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    Expleo Solutions

    EXPLEOSOL
    Information Technology·23 May 2025
    Management Summary

    Expleo Solutions reported a strong FY25 with 6.2% revenue growth and an 80 bps EBITDA margin expansion, driven by strategic focus on existing clients, US, and Middle East expansion, and significant AI investments. While Q4 saw a slight QoQ revenue dip and margin compression due to wage hikes, the company remains optimistic about FY26, expecting continued growth from BFSI, retail, defense, and AI-driven services, despite ongoing slowdowns in auto and aero sectors.

    Highlights

    5
    • FY25 Operating revenue grew 6.2% YoY to INR 10,248 million, driven by onsite opportunities in Middle East and US.

    • FY25 EBITDA margin expanded by 80 basis points to 16.2%, attributed to higher revenues, improved utilization, and controlled bench.

    • FY25 PAT increased by 0.8% to 9.8%, and EPS grew 14.2% to INR 66.52.

    • Strategic focus on existing customers, US, and Middle East yielded good results, with a new subsidiary operational in Saudi Arabia.

    • Significant investment in AI capabilities, with 60+ associates hired and 'expleo.ai' platform launched, already generating revenue from 4 accounts.

    Concerns

    4
    • Q4 FY25 operating revenue saw a 0.7% QoQ drop to INR 2,558 million, mainly due to project closures in the auto industry.

    • EBITDA margin in Q4 FY25 declined QoQ to 15.6% from 16.9% due to wage increments.

    • Engineering division revenues have declined by INR 10 crores over the past 3 years, with auto and aero industries facing continued slowdowns.

    • The company's client count declined to 201, as management is actively reducing low-revenue, low-margin accounts.

    What Changed2

    vs Q2 FY26

    Guidance items3 → 4 (+1)Risks discussed3 → 5 (+2)
    Key financials

    Metrics

    8

    Periods

    2

    Q4 FY25

    4
    • Operating Revenue
      2,558 Mn
      YoY+0.2%QoQ-0.7%
    • Total Income
      2,603 Mn
      YoY+1.2%QoQ0%
    • EBITDA Margin
      15.6%
      YoY0%QoQ-7.7%
    • PAT Margin
      9.1%
      YoY+59.6%QoQ+23%

    FY25

    4
    • Operating Revenue
      10,248 Mn
      YoY+6.2%
    • EBITDA Margin
      16.2%
      YoY+5.2%
    • PAT Margin
      9.8%
      YoY+7.7%
    • EPS
      ₹66.52
      YoY+14.2%

    Order Book

    medium confidence

    Pipeline

    deal pipeline tcv

    Working with 22 GCCs at initial stage, expecting results from June/July onwards.

    Cancellations / Deferrals

    • cancelled:Few project closures in auto industry due to headwinds.

    "Management is working with 22 GCCs and expects results from June/July. They are also focusing on high-margin accounts and exiting low-margin ones, leading to a decline in client count."

    Source:
    Prepared remarks

    Capital allocation

    2
    high confidence
    CategoryHeadline
    Debt

    Debt disclosed

    Liquidity

    Cash ₹2,294 million

    Cash position stood at INR 2,294 million at the end of FY '25, up from INR 1,840 million in FY '24. Management also mentioned having about INR 250-300 crores cash on the balance sheet.

    Guidance & targets

    4
    CategoryTargetPriority
    Profitability
    EBITDA Margin
    16% to 18%
    High
    Revenue
    FY26 Revenue Growth
    single-digit growth, hoping for double-digit
    Low
    Headcount
    Headcount Growth
    parallel to revenue growth (6-7%)
    Medium
    Industry Outlook
    Aero Industry Recovery
    bouncing back
    Medium

    Results from 22 GCC engagements

    June end or July onwards
    CurrentInitial stage, working closely with 22 GCCs
    TargetSome results to come

    Why it matters

    These engagements are a significant step in bringing India back into focus and could contribute to revenue growth.

    As we speak, we are now working closely with 22 GCCs and these are at the initial stage, and I'm expecting some results to come with all these 22 from June end or July onwards.

    How to verify

    order_book.pipeline

    Risks & concerns

    5
    RiskSeverity

    Geopolitical situation and macroeconomic conditions in Europe

    The war-like situation and macroeconomic conditions in Europe are causing an extreme slowdown, impacting auto and aero industries.Management acknowledged

    high

    Slowdown in Auto and Aero industries

    Auto is spiraling down, and Aero faces supply chain issues and lack of R&D motivation from big giants, leading to declining revenues in these segments.Management acknowledged

    high

    Volatility in the market

    High market volatility makes it difficult to commit to specific growth numbers for the future.Management acknowledged

    medium

    Cybersecurity attacks with AI

    As data size increases, so do cybersecurity attacks, posing risks when blindly trusting AI-generated content.Management acknowledged

    medium

    Difficulty penetrating Chinese OEMs

    Chinese OEMs keep cards close to their chest, and geopolitical situations make it difficult to work with them, leading to a cautious approach.Management acknowledged

    medium

    Q&A highlights

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    “So, the outlook which I have given primarily on increase in the internal revenue is taking every other industry into consideration and which includes not just engineering but significant portion coming from digital again. So, those cannot be taken as a linear answer for engineering also. Engineering, the slope or the angle at which it is growing will be slightly lower than the DigiTech as we currently see. But overall, it is much better than 2024.”

    Analyst questioned the decline in a core division despite group offshoring efforts, prompting management to clarify that internal revenue growth is broader than just engineering and that engineering's growth trajectory is lower than digital.

    asked by Athreya Ramkumar

    3 min read7 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

    01

    FY25 Financial Performance Overview

    Expleo Solutions reported a robust FY25, with operating revenue growing 6.2% year-on-year to INR 10,248 million. Total income increased by 7.1% to INR 10,410 million. The company achieved an EBITDA margin of 16.2%, an 80 basis points improvement over FY24, driven by higher revenues, improved utilization, and effective bench control. Profit after tax (PAT) stood at 9.8%, up 0.8% from FY24, and EPS grew 14.2% to INR 66.52. The cash position at the end of FY25 was INR 2,294 million.

    02

    Q4 FY25 Performance and Margin Dynamics

    For Q4 FY25, operating revenue was INR 2,558 million, a slight 0.7% sequential drop, mainly due to project closures in the auto industry. Total income remained flat QoQ at INR 2,603 million, supported by higher forex gains. The EBITDA margin for the quarter was 15.6%, down from 16.9% in the prior quarter, primarily due to wage increments. However, EBIT improved to 12.5% from 12.1% QoQ due to lower one-time📎 depreciation costs in the previous quarter, and PAT increased to 9.1% from 7.4% due to a forex gain of INR 15 million compared to a INR 51 million loss in the prior quarter.

    03

    Strategic Focus on Existing Customers and Go-to-Market

    The company's strategy for FY25 focused heavily on growing existing customers and improving service diversification. They identified 7 key account managers for the top 20 accounts, which contribute 70-80% of revenues, and implemented account-based marketing initiatives. This focused effort has shown significant results in at least 75% of these accounts. The go-to-market strategy prioritized regions with good past results, specifically the US and Middle East, which continue to show promise.

    04

    Geographic Expansion and Industry Outlook

    In the US, Expleo increased its visibility through AI and data conferences, focusing on the QSR industry, with a major roundtable already held in New York City and another planned for Chicago in September. In the Middle East, a subsidiary has been created and is operational in Saudi Arabia, with plans for a soft launch. Dubai continues to grow, with the highest-ever headcount. India has also re-entered focus, particularly with 22 GCCs (Global Capability Centers) being engaged, expecting results from June/July onwards. BFSI and retail are promising, while auto and aero continue to decline, with defense showing growth.

    05

    AI and Data Initiatives

    Expleo made significant investments in AI and data capabilities in 2024, hiring over 60 associates and launching 'expleo.ai' as a platform. This platform offers ready-built accelerators, LLMs, and copilots. The company has conducted nearly 50 proofs of concept globally and has started generating revenue from 4 accounts by April. An AI lab has been set up in Pune with a dedicated execution team. AI and data services currently contribute 7-9% of total revenues, with the bulk coming from data, which is foundational for AI-related services.

    06

    Cost Management and Headcount Strategy

    The company has extensively worked to control operational expenses, significantly reducing them over the past year, and plans to maintain the lowest overhead expenses. While the headcount has seen a dip, management clarified this is due to strict bench control and not directly AI. Going forward, headcount growth is expected to parallel revenue growth, estimated at 6-7%. The focus on cost rationalization will extend to SG&A expenses this year.

    07

    Capital Allocation Philosophy

    Expleo's primary capital allocation strategy is to invest in M&A opportunities that complement growth. Dividends are considered a secondary priority if no suitable M&A targets are identified. The company currently holds INR 2,294 million in cash and equivalents. A related party loan of INR 115 crores is in place, which is time-bound and at arm's length pricing, available for disposal when needed. Management emphasized the intent to utilize cash effectively rather than holding large reserves.

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