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    Vaidya Sane Ayurved Laboratories Q4 FY25 earnings call

    MADHAVBAUG
    Healthcare·23 May 2025
    Management Summary

    Madhavbaug reported a mixed H2 and FY25, demonstrating strong profitability improvements driven by stringent cost controls, particularly in employee and raw material expenses, leading to a 325% H2 EBITDA increase and 199% FY EBITDA increase. However, revenue saw a slight dip of 0.38% in H2 and 9.2% for the full year, attributed to reduced footfall. The company is aggressively expanding its hospital network, targeting increased patient footfall, and enhancing its brand visibility through new partnerships and marketing strategies, while also focusing on internal process improvements.

    Highlights

    7
    • H2 FY25 EBITDA (excluding other income) surged by 325% to Rs. 7.74 crore from Rs. 1.82 crore in H2 FY24.

    • FY25 EBITDA (excluding other income) increased by 199% to Rs. 13.50 crore from Rs. 4.5 crore in FY24.

    • H2 FY25 PAT was Rs. 5.79 crore, a significant increase from Rs. 0.81 crore in H2 FY24.

    • FY25 PAT was Rs. 7.15 crore, up from Rs. 1.99 crore in FY24, representing a 259% growth.

    • Employee costs were optimized, declining by 28% YoY from Rs. 25 crore in FY24 to Rs. 18 crore in FY25.

    • Monthly new patient footfall increased to 9,000-10,000, with a target to reach 12,000-13,000 per month.

    • The new 30-bedded Vadodara hospital became operational in April, with scalability to 100 beds planned.

    Concerns

    4
    • H2 FY25 revenue from operations decreased marginally by 0.38% to Rs. 48.05 crore from Rs. 48.23 crore in H2 FY24.

    • FY25 revenue from operations decreased by 9.2% to Rs. 89.85 crore from Rs. 99 crore in FY24.

    • Total footfall inside clinics decreased by 6% in FY25.

    • New patient footfall decreased by 19% in FY25.

    What Changed2

    vs Q2 FY26

    Guidance items18 → 12 (-6)Risks discussed0 → 2 (+2)
    Key financials

    Metrics

    10

    Periods

    2

    Headline

    6
    • Revenue from Operations (FY)
      ₹89.85 Cr
      YoY-9.2%
    • EBITDA (FY)
      ₹13.5 Cr
      YoY+2%
    • PAT (FY)
      ₹7.15 Cr
      YoY+2.6%
    • Basic EPS (FY)
      ₹6.76
    • Employee Cost (FY)
      ₹18 Cr
      YoY-28.0%

    H2

    4
    • Revenue from Operations
      ₹48.05 Cr
      YoY-0.4%
    • EBITDA
      ₹7.74 Cr
      YoY+3.3%
    • PAT
      ₹5.79 Cr
      YoY+6.2%
    • Basic EPS
      ₹3.17

    Segment breakdown

    • Hospital Revenue (FY25)₹23.2 Cr26.6%
    • Franchisee Product & Services (Clinic Revenue) (FY25)₹64 Cr73.4%
    Donut· Share of Revenue

    Capital allocation

    1
    medium confidence
    CategoryHeadline
    Capex

    Capex disclosed

    Guidance & targets

    12
    CategoryTargetPriority
    Patient Footfall
    Monthly new patient footfall
    12,000-13,000
    Medium
    Patient Footfall
    Monthly patient footfall
    30% more
    Medium
    Revenue
    Monthly revenue growth
    20%
    Medium
    Revenue
    Revenue
    ₹110-120 crore
    Medium
    Profitability
    Full year EBITDA margin (consolidated)
    16%
    Medium
    Profitability
    Full year PAT margin
    11-12%
    Medium
    Profitability
    Overall EBITDA margin
    >20%
    Medium
    Capacity
    Additional new clinics
    30+
    High
    Capacity
    Additional hospital beds
    ~200
    Medium
    Partnerships
    Minimum insurance companies tied up
    10-12
    Medium
    Regulatory
    GIPSA approval status
    Approved
    Medium
    Cost Control
    Employee cost
    Stay towards ₹18 crore
    High

    What to watch in Q1 FY26

    5

    New Patient Footfall Growth

    Next few months
    Current9,000-10,000 per month
    Target12,000-13,000 per month

    Why it matters

    This is a key driver for revenue growth and overall business expansion, indicating the effectiveness of marketing and outreach strategies.

    Our monthly new patient footfall has increased to about 9,000 to 10,000 per month. And we are now targeting somewhere more than about 12,000 to 13,000 new patients per month in the near future.

    Risks & concerns

    2
    RiskSeverity

    Revenue Growth vs. Footfall Decline

    Despite cost optimization, FY25 revenue declined by 9.2% and new patient footfall by 19%, which management attributes to initial slow months and aims to reverse with increased patient acquisition.Management acknowledged

    medium

    Integration of New vs. Old Teams

    Analyst raised concern about potential friction between existing and new teams during expansion, but management believes past issues are resolved and new people are integrating well.Analyst downplayed

    low

    Q&A highlights

    8

    “Just to give you an idea about Rs 25 crore to Rs. 18 crores, this was a very calculated move and a very strategical move that we had taken. And I had invested about, say about 12 months odd to reach to this level. And this has been planned very well about what departments would do what kind of task, the KRA and KPL have been put down on the paper very stringently and have been followed to a very good level.”

    Explains the strategic and planned nature of the significant employee cost optimization, a key driver of improved profitability.

    asked by Rohit from Mittal Analytics

    3 min read8 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

    01

    Financial Performance Overview

    For H2 FY25, revenue from operations was Rs. 48.05 crore, a marginal decrease of 0.38% YoY from Rs. 48.23 crore in H2 FY24. However, EBITDA (excluding other income) surged by 325% to Rs. 7.74 crore from Rs. 1.82 crore, and PAT reached Rs. 5.79 crore from Rs. 0.81 crore. For the full FY25, revenue declined by 9.2% to Rs. 89.85 crore from Rs. 99 crore in FY24, but EBITDA grew by 199% to Rs. 13.50 crore from Rs. 4.5 crore, with PAT at Rs. 7.15 crore from Rs. 1.99 crore. Basic EPS for FY25 stood at Rs. 6.76.

    02

    Operational Efficiency & Cost Control

    The significant improvement in profitability was primarily driven by rationalized key operating costs. Employee costs decreased by approximately 28% YoY, from Rs. 25 crore in FY24 to Rs. 18 crore in FY25, through strategic optimization and clear KRA/KPL implementation. Other expenses also saw a notable decline of 17% from Rs. 41 crore to Rs. 34 crore, achieved by reducing advertisement, professional fees, transport, and telephone expenses, along with some rent reduction. The cost of goods sold also decreased from 26% to 18.70% due to consolidated purchasing and inter-company transactions.

    03

    Hospital Network Expansion

    Madhavbaug is aggressively expanding its hospital network, with plans to add approximately 200 more beds in FY26, with construction expected to take about 12 months. The new 30-bedded Vadodara hospital became operational in April and is scalable to 100 beds. Permissions have been secured for 100 additional beds at Khopoli hospital and 80 more beds at Nagpur hospital (with 20-40 beds planned initially). The company aims to establish over 1,000 beds and 1,000 clinics by 2030, focusing on tier 1 and 2 cities.

    04

    Patient Engagement & Care Plans

    Monthly new patient footfall has increased to 9,000-10,000, with a target of 12,000-13,000 new patients per month. The company offers 9-10 care plans, expanding beyond heart and diabetes to include cholesterol management, PCOD, and gut detox, with plans to introduce 10-15 new care plans in the coming 1-2 months. Care plans range from Rs. 7,000-10,000 for general conditions to Rs. 80,000-90,000 for cardiac cases, typically lasting 365 days with aggressive management for 90-120 days.

    05

    Insurance & Corporate Partnerships

    The company has empaneled with 5-6 leading insurance companies and over 14 TPAs, including Star Health Insurance. Khopoli and Nagpur hospitals now offer cashless facilities, with Vizag and Vadodara hospitals in the process of obtaining NABH accreditation and CGHS scheme inclusion. Corporate partnerships have been initiated, fulfilling check-up orders for over 80,000 police personnel and Konkan Railway employees, and tying up with entities like JSW and Reliance. Approximately 30% of admissions at Khopoli Hospital are now through insurance companies.

    06

    Marketing & Brand Building

    Madhavbaug has shifted its marketing strategy from digital-only to ground-level outreach and direct engagement, which is yielding stronger returns. The onboarding of Mr. Sonu Sood as brand ambassador in April 2025 is expected to enhance visibility and strengthen the brand. Investments have been made in creating advertising materials, content, and collaterals for the entire year to leverage this partnership, contributing to the increase in intangible assets by Rs. 4 crore.

    07

    Internal Process Improvements

    The company has implemented significant internal control process changes, particularly in manufacturing quality, raw material procurement, and HR processes. KRA/KPLs have been established for all employees to ensure clarity and accountability, contributing to the optimized employee costs. These improvements are aimed at enhancing product quality, patient compliance, and overall operational efficiency, which management believes will sustain profitability and support future growth without immediate need for external consultants.

    08

    Medical Tourism Initiatives

    Madhavbaug is actively exploring medical tourism opportunities, connecting with agencies that bring patients from African countries and GCC regions. Online consulting has already begun for these patients. The company is developing care plans for international patients, with a goal to confidently discuss online patient management, medicine delivery, and hospital stays for 7-10 days within the next couple of months.

    This is an AI-generated summary of a publicly available earnings call transcript.