations / Deferrals

    • deferred:Higher-than-usual furloughs, with some extending into January, impacting Q3 and Q4 revenue performance.
    • descoped:Some amount of project ramp downs in healthcare and manufacturing, having a near-term impact on revenues.

    "Q3 saw the best deal signings this fiscal at $226 million TCV, with expectations for good TCV performance in Q4, including a new logo in Europe. However, the current order book is not sufficient for double-digit growth."

    Source:
    Prepared remarks

    Capital allocation

    1
    high confidence
    CategoryHeadline
    Liquidity

    Cash USD 240 million

    Cash and balances increased by 8.2% QoQ and 18.3% YoY, driven by strong cash generation, resulting in a robust balance sheet.

    Guidance & targets

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    CategoryTargetPriority
    Profitability
    EBITDA Margin
    improve margins quarter-over-quarter
    Medium
    Revenue
    Furlough Impact
    half as much as Q3
    High
    Revenue
    FY26 Growth
    get the company back to growth
    Medium
    Predictability
    Predictability of Results
    far better
    Medium
    Order Book
    Medium-sized Deals Closure
    at least a couple of medium-sized deals
    Medium

    Q4 TCV Performance

    next quarter (Q4 FY25)
    Current$226 million in Q3
    TargetGood TCV performance

    Why it matters

    TCV is a leading indicator for future revenue growth, and management expects a strong Q4.

    Looking at the conversations that we are currently having with our clients and including one potential large deal and a new logo in Europe, we also expect a good TCV performance in Q4 as well.

    How to verify

    order_book.inflow_this_quarter

    Risks & concerns

    7
    RiskSeverity

    Higher-than-usual furloughs extending into Q4

    Furloughs were higher than usual in Q3 and are extending into January, impacting Q4 revenue performance, though Q4 impact is expected to be half of Q3.Management acknowledged

    high

    Project ramp-downs in healthcare and manufacturing

    Some project ramp-downs occurred in Q3, particularly in healthcare and manufacturing, which will have a near-term impact on revenues.Management acknowledged

    medium

    Unchanged demand environment and 'hold & wait' approach from clients

    The demand environment has not materially changed, with clients largely adopting a 'hold & wait' approach, especially in verticals like Life Sciences.Management acknowledged

    medium

    Decline in predictability of results in FY25

    The company's predictability has suffered in FY25 due to client-specific performance issues and late-arriving furloughs.Management acknowledged

    high

    Underperformance of ERP business

    The ERP business has not performed well for the last two quarters, declining 5.7% QoQ in Q3.Management acknowledged

    medium

    Potential future pricing pressures

    While not currently observed, pricing pressures are a potential future risk, especially in competitive deal environments.Management acknowledged

    low

    Unfavorable business mix impacting margins

    If the Infrastructure business continues to outperform Applications, it could lead to a margin impact in the medium term.Management acknowledged

    low

    Q&A highlights

    8

    “So Shradha, again, we don't give a guidance usually. Our job will be to execute for the quarter. I can only tell you that while there are going to be furloughs and there are going to be some amount of ramp downs, equally, we have won $226 million worth of deals. So, part of it, we will try and mitigate.”

    Analyst sought specific Q4 revenue guidance given headwinds, but management reiterated focus on mitigation without providing numbers.

    asked by Shradha Agrawal

    3 min read8 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

    01

    Q3 FY25 Performance Overview

    Birlasoft reported a consolidated revenue of $160.8 million for Q3 FY25, reflecting a constant currency degrowth of 0.1% year-on-year and 1.1% quarter-on-quarter. In rupee terms, revenue was ₹13,627 million, showing a 1.5% YoY growth but a slight QoQ decline of 0.4%. The EBITDA margin stood at 12%, nearly flat sequentially, despite absorbing the impact of compensation hikes effective from October 1, 2024. PAT for the quarter was $13.8 million, a 9.3% QoQ decrease primarily due to lower other income.

    02

    Revenue Headwinds: Furloughs & Project Ramp-downs

    The quarter's performance was significantly impacted by higher-than-usual furloughs, which extended into January 2025, leading to a softer revenue outcome. Management noted that the Q4 furlough impact is expected to be half of Q3's. Additionally, some project ramp-downs were observed in healthcare and manufacturing verticals, contributing to near-term revenue pressure. These factors, combined with an unchanged demand environment, posed challenges to growth.

    03

    Margin Resilience & Wage Hike Impact

    Despite the organization-wide wage increase effective October 1, 2024, Birlasoft successfully maintained its EBITDA margin at 12%. This resilience was attributed to exchange rate benefits from a strong dollar and operational savings. Management expressed commitment to sustaining and improving its margin profile, although the path to achieving higher aspirations might be slower due to ongoing Q4 headwinds.

    04

    Strong Cash Generation & Balance Sheet

    The company demonstrated robust cash generation, with cash and balances reaching $240 million by the end of Q3, an increase of 8.2% QoQ and 18.3% YoY. Operating cash flow for the quarter was $29.9 million, representing 155% of EBITDA. The Days Sales Outstanding (DSO) improved to 53 days, which is among the best in the industry, highlighting efficient collections and a healthy balance sheet.

    05

    Deal Wins & Pipeline Health

    Birlasoft reported strong deal signings in Q3 FY25, securing $226 million in Total Contract Value (TCV), marking it the best quarter for deal signings in the current fiscal year. While a significant portion came from renewals, net new deals were also observed. The company anticipates good TCV performance in Q4, driven by ongoing client conversations and the potential closure of a 'reasonable sized' deal with a new logo in Europe, particularly in the manufacturing space.

    06

    Vertical Performance & Outlook

    The BFSI vertical showed resilience with a 1.8% QoQ growth, and the Digital & Data business grew 2.4% QoQ, contributing 57% to overall revenues. However, the ERP business declined 5.7% QoQ and has underperformed for two consecutive quarters, prompting new leadership appointments. Healthcare (Life Sciences) has been impacted by client-specific headwinds for four quarters, but management is strengthening the team and expects a comeback. E&U is projected to pick up, while Manufacturing is expected to remain soft for another couple of quarters.

    07

    Strategic Investments & GenAI Focus

    Birlasoft continues to invest in bridging capability gaps and scaling existing strengths, particularly in AI/GenAI, AI-driven quality assurance, Data, and Product & App Engineering. The company's GenAI Centre of Excellence and proprietary platform, Cogito, are accelerating GenAI-based solutions. New in-house applications like B-Hive (conversational bot) and Solución (ServiceNow integrated solution) are aimed at enhancing competitive advantage and capitalizing on improved demand conditions.

    08

    Predictability Challenges & Future Outlook

    Management acknowledged that predictability has suffered in FY25 due to external factors like client performance and late furloughs. To address this, the company is focusing on expanding its client base with new logos, deepening engagement with top 20-25 clients, and leveraging past capability investments. While the current order book is insufficient for double-digit growth, management is confident that these corrective actions will improve predictability and lead to a better growth trajectory in FY26.

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