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    HFCL

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    Telecommunication·22 Oct 2024
    Management Summary

    HFCL reported a mixed Q2 FY25, with a slight revenue decline but improved YoY EBITDA and PAT margins. The quarter was significantly impacted by a global slowdown in the fiber optic cable market, which management expects to recover from Q4 FY25. Despite short-term headwinds, the company remains bullish on long-term growth driven by BharatNet Phase III, defence opportunities, and international expansion, targeting INR 10,000 crores in revenue within three years. However, management declined to provide overall FY25 guidance at the end of the call, creating some uncertainty.

    Highlights

    8
    • Q2 FY25 Revenue stood at INR 1094 Crores, a 1.53% decline YoY and 5.53% QoQ.

    • EBITDA for Q2 FY25 was INR 172 Crores, growing 14.67% YoY but declining 7.03% QoQ.

    • EBITDA Margin improved to 15.71% in Q2 FY25 from 13.47% in Q2 FY24, but slightly down from 16% in Q1 FY25.

    • PAT for Q2 FY25 was INR 73 Crores, a 4.29% increase YoY but a significant 34.23% decline QoQ.

    • Total order book as of Q2 FY25 stands at approximately INR 6151 crores.

    • Management targets INR 10,000 crores revenue in 3 years and expects fiber optic cable market to revive from Q4 FY25.

    • HFCL aims for up to 70% of optic fiber segment revenue and 40-50% of telecom segment revenue from international markets in the next three years.

    • The company expects to grow its passive components business to INR 750 crores in the next 2-3 years.

    Concerns

    1
    • Worldwide depression in Fiber Optic Cable (FOC) market

    What Changed2

    vs Q3 FY25

    Guidance items9 → 16 (+7)Risks discussed4 → 3 (-1)

    Key financials

    Single quarter

    06 metrics
    1. 01Revenue₹1,094 Cr-1.5%YoY
    2. 02EBITDA₹172 Cr+14.7%YoY
    3. 03EBITDA Margin15.7%
    4. 04PAT₹73 Cr+4.3%YoY
    5. 05PAT Margin6.7%

    Segment breakdown

    Telecom Products Segment
    46.5% Revenue Contribution
    List

    Guidance & targets

    16
    CategoryTargetPriority
    Revenue
    Overall Revenue
    INR 10,000 crores
    Medium
    Revenue
    Overall Revenue Growth
    25-30%
    Low
    Revenue
    Telecom Products Revenue
    INR 2,000 crores
    High
    Market Outlook
    Fiber Optic Cable Market Demand
    Pick up significantly
    High
    Export Revenue
    Optic Fiber Segment Export Revenue Contribution
    Up to 70%
    High
    Export Revenue
    Telecom Segment Export Revenue Contribution
    40-50%
    High
    Business Growth
    Passive Components Business Revenue
    INR 750 crores
    High
    Capacity Utilization
    Fiber Optic Cable Capacity Utilization
    80% or more
    Medium
    Defence Business
    Radars Commercial Availability
    Commercially available
    High
    Defence Business
    Electric Fuzes Revenue
    Start coming up
    Medium
    Debt
    Debt Equity Ratio
    0.25 to 0.30
    High
    BharatNet
    BharatNet Phase III Opportunity for HFCL
    INR 5,000 to INR 8,000 crores
    Medium
    BharatNet
    BharatNet Contract Award
    Awarded
    Medium
    O&M Revenue
    O&M Revenue
    INR 300-400 crores
    High
    Product Development
    3,400 Fibers in 1 OFC Cable Development
    Finalized
    High
    Product Mix
    Product Turnover Split (Telecom:Defence)
    2:1
    Medium

    Risks & concerns

    4
    RiskSeverity

    Worldwide depression in Fiber Optic Cable (FOC) market

    The FOC market has been depressed worldwide for the last 3 quarters, directly impacting Q2 revenue and causing a revision of short-term growth expectations. Management expects recovery from Q4 FY25.Management acknowledged

    high

    Seasonality impacting project execution

    Q2 typically experiences seasonality due to rains, which slows down installation and commissioning work for fiber optic cables. International markets also see less activity during heavy snowfall periods (Dec-Feb).Management acknowledged

    medium

    Delays in government processes for large tenders like BharatNet

    The BharatNet tender evaluation and contract awards have taken longer than anticipated, pushing expected awards to Q1 next calendar year, impacting revenue recognition timelines.Management acknowledged

    medium

    Areas of Evasion(1)

    • Overall FY25 revenue and profit guidance

    Q&A highlights

    3

    “In 3 years' time frame, we should reach to something like INR10,000 crores of revenue. I quite believe that we should be able to do that. As far as the current year is concerned, we are on track of our revenue projection except in Fiber Optic Cable business which helps in the downtrend which was not expected to that level of downtrend in the Fiber Optic Cable market by any company in the world.”

    Analyst questioned the Q2 performance miss against previous growth guidance, prompting management to clarify the impact of the OFC market slowdown while reiterating long-term revenue targets.

    asked by Chandan Mishra

    3 min read7 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

    01

    Q2 FY25 Performance and Order Book

    HFCL reported Q2 FY25 revenue of INR 1094 Crores, a slight decline of 1.53% YoY and 5.53% QoQ. EBITDA grew 14.67% YoY to INR 172 Crores, with EBITDA margin improving to 15.71% from 13.47% in Q2 FY24. PAT increased 4.29% YoY to INR 73 Crores. The total order book stands at approximately INR 6151 crores as of Q2 FY25, with INR 1,500-1,800 crores allocated to O&M over 5-6 years, and the remaining >INR 4,000 crores to be executed in the next 12-18 months.

    02

    Fiber Optic Cable Market Recovery and Expansion

    The fiber optic cable market experienced a worldwide depression for the last three quarters, impacting HFCL's Q2 revenue. However, management is bullish on a recovery, expecting the market to pick up significantly from Q4 FY25 onwards, returning to old levels. Current OFC capacity utilization is around 45%, with a target to increase to 80% or more from the next quarter. The company also noted its exemption from anti-dumping duties on OFC in Europe, providing a competitive edge.

    03

    International Market Focus and Export Targets

    HFCL is strategically expanding its international presence, particularly in the US and UK markets, driven by FTTH demand and government incentives. The company aims for a significant increase in export revenue, targeting up to 70% of its optic fiber segment revenue and 40-50% of its telecom segment revenue from international markets within the next three years. New product lines, including high-density ribbon cables and Nano Thin microcables, have been developed for the US market.

    04

    Defence Sector Opportunities and Product Development

    India's defence sector presents a lucrative opportunity, with HFCL actively developing indigenous technologies like Electronic Fuzes and Surveillance Radars. The company has been selected to develop critical sub-systems for General Atomics' Unmanned Aircraft Systems. Field trials for several radar variants began in Q2, with commercial availability expected from Q4 FY25. Revenue from electric fuzes is projected to start from next year onwards, with inquiries in 'lakhs of fuzes'.

    05

    BharatNet Phase III and Domestic Telecom Growth

    BharatNet Phase III represents a substantial opportunity, with BSNL floating tenders worth approximately ₹65,000 crore for capex over three years, plus an additional ₹40,000 crore for O&M. HFCL estimates its opportunity from BharatNet to be between INR 5,000 to INR 8,000 crores. Technical evaluation for bids is expected to conclude by mid-November, with contracts awarded by Q1 next calendar year (Q4 FY25). The company also expects to achieve INR 2,000 crores in telecom product revenue for the current financial year.

    06

    Margin Outlook and Capital Structure

    HFCL's H1 FY25 EBITDA margin stood at 15.86%. Management expects short-term margins to remain stable, with medium-term margins improving slightly due to increased product revenue and backward integration initiatives. The company plans to fund its approximately INR 900 crores capex over the next couple of years through equity, debt, and internal accruals, aiming to maintain a comfortable debt-equity ratio in the range of 0.25 to 0.30.

    07

    Product Innovation and Passive Connectivity Solutions

    HFCL continues to innovate, launching 1 Gbps and 2 Gbps UBR products and developing a 3,400 fibers in 1 optic fiber cable, expected to be finalized in 2-3 months. The company is also expanding its market share in Passive Connectivity Solutions, projecting this business segment to grow to INR 750 crores in the next 2-3 years. This aligns with the strategy to become an end-to-end solution provider in the telecom infrastructure space.

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