GE Power India Limited — Q4 FY25 earnings call

Call held 30 May 2025

Management summary

GEPIL reported a strong Q4 and FY25 with significant growth in order intake and backlog, driven by its strategic transformation and focus on core services and FGD projects. Despite a challenging Q4 with margin pressure from provisions, the company achieved a positive full-year profit before tax and maintains a robust debt-free balance sheet with a substantial net cash position. Management is actively addressing Durgapur's underutilization through diversification.

Highlights

  • Order intake for FY25 reached INR 2,183 crores, nearly 2x the previous year's INR 1,171 crores.

  • Order backlog grew to INR 2,662 crores as of March 31, 2025, from INR 1,587 crores a year ago, representing a 67.7% YoY growth.

  • Q4 FY25 revenue increased by 8% to INR 266 crores compared to INR 247 crores in Q4 FY24.

  • The company achieved a surplus net cash position of INR 433 crores and is debt-free, with INR 264 crores invested in fixed deposits.

  • Profit before tax for Q4 FY25 was INR 189 crores positive, significantly up from INR 23 crores in the same period last year, aided by exceptional gains.

Concerns

  • Q4 FY25 gross margins were low at 23%, contributing to negative EBITDA, primarily due to INR 30 crores in prolongation provisions on FGD EPC sites and lack of claim recovery.

  • The Durgapur facility was 1/3 underutilized in FY25, operating at 165,000 hours against a capacity of 242,000 hours, which puts pressure on the P&L.

Key financials

3 periods

Headline

  • Net Cash Position
    ₹433 Cr

Q4 FY25

  • Revenue
    ₹266 Cr
    YoY +8%
  • Order Inflow
    ₹285 Cr
    QoQ +22%
  • Profit Before Tax
    ₹189 Cr
    YoY +721.7%
  • Gross Margin
    23%

FY25

  • Revenue
    ₹1,047 Cr
    YoY +0.77%
  • Order Inflow
    ₹2,183 Cr
    YoY +86.4%
  • Profit Before Tax
    ₹224 Cr

What they filed

Q1 FY27: revenue up 7.7%, net profit up 65.6% against the same quarter last year.

₹ Cr · quarterly
Line itemQ2 FY25Q3 FY25Q4 FY25Q1 FY26Q2 FY26Q3 FY26Q4 FY26Q1 FY27
Revenue217 317 266 287 281 +29%386 +22%316 +19%309 +8%
EBITDA10 4 -21 0 28 +180%125 +3025%107 +610%45
Net profit66 -20 156 32 30 −55%72 +460%103 −34%53 +66%
How to read this

₹ crore, as filed. The percentage beside a figure is the change against the same quarter a year earlier — never the quarter before, which would make every seasonal business look like it collapses and booms each year.

Order book

high confidence

Total value

₹2,662 Cr

as of 2025-03-31 quantified

67.7% YoY

Inflow this quarter

₹285 Cr

Execution

healthy backlog of about 2 years now

Composition

  • FGD EP order (segment)
  • Steam Turbine upgrade (segment)
  • Core services (segment) ₹548 Cr
  • Saudi (geography)
  • Turkey (geography)
  • Australia (geography)
  • UAE (geography)
  • Malaysia (geography)

Pipeline

L1 awaiting loa

L1 in one of the FGD projects

The company achieved its highest-ever order intake from continuing operations since FY2019-20, with a healthy and growing backlog that has improved by 200 basis points in margin.

Source: Prepared remarks

Capital allocation

high confidence
  • Debt Gross ₹0 Cr · Net cash ₹433 Cr
    Yes. Your company is debt-free company. In fact, I'm happy to share that as on March 31, 2025, we were in net investment position.
  • M&A Hydro business undertaking Divestment · Closed

    To create lasting value for our shareholders and focus on new growth areas.

    Resulted in gain of INR 219 crores in the P&L as on March 31, 2025.

    We completed the Hydro business transfer, resulting in gain of INR 219 crores in the P&L as on March 31, 2025.
  • M&A Gas business undertaking Divestment · Closed

    To create lasting value for our shareholders and focus on new growth areas.

    Completed on September 30, 2024.

    We also completed the Gas business undertaking slump sale on September 30, 2024, earlier in the current year.
  • Liquidity Cash ₹433 Cr Surplus net cash position, with INR 264 crores invested in a fixed deposit with a nationalized bank.
    I'm also happy to share the cash performance of your Company which has a surplus net cash position of INR 433 crores in the balance sheet as on March 31, 2025, and we are in net investment position. ... We had invested in a nationalized bank with the FD of INR 264 crores.

What to watch in Q1 FY26

Durgapur facility utilization improvement

Next quarter / FY26
Current 165,000 hours (1/3 underutilized vs 242,000 capacity) in FY25
Target Improved utilization rate

Why it matters

Underutilization impacts profitability; improvement indicates success of diversification strategy into non-coal areas and exports.

So that is something we are trying to solve as well as we enter into FY 2025-26.

Risks & concerns

  • Global economic uncertainty and trade policy shifts

    medium

    The global economy faces uncertainty from new tariff measures and evolving trade policies, impacting global growth projections.

    Management acknowledged

  • Durgapur facility underutilization

    medium

    The Durgapur facility was 1/3 underutilized in FY25 (165,000 hours vs 242,000 capacity), putting pressure on the P&L, and addressing this is an ongoing challenge.

    Management acknowledged

  • Q4 FY25 margin pressure from provisions and lack of claim recovery

    medium

    Q4 gross margins were impacted by INR 30 crores in prolongation provisions on FGD EPC sites and the absence of claim recoveries, leading to negative EBITDA.

    Management acknowledged

  • Environmental cost of India's energy growth

    low

    India's rapid energy growth led to a 3.5% increase in carbon dioxide emissions in 2024, highlighting the need for stronger emission control measures.

    Management acknowledged

Q&A highlights

3 direct, 1 evasive
Company's underperformance over 15 quarters despite favorable India conditions and future strategy. Partial
My response to your question would be that we are going very strong with respect to the strategy, which we have already decided at the start of the year, where the 4-pillar strategy was discussed and shared with all of you. We are very strong on the core services. You have seen the results that we have grown by about 2x. One area where we think a little bit of a confusion was there at one point of time in the financial year, wherein some news was there with respect to the FGD. Now those clouds are also cleared, and the information which has been passed on from the Ministry of Environment and Forest is that the FGDs are going to stay, which is one of the third pillar of our strategy.

Analyst questioned the company's long-term underperformance; management responded by outlining the success of its 4-pillar strategy, particularly in core services and the clarified outlook for FGD projects.

Asked by Lavish

Potential capital infusion from parent company GE Vernova. Evasive
So Lavish, we are a legal entity, and we would like to speak only on our behalf. So maybe I'll answer it this way. ... The net worth of your company as on March 31, 2025, stands at INR 233 crores positive. The cash position of your company stands at INR 433 crores positive. So if you look at the balance sheet post carve-out of Hydro and Gas, I think it is a much stronger balance sheet from what we were an year before.

Analyst probed for external capital support; management deflected by emphasizing the company's improved standalone financial strength and independence post-divestitures.

Asked by Lavish

Low gross margins (23%) and negative EBITDA in Q4 FY25. Direct
So quarter 4, particularly, we have seen some prolongation and provisions on the FGD EPC sites which are ongoing, which we have baked in, in this quarter. So that is one of the key reasons for what you see. ... So we don't have that recovery of the losses that we have done, but just the booking of the regular prolongation provision in the quarter. So that is one thing which is putting the quarter under pressure by around INR 30 crores.

Management provided a clear explanation for the Q4 margin pressure, attributing it to specific provisions on FGD projects and the absence of claim recoveries, impacting the quarter by INR 30 crores.

Asked by Rahul Kapur

Expected gross margins for new projects and future margin trajectory. Partial
First, there are no standard margins, it is always deal by deal assessment. ... But what I can share with you is that our backlog, which I mentioned of INR 2,662 crores as on March 31, 2025, it is a healthier backlog and we have improved by 200 basis points, in fact, 200 basis points from where we started the year.

Management clarified that margins are project-specific but indicated a 200 basis point improvement in the overall backlog margin, suggesting a healthier profitability outlook for future execution.

Asked by Rahul Kapur

Utilization levels and future plans for the Durgapur facility. Direct
We have closed the year at 165,000. So the utilization for the current year is as per the plan, which was 165,000, and our capacity was around 242,000. So 2/3 we can say is what we have been able to utilize in this year. ... So that is something we are trying to solve as well as we enter into FY 2025-26.

Highlights the significant underutilization of the Durgapur facility (1/3) and management's ongoing efforts to address it through diversification into non-coal areas and exports, acknowledging it as a multi-quarter journey.

Asked by Rahul Kapur

Debt-free status of the company. Direct
Yes. Your company is debt-free company. In fact, I'm happy to share that as on March 31, 2025, we were in net investment position. We had invested in a nationalized bank with the FD of INR 264 crores. So it is in net cash surplus and investment position.

Confirms the company's strong balance sheet and liquidity position, being debt-free and in a net investment position, which is a key positive for investors.

Asked by Venkatraman

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Detailed narrative

Global Economic Outlook and India's Power Sector

The global economy faces ongoing uncertainty from new tariff measures and weak growth, with projections for global growth to moderate slightly to 2.8% in 2025 before recovering to 3% in 2026. In contrast, India's economy demonstrates robust growth, with real GDP projected at 0.2% in 2025 and 6.3% in 2026. India's power consumption increased by nearly 7% to 148.48 billion units in March 2025, and peak power demand is anticipated to reach 277 gigawatts in summer 2025. While coal demand grew by 5.5% or 14 million tonnes in 2024, India's energy-related carbon dioxide emissions rose by 3.5%, the highest among major economies, underscoring the need for stronger emission controls.

GEPIL's Strategic Transformation and Performance

GE Power India Limited (GEPIL) is successfully implementing a 4-pillar strategy focused on new growth areas, reduced working capital exposure, and long-gestation projects, which is beginning to yield positive results with narrowing losses and stabilized revenue streams. The company's standalone net worth significantly improved to INR 233 crores as of March 31, 2025, from INR 57 crores a year prior, following the strategic divestment of its Hydro and Gas businesses. This transformation has also led to a 12-point increase in actual margins on core deals, reflecting enhanced operational excellence.

Strong Order Intake and Growing Backlog

GEPIL achieved its highest-ever order intake from continuing operations since FY2019-20, securing INR 2,183 crores in FY25, nearly double the INR 1,171 crores recorded in FY24. Significant orders include FGD EP projects, Steam Turbine upgrades for NTPC and Gujarat State Electricity Corporation, and INR 548 crores in Core services. The order backlog as of March 31, 2025, expanded to INR 2,662 crores from INR 1,587 crores in the previous year, indicating a healthy and growing pipeline with a 200 basis point improvement in margin. The company also expanded its geographical footprint, securing orders from 5 countries including Saudi, Turkey, Australia, UAE, and Malaysia.

Q4 and Full-Year Financials

For Q4 FY25, GEPIL reported a revenue of INR 266 crores, an 8% increase compared to INR 247 crores in Q4 FY24. The full-year FY25 revenue remained stable at INR 1,047 crores, compared to INR 1,039 crores in FY24. Profit before tax for Q4 FY25 was INR 189 crores positive, a substantial improvement from INR 23 crores in Q4 FY24. For the full year, the company achieved a positive profit before tax of INR 224 crores, reversing a loss of INR 177 crores in FY24. These results include exceptional gains of INR 219 crores in Q4 FY25 and INR 262 crores for FY25 from the slump sale of the Hydro and Gas businesses.

Q4 Margin Pressure and Durgapur Operations

Q4 FY25 saw gross margins at approximately 23%, contributing to negative EBITDA, primarily due to INR 30 crores in prolongation provisions on ongoing FGD EPC sites. This quarter also lacked the recovery of claims that had benefited previous periods. The Durgapur facility operated at 165,000 hours in FY25 against a capacity of 242,000 hours, resulting in 1/3 underutilization. Management acknowledges this pressure on the P&L and is actively working to diversify Durgapur's focus into non-coal areas like pressure vessels, cryogenics, and exports, having secured INR 18 crores in orders from these new segments in FY25.

Strong Balance Sheet and Liquidity

GEPIL maintains a robust financial position, operating as a debt-free company. As of March 31, 2025, the company reported a surplus net cash position of INR 433 crores. This includes a significant investment of INR 264 crores in a fixed deposit with a nationalized bank, placing the company in a net investment position. This strong liquidity and absence of debt provide a solid foundation for its ongoing strategic initiatives and future growth.

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