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    Hindustan Media

    HMVL
    Media, Entertainment & Publication·4 Feb 2025
    Management Summary

    Hindustan Media Ventures reported a robust Q3 FY25 with significant revenue and EBITDA growth, driven by strong performance in Print advertising and Radio. While the Digital segment also grew its topline, it continues to operate at a loss, and overall profitability is impacted by strategic investments in new digital ventures like OTTplay. The company maintains a strong cash position and is focused on diversifying its revenue streams, though shareholder concerns regarding long-term value creation and capital returns were raised.

    Highlights

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    • Consolidated revenue grew 9% YoY and 11% QoQ, indicating strong momentum.

    • EBITDA reached INR 46 crores, marking a significant 64% YoY and 42% QoQ improvement.

    • PAT, while still negative, improved 50% sequentially to negative INR 3 crores.

    • Print segment showed advertising-led growth, with English ad revenue up 14% YoY and 26% QoQ.

    • Radio business achieved handsome topline growth of 29% YoY and 46% QoQ, reaching breakeven performance.

    • Digital business topline grew 32% YoY to INR 51 crores, with loss position improving 24% YoY.

    • Company maintains a strong cash position with INR 920 crores as of December.

    Concerns

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    • PAT remains negative at INR 3 crores.

    • Print circulation revenue declined 22% YoY for English and 6% YoY for Hindi.

    • Digital business still operates at a negative 26% margin.

    • Radio business yields continue to struggle compared to pre-Covid levels.

    • Increased 'other expenses' due to OTTplay investments are impacting overall profitability, masking Print segment operating leverage.

    • Analyst noted a INR 700 crore decline in net worth over 5 years and no dividend expected this year.

    What Changed1

    vs Q4 FY25

    Guidance items3 → 4 (+1)

    Key financials

    Single quarter

    04 metrics
    1. 01Consolidated Revenue+9%YoY
    2. 02Consolidated EBITDA₹46 Cr+64%YoY
    3. 03Consolidated PAT₹-3 Cr+50%QoQ
    4. 04Cash Balance (Dec)₹920 Cr

    Segment breakdown

    Print
    ₹387 Cr Operating Revenue₹42 Cr Operating EBITDA400 bps Operating Margin Improvement₹181 Cr English Ad Revenue₹13 Cr English Circulation Revenue Hindi Ad Revenue Growth Hindi Circulation Revenue Growth
    Radio
    Topline Growth Bottomline Performance Profitability Growth
    Digital
    ₹51 Cr Topline Loss Position Improvement-26% Margin Topline Growth Bottomline Growth
    List

    Capital allocation

    1
    high confidence
    CategoryHeadline
    Liquidity

    Cash ₹920 crores

    Cash position remains extremely strong, about the same as last quarter.

    Guidance & targets

    4
    CategoryTargetPriority
    Profitability
    Radio Business Yields
    Pre-Covid levels
    Medium
    Expenses
    OTTplay Expenses
    Go down
    High
    Market Share
    OTTplay User Base
    More than 1% of 125 million (1.25 million users)
    Medium
    Revenue
    OTTplay Business Revenue
    INR 200 - 250 cr
    Medium

    OTTplay Expenses Trajectory

    Next quarter
    CurrentSubstantial, but 65% lower YoY this quarter
    TargetContinued decline in expenses

    Why it matters

    Management stated expenses would 'go down for sure,' which is key to improving Digital segment profitability and overall company margins.

    Ok. And the expenses on OTTplay that we are doing every year, are we expecting it to go down in future or continue at these levels? Piyush Gupta: Go down for sure.

    How to verify

    key_financials.segment_breakdown[name='Digital'].metrics[label='Loss Position']

    Risks & concerns

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    RiskSeverity

    Print Industry Decline

    The Print industry is facing a decline, necessitating the company's diversification efforts into other media segments.Analyst acknowledged

    medium

    Radio Business Yields Below Pre-Covid Levels

    Despite topline growth, Radio business yields are still struggling compared to pre-Covid levels, impacting overall profitability and requiring sustained effort to improve.Analyst acknowledged

    medium

    Profitability Impact from Digital Investments

    Strategic investments in OTTplay are leading to higher 'other expenses', which currently mask the operating leverage seen in the Print segment and contribute to the overall negative PAT.Analyst acknowledged

    medium

    Shareholder Value Creation and Return on Capital

    Concerns were raised about a significant decline in net worth over five years and the absence of dividends, questioning the company's ability to generate adequate returns for shareholders.Analyst acknowledged

    high

    Q&A highlights

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    “So, INR 588 cr deposit that you take is consequent to our AFE business. So, if you understand the AFE business, we take deposits from our prospective advertisers in which we take an investment position. So, it's second leg of the entry on the AFE deal that they have done.”

    Clarified the nature of a large liability, explaining it's tied to ad-for-equity deals and not traditional deposit-taking, which is crucial for understanding the balance sheet.

    asked by Mohit Kumra

    2 min read6 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

    01

    Consolidated Performance Overview

    Hindustan Media Ventures Limited reported a strong Q3 FY25, with consolidated revenue growing 9% year-on-year and 11% sequentially. EBITDA significantly improved by 64% YoY and 42% QoQ, reaching INR 46 crores. Despite these improvements, the company recorded a negative PAT of INR 3 crores, though this was a 50% sequential improvement. The cash position remains robust, with INR 920 crores as of December, reflecting a healthy financial standing.

    02

    Print Business Performance and Strategy

    The Print segment demonstrated advertising-led growth, with operating revenue up 7% year-on-year to INR 387 crores. Operating EBITDA for Print was INR 42 crores, with margins improving by 400 basis points. English ad revenue saw a 14% YoY and 26% QoQ increase to INR 181 crores, driven by pricing and mix rather than volume. However, circulation revenue declined, with English down 22% YoY to INR 13 crores and Hindi down 6% YoY, attributed to strategic discounting aimed at increasing copy numbers.

    03

    Radio and Digital Business Updates

    The Radio business achieved a handsome topline growth of 29% YoY and 46% QoQ, reaching breakeven on the bottom line, with profitability improving 88% QoQ. This growth was driven by both on-air and off-air properties, including events. The Digital business grew its topline by 32% YoY to INR 51 crores, and its loss position improved marginally by 24% YoY to a negative 26% margin. Sequentially, Digital topline was down 7% and bottomline down 14%.

    04

    Ad-for-Equity (AFE) Investments and Strategy

    The company clarified that its INR 588 crore sundry deposits are related to its AFE business, where it takes deposits from advertisers and subscribes to their equity or financial securities. These are minority investment positions, not acquisitions, and the underlying assets are primarily held for sale. Management confirmed that the strategy is to exit these investments to generate cash, a process in which they have been successful, contributing to the strong cash balance.

    05

    Capital Allocation and Growth Diversification

    Hindustan Media maintains a strong balance sheet with INR 920 crores in cash, which it plans to deploy for growth avenues. The strategy involves diversifying into digital new genres, other languages, and adjacencies like OTTplay, Shine (classifieds), and Mosaic (VC/PE stage investments). Management emphasized a calibrated approach to investments, focusing on areas where the company has a 'right to succeed' and aiming to go 'deep rather than wide' in its strategic ventures.

    06

    Shareholder Value and Capital Returns

    An analyst raised significant concerns about a INR 700 crore decline in net worth over the past five years and the absence of dividends, questioning the company's return on capital. Management acknowledged these concerns, stating that they are investing for long-term sustainable value creation and are trying their best to build future businesses. However, no specific targets for return on capital or dividend plans for the current year were provided, suggesting continued focus on reinvestment for growth.

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