Indigo Paints Limited — Q4 FY25 earnings call

Call held 26 May 2025

Management summary

Indigo Paints navigated a challenging FY25 with sustained sluggishness in the paint industry, reporting a modest 0.3% standalone sales growth in Q4 FY25. Despite tepid top-line growth, the company demonstrated robust profitability, achieving historic high EBITDA and PAT margins in Q4. Management expressed confidence in a demand recovery by Q2 FY26, expecting a return to double-digit growth and improved margins.

Highlights

  • Q4 FY25 Standalone Sales registered a value growth of 0.3%.

  • Q4 FY25 Standalone EBITDA increased by 4.4% to 85.9 crores, with a historic high margin of 23.4%.

  • Q4 FY25 Standalone PAT grew by 6.3% to 56.9 crores, achieving a historic high PAT margin of 15.3%.

  • Full Year FY25 Standalone Sales reached 1277.2 crores, a 1.8% top-line growth.

  • Full Year FY25 Standalone EBITDA slightly reduced by 0.5% to 231.6 crores, with a margin of 18.1%.

  • Q4 FY25 Consolidated Revenue grew by 0.7% to 387.6 crores, with EBITDA growing 3.3% and PAT 5.4%.

  • A&P spend as a percentage of revenue decreased from 6.3% in Q4 FY24 to 5.0% in Q4 FY25, and from 7.4% in FY24 to 6.4% in FY25.

  • Active dealer count was around 18,400 and tinting machine population was about 11,000 as on March 31, 2025.

Key financials

2 periods

Headline

  • Standalone Sales Growth
    30%
    YoY +0.3%
  • Standalone EBITDA
    ₹85.9 Cr
    YoY +4.4%
  • Standalone EBITDA Margin
    23.4%
  • Standalone PAT
    ₹56.9 Cr
    YoY +6.3%
  • Standalone PAT Margin
    15.3%
  • Consolidated Revenue
    ₹387.6 Cr
    YoY +0.7%
  • Consolidated EBITDA Margin
    22.6%
  • Consolidated PAT Margin
    14.6%

FY25

  • Standalone Sales
    ₹1,277.2 Cr
    YoY +1.8%
  • Standalone EBITDA
    ₹231.6 Cr
    YoY -0.5%
  • Standalone EBITDA Margin
    18.1%
  • Standalone PAT
    ₹143.9 Cr
  • Standalone PAT Margin
    11.1%
  • Consolidated Revenue
    ₹1,341 Cr
    YoY +2.7%
  • Consolidated EBITDA
    ₹233.5 Cr
    YoY -1.9%
  • Consolidated EBITDA Margin
    17.4%

What they filed

Q1 FY27: revenue up 18.6%, net profit up 61.5% against the same quarter last year.

₹ Cr · quarterly
Line itemQ2 FY25Q3 FY25Q4 FY25Q1 FY26Q2 FY26Q3 FY26Q4 FY26Q1 FY27
Revenue289 327 367 295 298 +3%339 +4%398 +8%350 +19%
EBITDA43 57 86 44 46 +7%66 +16%92 +7%62 +41%
Net profit24 36 57 26 26 +8%36 +0%57 +0%42 +62%
How to read this

₹ crore, as filed. The percentage beside a figure is the change against the same quarter a year earlier — never the quarter before, which would make every seasonal business look like it collapses and booms each year.

Guidance & targets

Profitability

  • EBITDA Margins Profitability · FY26 · Medium confidence improve
    We expect the demand to come back to its original growth levels sometime in Q2 of this fiscal. With raw material prices continuing to soften, the EBITDA margins for FY26 are expected to improve with a general improvement in the demand scenario, lower raw material costs and an improved product mix.

    — Hemant Jalan, Chairman & Managing Director

  • Gross Margins and EBITDA Margins Profitability · Y-on-Y basis · Medium confidence small expansion
    So that aided with gradual recovery in the demand and continued small but steady softening of the raw material prices will see on a Y-on-Y basis, you will see a small expansion happening in gross margins and EBITDA margins, at least for us.

    — Hemant Jalan, Chairman & Managing Director

Capacity

  • Water-based paint plant commissioning Capacity · Q3 FY26 · High confidence Q3 of FY26
    the water-based plant is now expected to be commissioned sometime in Q3 of FY26

    — Hemant Jalan, Chairman & Managing Director

  • Solvent-based paint plant commissioning Capacity · Q1/Q2 FY26 · High confidence end of Q1 or start of Q2 of FY26
    the solvent based plant is expected to be up and running sometime by the end of the current quarter Q1 or at the start of Q2 of FY26.

    — Hemant Jalan, Chairman & Managing Director

  • Putty plant brownfield expansion completion Capacity · Q1 FY26 · High confidence end of Q1 in another month and a half-time
    The brownfield expansion of our putty plant at Jodhpur will also be completed at around the same time, that is towards the end of Q1 in another month and a half-time.

    — Hemant Jalan, Chairman & Managing Director

Revenue

  • Demand recovery to original growth levels Revenue · Q2 FY26 · Medium confidence sometime in Q2 of this fiscal
    We expect the demand to come back to its original growth levels sometime in Q2 of this fiscal.

    — Hemant Jalan, Chairman & Managing Director

  • Q1 growth Revenue · Q1 FY26 · Medium confidence significantly better than Q4
    But I do hope that the growth for Q1 will be significantly better than Q4.

    — Hemant Jalan, Chairman & Managing Director

  • Value growth Revenue · by Q2 FY26 · Medium confidence significantly higher double digit
    by the time Q2 happens, if things continue to improve the way they are, we will be back to significantly higher double digit value growth.

    — Hemant Jalan, Chairman & Managing Director

Risks & concerns

  • Sustained sluggishness in paint industry and consumer sector

    medium

    FY25 saw sustained sluggishness across the paint industry and entire consumer sector.

    Management acknowledged

  • Regional demand challenges (Kerala)

    medium

    Kerala has been under challenge, with most companies seeing degrowth; Indigo has large exposure to Kerala.

    Management acknowledged

  • Subdued demand scenario impacting dealer network and tinting machine adoption

    medium

    Active dealer count slightly declined, and tinting machine adoption slowed due to weak demand.

    Management acknowledged

  • Temporary anti-dumping duty on titanium dioxide

    medium

    Anti-dumping duty imposed on Chinese titanium dioxide is a temporary aberration with a court case pending, expected to be resolved in 3 weeks.

    Management acknowledged

  • Early monsoon and migrant labor issues in North India

    medium

    Monsoons hitting 10 days earlier and geopolitical issues near Pakistan border caused migrant labor to return home, impacting painting activities and May demand in North India.

    Management acknowledged

Q&A highlights

3 direct
Competitive growth comparison with Berger Paints Direct
So, Kerala has been under a challenge for quite some time and our market intelligence seems to suggest that most companies have degrown a lot in Kerala... Separately, I would say that Berger is very dominant in eastern part of India. It is also a strong area for us, but not as dominantly strong. And I think the recovery in the market has been a little stronger in eastern India.

Reveals regional demand challenges (Kerala) and competitive strengths (Berger in Eastern India) impacting Indigo's growth relative to peers.

Asked by Abneesh Roy

Strategy to achieve 2x-3x industry growth rate Direct
the complete thrust has been on a renewed expansion of the network and to drastically increase this dealer count significantly... Along with that there is also a faster adoption of tinting machines... continue to pay much more focus on secondary sales activities to engage more with the painters and the contractors and I am sure the results will be evident as we go forward.

Outlines specific strategic initiatives (network expansion, tinting machines, secondary sales focus, premiumization) to regain higher growth trajectory.

Asked by Abneesh Roy

Impact of anti-dumping duty on titanium dioxide and raw material costs Direct
two weeks ago, there has been antidumping duty imposed on import of titanium dioxide from China which is significant. And there is a court case going on led by the Indian Paint Association representing all the paint manufacturers... But there has been no other levy of any antidumping duty on any other paint raw material. So, it's a small reduction in raw material prices but any small reduction is helpful in improving the margins.

Clarifies the temporary nature and ongoing legal challenge of a key raw material cost impact, and the overall mild softening trend in other raw material prices.

Asked by Aditya Bhartia

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Detailed narrative

Q4 FY25 Performance Overview

Indigo Paints reported a modest 0.3% value growth in standalone sales for Q4 FY25. Despite this, the company achieved robust profitability, with standalone EBITDA growing 4.4% to 85.9 crores, and EBITDA margin reaching a historic high of 23.4%. Standalone PAT increased by 6.3% to 56.9 crores, also marking a historic high PAT margin of 15.3%. Consolidated revenue grew by 0.7% to 387.6 crores, with EBITDA and PAT growing 3.3% and 5.4% respectively.

Full Year FY25 Financials

For the full fiscal year FY25, standalone sales reached 1277.2 crores, reflecting a 1.8% top-line growth. Standalone EBITDA slightly reduced by 0.5% to 231.6 crores, with a margin of 18.1%. PAT for the full fiscal was 143.9 crores, with a margin of 11.1%. On a consolidated basis, FY25 revenue was 1,341 crores (2.7% growth), while EBITDA reduced by 1.9% to 233.5 crores, resulting in a consolidated EBITDA margin of 17.4%.

Operational Highlights and Network Expansion

The company continues to focus on network expansion, with active dealers at approximately 18,400 and tinting machines at about 11,000 as of March 31, 2025. Management noted a slight decline in active dealer count and slower tinting machine adoption in recent quarters due to subdued demand, but expects a healthy increase in Q1 FY26. The revenue contribution from the differentiated product portfolio remained largely flat at 28.2% in FY25.

CAPEX and Sustainability Initiatives

Work is progressing on new plants in Jodhpur; the water-based paint plant is expected to be commissioned in Q3 FY26, while the solvent-based plant and putty plant expansion are anticipated by the end of Q1 or start of Q2 FY26. Minor delays are not expected to impact sales. On the sustainability front, rooftop solar panels have been installed at the Pune head office and Cochin factory, and the 'Indigo Seva Utsav' initiative has painted over 150 government schools.

Competitive Landscape and Demand Outlook

Management acknowledged a challenging market environment in FY25, with Q3 being the worst quarter. While Q4 saw a modest uptick, demand recovery has not been uniform across India, with Kerala remaining a challenge. The company aims to return to 2.5X-3X industry growth rates and expects demand to normalize to original growth levels by Q2 FY26, with Q1 FY26 growth projected to be significantly better than Q4 FY25.

Raw Material Costs and Margin Outlook

A&P spend as a percentage of revenue decreased from 7.4% in FY24 to 6.4% in FY25, reflecting a conscious decision to reduce advertising in a weak demand scenario. Management clarified that crude oil prices have a weak linkage to paint raw materials. While a temporary anti-dumping duty on titanium dioxide is a concern, a court judgment is awaited. Overall, mild softening of raw material prices, coupled with an improved product mix and better freight management (due to the Pudukkotai plant), is expected to lead to a small expansion in gross and EBITDA margins in FY26.

Working Capital Management

The company's days outstanding remained stable at 32 days at the end of Q4 FY25, similar to the previous year. Finished goods inventory reduced from 60 days to 56-57 days, and raw material inventory from 36 days to 29 days. Trade payables reduced from 60 days to 55 days, primarily due to adherence to the government mandate for payments to MSME suppliers within 45 days. Management confirmed no working capital borrowings and a growing treasury chest.

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