HCL Technologies Limited — Q3 FY25 earnings call

Call held 13 Jan 2025

Management summary

HCL Technologies delivered a strong Q3 FY25, achieving record-high EBIT and net income, driven by robust Services growth and a sequential rebound in HCL Software. The company reported healthy revenue growth and margin expansion, alongside significant deal wins and an improving pipeline. Management provided an updated full-year FY25 guidance, reflecting confidence in the underlying demand despite specific factors impacting the Q4 outlook.

Highlights

  • Total revenue for Q3 FY25 was $3,533 million, up 3.8% QoQ and 4.1% YoY in constant currency.

  • Operating margin stood at 19.5%, an improvement of 93 basis points QoQ.

  • Net income for the quarter was $544 million (15.4% of revenue), marking the highest ever EBIT and net income in a quarter.

  • Services business revenue was $3,145 million, growing 2.2% QoQ and 4.9% YoY in constant currency.

  • HCL Software revenue was $400 million, up 18.7% QoQ but declining 2.1% YoY in constant currency, with an all-time high EBIT percentage of 34.5%.

  • Total new booking TCV for Q3 FY25 was $2.1 billion, with ACV growing 23% YoY and 9% QoQ.

  • Employee count reached 220,755, with a net addition of 2,134; LTM attrition was 13.2%.

  • LTM Operating Cash Flow was $2.85 billion and Free Cash Flow was $2.72 billion, with DSO at a best-ever 77 days.

What they filed

Q1 FY27: revenue up 13.9%, net profit up 20.3% against the same quarter last year.

₹ Cr · quarterly
Line itemQ2 FY25Q3 FY25Q4 FY25Q1 FY26Q2 FY26Q3 FY26Q4 FY26Q1 FY27
Revenue28,862 29,890 30,246 30,349 31,942 +11%33,872 +13%33,981 +12%34,579 +14%
EBITDA6,369 6,860 6,482 6,035 6,545 +3%7,412 +8%6,712 +4%6,870 +14%
Net profit4,237 4,594 4,309 3,844 4,236 −0%4,082 −11%4,490 +4%4,626 +20%
How to read this

₹ crore, as filed. The percentage beside a figure is the change against the same quarter a year earlier — never the quarter before, which would make every seasonal business look like it collapses and booms each year.

Guidance & targets

Revenue

  • Full Year FY25 Revenue Growth (Constant Currency) Revenue · FY25 · Medium confidence 4.5% to 5%
    The revenue growth guidance is for the full year is 4.5% to 5% year-on-year in constant currency terms.

    — Shiv Walia

  • HPE CTG Acquisition Contribution to FY25 Revenue Growth Revenue · FY25 · High confidence approximately 50 basis points
    This includes approximately 50 basis points contribution from HPE CTG acquisition Services.

    — Shiv Walia

  • Full Year FY25 Services Revenue Growth (Constant Currency) Revenue · FY25 · Medium confidence between 4.5% to 5%
    Services revenue growth is also expected to be between 4.5% to 5% year-on-year in constant currency terms.

    — Shiv Walia

  • Services Organic Q4 FY25 Ask Rate Revenue · Q4 FY25 · High confidence (-1.32%) to (+0.6%)
    For Services, the organic Q4 ask rate which was (-1.32%) to (+0.6%) to reach the lower end and higher end of the guidance.

    — C. Vijayakumar

  • Software Business Full Year FY25 Growth Revenue · FY25 · Medium confidence low single-digit type of growth
    So, we still bake in the low single-digit type of growth for the software business on a full year basis.

    — C. Vijayakumar

Profitability

  • Full Year FY25 EBIT Margin Profitability · FY25 · High confidence 18% to 19%

    Previously 18% to 19%18% to 19%

    EBIT margin guidance is unchanged at 18% to 19%.

    — Shiv Walia

Cost Reduction

  • Cost of using LLNs or conversational AI models reduction Cost Reduction · since early 2023 · High confidence more than 85%
    The cost of using LLNs or conversational Al models are reducing. It has dropped more than 85% since early 2023, making more use cases viable.

    — C. Vijayakumar

Sector Outlook

  • Automotive Sector Decline Duration Sector Outlook · next one or two quarters · Medium confidence one or two more quarters of decline
    Automotive continues to remain challenged. I think there will probably be one or two more quarters of decline before some green shoots will come.

    — C. Vijayakumar

Margin

  • M&A integration cost impact on Q4 FY25 margin Margin · Q4 FY25 · High confidence around the same range
    It's going to be around the same range because we did have some integration cost also in this quarter so I don't expect it becoming 40 basis point.

    — Shiv Walia

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Detailed narrative

HCL Technologies delivered a robust performance in Q3 FY25, marking a significant milestone with its highest ever EBIT and net income. The company reported a total revenue of $3,533 million, reflecting a 3.8% sequential growth and a 4.1% year-on-year increase in constant currency. Operating margin stood at 19.5%, improving by 93 basis points quarter-on-quarter, while net income reached $544 million, representing 15.4% of revenue. This strong profitability was partly attributed to the HCL Software business, which contributed 114 basis points to company-level margin improvement and achieved an all-time high EBIT percentage of 34.5%.

The Services business, a key growth driver, recorded $3,145 million in revenue, growing 2.2% sequentially and 4.9% year-on-year in constant currency. This was supported by IT and Business Services growing at 1.5% sequentially and 5.8% year-on-year, and Engineering and R&D Services growing 5.4% sequentially and 1.1% year-on-year in constant currency. While HCL Software saw an 18.7% sequential increase, it experienced a 2.1% year-on-year decline in constant currency, with its Annual Recurring Revenue (ARR) at $1.022 billion, down 0.6% year-on-year. Geographically, Americas led with 6.2% YoY growth, followed by Europe at 2.6% YoY, both in constant currency. Verticals like Retail and CPG showed strong 13.7% QoQ growth, and Technology and Financial Services grew 2.5% and 1.9% QoQ respectively.

In terms of new business, HCLTech secured $2.1 billion in total contract value (TCV) bookings for Q3, with Annual Contract Value (ACV) growing 23% year-on-year and 9% sequentially. The company noted a trend of smaller deals converting faster, aligning with client spending patterns. On the people front, the employee count reached 220,755, with a net addition of 2,134, and LTM attrition stood at 13.2%. Strategic initiatives focused on AI and GenAI, with the cost of using conversational AI models dropping over 85% since early 2023, making more use cases viable. HCLTech is leveraging AI for legacy modernization, data pipeline improvements, and cloud adoption, and has launched new AI and cloud-native labs.

Management provided an updated full-year FY25 guidance, projecting revenue growth of 4.5% to 5% year-on-year in constant currency, including approximately 50 basis points from the HPE CTG acquisition. Services revenue growth is also expected to be in the 4.5% to 5% range, while the EBIT margin guidance remains unchanged at 18% to 19%. The organic Q4 FY25 ask rate for Services is projected between -1.32% and +0.6%. Management acknowledged a softer Q4 outlook due to the completion of a large transformation program and a planned ramp-down in a mega telecom deal, with some residual impact expected in Q1 FY26.

During the Q&A, management expressed confidence in the overall demand environment, noting improvements in discretionary spending across most verticals, excluding Life Sciences, Healthcare, and Public Services. The automotive sector is expected to face challenges for "one or two more quarters" before potential recovery. HCLTech also highlighted its low reliance on H1B visas, with nearly 80% of its US employee base being local, mitigating concerns about potential policy changes. The company remains focused on leveraging its strong pipeline and strategic investments in AI and digital transformation to capitalize on future growth opportunities.

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