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    Sonata Software Limited

    SONATSOFTW
    Information Technology·7 May 2025
    Management Summary

    Sonata Software reported a challenging Q4 FY25 with sequential revenue declines in both international and domestic segments, primarily due to budget cuts from a large TMT client and Quant seasonality. Despite this, the company secured a significant $73 million large deal and improved International Services EBITDA margin. Management expressed optimism for a Q1 turnaround and Q2 growth, driven by new deal ramp-ups and strong performance in healthcare, life sciences, and banking verticals, while acknowledging ongoing softness in retail and manufacturing.

    Highlights

    5
    • International Services EBITDA margin improved to 16.5% in Q4 FY25 despite revenue decline.

    • Secured a $73 million large deal with an American TMT company, expected to scale over two to three quarters.

    • Strong order booking for International Services with a book-to-bill ratio of 1.25, totaling over $100 million.

    • Healthcare, Life Sciences, and BFSI verticals expected to scale to $250 million revenue in 3-5 years.

    • Achieved AWS Generative AI Competency and joined Microsoft Partner AI Council, reinforcing AI leadership.

    Concerns

    5
    • Consolidated Revenue declined 7.9% QoQ to ₹2,617.2 crores.

    • International Services Revenue declined 6.6% QoQ and 0.5% YoY in USD terms.

    • Domestic Business Revenue declined 9.1% QoQ to ₹1,918.2 crores.

    • International Services EBITDA margin for FY25 stood at 17%, down from 21% in FY24.

    • Continued headwinds in retail and manufacturing sectors, with anticipated degrowth in Q1 and Q2 FY26.

    What Changed2

    vs Q1 FY26

    Guidance items5 → 16 (+11)Risks discussed4 → 6 (+2)

    Key financials

    Single quarter

    06 metrics
    1. 01Consolidated Revenue₹2,617.2 Cr+19.4%YoY
    2. 02International Services Revenue81.3 Mn-0.5%YoY
    3. 03International Services EBITDA Margin16.5%
    4. 04Consolidated PAT (before exceptional)₹107.5 Cr-2.6%YoY
    5. 05Consolidated EPS₹3.87+2.4%QoQ

    Segment breakdown

    • International Services₹2,829.7 Cr27.8%
    • Domestic Business₹7,340.6 Cr72.2%
    Donut· Share of Revenue (INR)

    Order Book

    high confidence

    Inflow this qtr

    USD 100 million

    Composition

    Large Deals(deal size)
    35.0%
    Fortune 500 Clients(client type)
    33.0%

    Pipeline

    deal pipeline tcv

    Pipeline for AI programs across 100+ clients

    "Order booking for international business was strong, with a book-to-bill ratio of 1.25 and over $100 million in bookings this quarter, including a $73 million TMT deal."

    Source:
    Prepared remarks

    Capital allocation

    3
    high confidence
    CategoryHeadline
    Debt

    Debt disclosed

    Dividend

    ₹4.4/share (final)

    Liquidity

    Cash ₹707 crores

    Closing balance of cash for the year.

    Guidance & targets

    16
    CategoryTargetPriority
    Revenue
    AI-enabled services contribution to revenue
    20%
    High
    Revenue
    Healthcare, Life Sciences, BFSI revenue
    $250 million
    High
    Revenue
    $73 million TMT deal ramp-up
    fully ramp up
    High
    Revenue
    Total revenue
    $1.5 billion
    Medium
    Growth
    SOC business growth contribution
    20%
    High
    Growth
    Quant business growth
    bounce to growth in Q1 and scale by Q2
    Medium
    Growth
    Largest client growth
    marginal growth
    Medium
    Growth
    International IT business growth (Q1)
    flat to marginally growth
    Medium
    Growth
    International IT business growth (Q2 onwards)
    back into more growth
    Medium
    Growth
    Banking Financial Services recovery
    full recovery
    Medium
    Growth
    Retail sector degrowth
    degrowth
    High
    Profitability
    EBITDA recovery path
    comment about 4 years
    Low
    Profitability
    Margin improvement
    at least one quarter delayed
    Medium
    Market Position
    Top quartile growth company
    top quartile
    Medium
    Market Position
    Top quadrant growth in four industries
    top quadrant
    Medium
    Market Position
    Top 4-5 publicly listed midsize companies
    in that zone
    Medium

    Largest client revenue growth

    next quarter
    CurrentDegrowth in Q4 FY25
    TargetMarginal growth in Q1 FY26

    Why it matters

    The largest client's performance significantly impacted Q4, and its recovery is crucial for overall International Services growth.

    our largest client will come back to marginal growth.

    How to verify

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    Risks & concerns

    6
    RiskSeverity

    Budget cuts and ramp-down from largest client

    Budget cuts in H2 FY25 from the largest client led to significant Q4 degrowth, exceeding expectations.Management acknowledged

    high

    Headwinds in retail and manufacturing sectors

    Continued softness and macroeconomic uncertainty in these sectors are leading to anticipated degrowth in Q1 and Q2 FY26.Management acknowledged

    medium

    Longer deal closure cycles

    Broader market conditions are leading to extended timelines for closing deals.Management acknowledged

    medium

    AI disruption in software development lifecycle

    While AI adoption is growing in customer support, its impact on core software development is still early days due to security and compliance concerns.Analyst downplayed

    low

    OEM going direct to clients in domestic business

    Potential risk of a large OEM bypassing Sonata to directly serve clients in the domestic market; management is monitoring execution and has taken measures.Analyst acknowledged

    medium

    RBI procedural issue delaying debt repayment

    An RBI issue prevented remitting funds from India for debt repayment related to the Quant acquisition, impacting cash flow, but is expected to be resolved in about a quarter.Management acknowledged

    medium

    Q&A highlights

    8

    “broadly speaking, for our largest tech client and other tech clients that we see, yes, there is more adoption of Al on two fronts. There is definitely an adoption getting into the customer support side of the equation where the adoption of AI is increasing and we are definitely seeing that. And across our large clients in the TMT space, we are seeing as an Al company, so we are really leading the way for them as they double down on Al investments in that area. We are definitely leading the chart there in our mind and we are doing well. The second side, I would say, is still marginal. It is the adoption of Al in the software development lifecycle from an engineering perspective. That is still very much early days right now. It is not fully mainstream.”

    Analyst questioned the long-term viability of Sonata's business model given AI's increasing capability in code generation. Management acknowledged AI adoption in some areas but downplayed its current impact on core software development, citing security/compliance concerns.

    asked by Mihir Manohar

    3 min read7 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

    01

    Q4 FY25 Financial Performance and Segment Overview

    Sonata Software reported a consolidated revenue of ₹2,617.2 crores for Q4 FY25, marking a 19.4% YoY growth but a 7.9% QoQ degrowth. International Services revenue stood at $81.3 million, experiencing a 6.6% QoQ degrowth and 0.5% YoY degrowth. Despite the sequential revenue decline, International Services EBITDA margin improved to 16.5% in Q4 FY25. The Domestic Business also saw a QoQ degrowth of 9.1% to ₹1,918.2 crores, though it achieved a 26.6% YoY growth. Consolidated PAT before exceptional items📎 was ₹107.5 crores, up 2.4% QoQ.

    02

    Strategic Focus, Large Deal Wins, and AI Integration

    The company's strategy centers on being a differentiated modernization engineering firm, powered by its platformation framework and AI-driven solutions. Sonata secured a significant $73 million deal with a leading American TMT company, marking its second-largest TCP win. This deal involves a comprehensive modernization program across platforms, data services, and cybersecurity, expected to ramp up over the next two to three quarters. Sonata also achieved AWS Generative AI Competency and became a member of the Microsoft Partner AI Council, with AI-enabled services projected to contribute 20% of revenue over the next three years.

    03

    Vertical Performance and Growth Outlook

    Sonata deepened capabilities in data, AI, and modernization engineering, expanding its presence in BFSI and healthcare life sciences. These two verticals now contribute 35% of international business revenue, up from 13% twelve quarters ago, and are targeted to scale to $250 million in 3-5 years. The newly established SOC business in SITL is projected to contribute 20% of growth within the next three to five years. However, the company faced headwinds in retail and manufacturing verticals, with anticipated degrowth in Q1 and Q2 FY26.

    04

    Talent and Operational Metrics

    Sonata's active headcount increased to over 6,800, up from 6,619 in Q1 FY25. The LTM attrition rate remained stable at 14%, and gender diversity stood at 31%. Utilization remained flat at 87% QoQ. The onsite-offshore mix shifted to 51% onsite and 49% offshore in Q4, compared to 56% onsite and 44% offshore in Q3 FY25. The company onboarded 95 campus graduates during the quarter, demonstrating continued investment in talent despite macroeconomic uncertainties.

    05

    Q1 FY26 Outlook and Margin Trajectory

    Management expects Q1 FY26 to be a flat to marginally growth quarter for international IT business, with a return to more significant growth from Q2 onwards. The recovery in Banking Financial Services is anticipated from Q4 to Q1, with full recovery expected in Q2. Margin improvement is projected to be delayed by at least one quarter, contingent on revenue growth and the turnaround of the largest client. The company is factoring in degrowth for the retail sector in Q1 and Q2 FY26.

    06

    Debt Management and RBI Procedural Issue

    The Board decided to prioritize debt repayment for the Quant acquisition to manage cash flow and reduce interest costs. However, a procedural issue with the RBI prevented Sonata from remitting money from India for debt repayment. Management expects this RBI issue to be resolved in approximately one quarter, which will allow them to proceed with debt reduction efforts.

    07

    Domestic Business Strategy and OEM Risk

    For the domestic business, Sonata focuses on absolute gross contribution growth and maintaining ROCE above 40%, rather than margin percentage, due to evolving product mix and OEM offerings. An analyst raised concerns about a large OEM potentially going direct to Sonata's clients, which management acknowledged as an emergent view. Sonata has taken measures to manage this risk and will monitor the OEM's execution over the next few quarters.

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