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    Carborundum Uni.

    CARBORUNIV
    Capital Goods·14 Feb 2025
    Management Summary

    Carborundum Universal Limited reported mixed results for Q3 FY25, with strong standalone sales growth offset by a significant impact from US sanctions on its Russian subsidiary, VAW, leading to substantial provisioning. Consolidated profitability declined due to this exceptional item and margin pressures across segments, prompting a downward revision in full-year sales and PAT guidance. The company is focusing on domestic operations for VAW and addressing margin challenges in other segments.

    Highlights

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    • Consolidated Q3 sales reached INR 1,241 crores, marking a 9.8% year-on-year growth.

    • Consolidated PBIT for Q3 was INR 141 crores, a 10.8% decrease compared to Q3 FY24.

    • Consolidated PAT (without exceptional items) remained flat at INR 111 crores in Q3 FY25.

    • Standalone Q3 sales hit a record high of INR 728 crores, growing 15% YoY.

    • US sanctions on the Russian subsidiary VAW led to a RUB 1.59 billion (INR 104 crores pre-tax) provisioning, impacting Q3 PAT which fell to INR 35 crores.

    • FY25 consolidated sales guidance revised downwards to INR 4,800-5,000 crores from INR 5,100-5,200 crores.

    • FY25 PAT guidance (without exceptional items) set at around INR 450 crores.

    • Consolidated PBIT margin declined to 11.3% in Q3 FY25 from 14% in Q3 FY24, primarily due to lower Abrasives PBIT and unallocable expenses.

    Concerns

    1
    • US Sanctions on VAW (Russian Subsidiary)

    What Changed2

    vs Q4 FY25

    Guidance items11 → 18 (+7)Risks discussed4 → 5 (+1)

    Key financials

    Single quarter

    06 metrics
    1. 01Consolidated Sales₹1,241 Cr+9.8%YoY
    2. 02Consolidated PBIT₹141 Cr-10.8%YoY
    3. 03Consolidated PBIT Margin11.3%
    4. 04Consolidated PAT (ex-exceptional)₹111 Cr0%YoY
    5. 05Consolidated PAT (inc-exceptional)₹35 Cr

    Segment breakdown

    • Abrasives (Consolidated)₹526 Cr41.8%
    • Electrominerals (Consolidated)₹416 Cr33.1%
    • Ceramics (Consolidated)₹315 Cr25.1%
    Donut· Share of Sales

    Order Book

    low confidence

    "Management noted that Abrasives demand is holding on, with industrial activity showing pressure but increased infrastructure spending expected to generate demand. For Ceramics, customers are ready for expansion projects."

    Source:
    Q&A

    Capital allocation

    3
    high confidence
    CategoryHeadline
    Capex

    ₹300 crores

    cut

    Debt

    Gross ₹109 crores

    M&A

    Silicon Carbide Products, Inc.

    acquisition · integrated

    Guidance & targets

    18
    CategoryTargetPriority
    Sales
    Consolidated Sales
    INR 4,800-5,000 crores
    High
    Sales
    Consolidated Abrasives Growth
    5%
    High
    Sales
    Abrasives India Growth
    6-7%
    High
    Sales
    RHODIUS Sales Growth
    6-7%
    High
    Sales
    AWUKO Sales Increase
    €1.3 million
    High
    Sales
    Consolidated Ceramic Segment Sales Growth
    10-12%
    High
    Sales
    Industrial Ceramics India Sales Growth
    10%
    High
    Sales
    Refractory Sales Growth
    8-9%
    High
    Sales
    Consolidated Electrominerals Sales Growth
    flat marginal improvement
    High
    Sales
    Standalone Electrominerals Sales Growth
    around 10%
    Medium
    Profitability
    Consolidated PAT (ex-exceptional)
    around INR 450 crores
    High
    Profitability
    RHODIUS Loss After Tax
    €1.9 million
    High
    Capex
    Total CAPEX
    INR 300 crores
    High
    Margin
    Consolidated PBIT Margin
    drop of 100-120 bps
    High
    Margin
    Consolidated Abrasives & Ceramic Margin
    drop by about 150 bps
    High
    Margin
    Consolidated Electrominerals Margin
    decrease by 100 bps
    High
    Debt
    Debt Status
    debt-free
    High
    Expenses
    Unallocable Expenses
    around INR 60 crores plus
    Medium

    VAW Operational Restructuring & Profitability

    next quarter
    CurrentVAW operating domestically, RUB 718 million Q3 PAT loss (with exceptional), RUB 479 million Q3 PAT (without exceptional)
    TargetStabilized domestic operations and sustained profitability without exceptional items

    Why it matters

    To assess the effectiveness of VAW's new domestic-only business model and its impact on overall consolidated profitability.

    So, as I said, the business is relooking at the model, and repositioning themselves the cost also accordingly, because you cannot afford to run the business at the same level with 100% business possible, whereas you are only doing domestic. So, that repositioning is parallelly happening, and they have to resize this operation accordingly. So, they are very much aware, and they are definitely on the job to do that. My own guess is that they should be able to reposition this in this quarter.

    How to verify

    key_financials.segment_breakdown[name='Electrominerals (Consolidated)'].metrics[label='VAW Q4 PAT (without exceptional)']

    Risks & concerns

    5
    RiskSeverity

    US Sanctions on VAW (Russian Subsidiary)

    VAW designated as 'Specially Designated National', blocking USD/EUR transactions, leading to RUB 1.59 billion (INR 104 crores pre-tax) provisioning and forcing VAW to operate only domestically.Management acknowledged

    high

    Consolidated PBIT Margin Compression

    Consolidated PBIT margin declined to 11.3% in Q3 FY25 from 14% in Q3 FY24, driven by lower Abrasives PBIT, higher unallocable expenses, and one-off issues in Ceramics subsidiaries.Management acknowledged

    medium

    Abrasives Segment Underperformance

    Abrasives PBIT degrew 43% YoY in Q3, with margins dropping to 5.4%, due to lower standalone performance, RHODIUS cost pressures, and AWUKO sales shortfall.Management acknowledged

    medium

    Electrominerals Margin Pressure

    Electrominerals YTD PBIT margin decreased to 14% from 16% YoY, mainly due to higher input costs (alumina price) and pricing pressures, exacerbated by competition from China.Management acknowledged

    medium

    Ceramics Subsidiary One-off Issues

    Ceramics margins impacted by one-off issues in Australia (inventory provisions, receivables, product mix) and America (freight absorption), which are not operational but affect profitability.Management acknowledged

    medium

    Q&A highlights

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    “So, Harshit, we said that we will not be able to sell and we will not be able to compensate. We will only be selling what we were selling domestically. And we are just looking 1 quarter at a time to see how this whole thing develops.”

    Analyst questioned the viability of VAW's domestic-only strategy post-sanctions, and management indicated a cautious, quarter-by-quarter approach without full compensation for lost exports.

    asked by Harshit Patel

    2 min read6 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

    01

    Q3 FY25 Consolidated Performance Overview

    Carborundum Universal Limited reported consolidated sales of INR 1,241 crores in Q3 FY25, representing a 9.8% year-on-year growth, primarily driven by strong performance in Ceramics and Electrominerals. However, consolidated PBIT saw a decline of 10.8% YoY to INR 141 crores, and the PBIT margin contracted to 11.3% from 14% in Q3 FY24. Consolidated PAT, including exceptional item📎s, was significantly impacted, falling to INR 35 crores, while PAT excluding exceptional item📎s remained flat at INR 111 crores.

    02

    Impact of US Sanctions on Russian Subsidiary (VAW)

    The company's Russian subsidiary, Volzhsky Abrasive Works (VAW), was designated as a 'Specially Designated National' by the US Department of State. This sanction blocks transactions in US dollars and euros, necessitating a RUB 1.59 billion (INR 104 crores pre-tax for CUMI) provisioning for foreign currency receivables and deposits. VAW, which previously exported 40-45% of its sales, will now focus solely on its domestic Russian market, leading to a revised outlook for its contribution.

    03

    Segmental Performance and Margin Pressures

    The Abrasives segment experienced a marginal sales degrowth of 0.4% YoY to INR 526 crores, with PBIT declining significantly by 43% to INR 28 crores, impacting its margin. Electrominerals sales grew 12.8% to INR 416 crores, and PBIT increased 34% to INR 67.5 crores, though YTD margins were down due to input cost and pricing pressures. The Ceramics segment showed robust sales growth of 29.6% to INR 315 crores, with PBIT growing 14% to INR 68 crores, but margins were affected by one-off📎 issues in Australian and American subsidiaries.

    04

    Revised Full-Year FY25 Guidance

    Management revised its full-year consolidated sales guidance downwards to INR 4,800-5,000 crores from the earlier INR 5,100-5,200 crores. The PAT guidance (without exceptional item📎s) was set at around INR 450 crores. CAPEX plans for FY25 were also adjusted to INR 300 crores from INR 350 crores. Segment-specific growth and margin targets were similarly revised downwards, reflecting the challenges from VAW and ongoing market dynamics.

    05

    Standalone Business Strength and Ceramics Project Progress

    The standalone business demonstrated resilience, achieving its highest quarterly sales of INR 728 crores, a 15% YoY increase. Standalone Ceramics sales grew 25% to INR 265 crores, driven by volume. The company confirmed that its Ceramics expansion projects, including those for armor and semiconductor applications, are on track and progressing as per schedule, with customer readiness aligning with project timelines, indicating future growth potential.

    06

    Capital Allocation and Efficiency

    Carborundum Universal Limited maintains a debt-free status at the standalone level, with consolidated debt at INR 109 crores and a low debt-to-equity ratio of 0.03. YTD CAPEX stood at INR 202 crores, with a revised full-year plan of INR 300 crores. However, the consolidated Return on Capital Employed (ROCE) on a YTD basis declined to 17% from 18.3% in the same period last year, primarily due to the performance of Abrasives and Ceramics subsidiaries.

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