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    Thaai

    TCL
    Automobile and Auto Components·4 Jun 2025
    Management Summary

    Thaai Casting Limited reported robust financial results for FY25, with strong revenue and profit growth. The company significantly bolstered its order book to ₹520 crores and is actively expanding capacity and diversifying into new segments like wind energy (gear shaping, nitriding) and defense. However, the call highlighted analyst concerns regarding the increasing debt levels, the impact of high depreciation on profitability, and a downward revision of future revenue and margin guidance, indicating a more conservative outlook for the coming fiscal years.

    Highlights

    5
    • FY25 consolidated revenue reached ₹122.21 crores, with an EBITDA of ₹30.5 crores and a net profit of ₹11.05 crores.

    • The order book significantly expanded to ₹520 crores, including recent wins of ₹126.53 crores for automotive/non-automotive and ₹12.43 crores for building/construction.

    • New die casting capacity allows for components up to 10 kg, adding 2,000 metric tons to annual consumption, bringing total capacity to ~4,500 metric tons.

    • The company is diversifying into the defense segment, having registered as a vendor and initiated sampling, targeting entry this year.

    • Management aims for 40% year-on-year growth and expects to be cash flow positive every year going forward.

    Concerns

    4
    • Analysts raised concerns about the sustainability of rising debt, with a maximum target of ₹120-130 crores, especially with an additional ₹127 crores CAPEX planned.

    • High depreciation from new capital-intensive projects is expected to significantly impact PAT margins in the initial 5-7 years.

    • Management revised down FY26 revenue guidance from ₹195 crores to ₹170-180 crores, and FY27 revenue guidance from ₹270-280 crores to ₹230-240 crores, also lowering FY27 EBITDA margin expectations from 34% to 23-25%.

    • Management was evasive regarding specific margin numbers for the service business and the interest rates on promoter loans.

    What Changed2

    vs Q2 FY26

    Guidance items7 → 10 (+3)Risks discussed3 → 4 (+1)
    Key financials

    Metrics

    6

    Periods

    2

    Headline

    3
    • H2 FY25 Revenue
      ₹68.75 Cr
    • H2 FY25 EBITDA
      ₹16.08 Cr
    • H2 FY25 Net Profit
      ₹5.68 Cr

    FY25

    3
    • Revenue
      ₹122.21 Cr
    • EBITDA
      ₹30.5 Cr
    • Net Profit
      ₹11.05 Cr

    Order Book

    high confidence

    Total Value

    ₹ 520 crores

    as of 2025-06-04

    quantified

    Execution

    executable over a period of four to five years

    "The company has a robust order book with significant new wins, providing strong visibility for future revenue."

    Source:
    Prepared remarks

    Capital allocation

    2
    high confidence
    CategoryHeadline
    Capex

    ₹127 crores

    Partly internal accruals, balance through debt

    Debt

    Gross ₹85 crores

    Cost 10.0%

    Guidance & targets

    10
    CategoryTargetPriority
    Revenue
    Automotive Revenue Contribution
    minimum 50%
    High
    Revenue
    FY26 Revenue
    ₹170-180 crores
    High
    Revenue
    Nitriding Revenue (3 machines)
    ₹12 crores
    High
    Revenue
    Gear Shaping Revenue (initial)
    ₹40-45 crores
    High
    Revenue
    Nitriding Revenue (6 furnaces)
    ₹24 crores
    High
    Revenue
    YoY Growth
    40%
    Medium
    Revenue
    FY27 Revenue
    ₹230-240 crores
    High
    Revenue
    Wind Project Annual Turnover
    ₹40-45 crores
    High
    Capacity
    Die Casting Capacity Utilization
    almost 100%
    High
    Profitability
    FY27 EBITDA Margin
    23-25%
    High

    Promoter Loan Interest Rate Disclosure

    next quarter
    CurrentUndisclosed
    TargetDisclosure of interest rate

    Why it matters

    Transparency on related-party transactions and cost of capital is important for investor confidence.

    Can I check and come back through mail or something?

    How to verify

    capital_allocation.debt.actions

    Risks & concerns

    4
    RiskSeverity

    High Debt Levels

    Analysts questioned the sustainability of increasing debt, with management targeting a maximum of ₹120-130 crores.Analyst acknowledged

    medium

    Impact of Depreciation on PAT Margins

    High depreciation from new capital-intensive projects is expected to significantly impact PAT margins for the initial 5-7 years.Analyst acknowledged

    medium

    Aggressive Revenue Targets and Revisions

    Management revised down FY26 and FY27 revenue guidance, indicating potential challenges in achieving earlier aggressive targets.Analyst acknowledged

    medium

    Lack of Transparency on Specific Margins and Promoter Loans

    Management avoided providing specific margin details for service business and interest rates on promoter loans.Analyst deflected

    low

    Q&A highlights

    8

    “Sir, it would be between 23%, 25% sir, so same level EBITDA we are expecting in future also. But on the revenue guidance Rs. 270 crores seem to be too aggressive. So, Rs. 170 crores when we close next year, so 40%, whatever Mr. Anandan committed, it will be around Rs. 230 crores, Rs. 240 crores, it will not be Rs. 270 crores.”

    Management significantly revised down both revenue and EBITDA margin guidance for FY27, indicating a more conservative outlook than previously suggested.

    asked by Chirag

    2 min read6 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

    01

    FY25 Financial Performance Overview

    Thaai Casting Limited reported a strong financial performance for the full year FY25, with consolidated revenue reaching ₹122.21 crores. The company achieved an EBITDA of ₹30.5 crores and a net profit of ₹11.05 crores for the fiscal year. For the second half of FY25, consolidated revenue was ₹68.75 crores, EBITDA ₹16.08 crores, and net profit ₹5.68 crores, demonstrating consistent growth.

    02

    Robust Order Book and New Wins

    The company's order book has significantly expanded to ₹520 crores as of the call date. This includes an initial robust order book of ₹386.83 crores as of September 30, 2024, further bolstered by recent wins of ₹126.53 crores for various automotive and non-automotive products, and ₹12.43 crores for building and construction partners. This substantial order book provides revenue visibility with an execution timeline estimated at 4-5 years.

    03

    Capacity Expansion and Diversification Strategy

    Thaai Casting is actively expanding its manufacturing capabilities and diversifying its product portfolio. New die casting machines have been installed, enabling the production of heavier components up to 10 kg and adding 2,000 metric tons to annual consumption, bringing total die casting capacity to approximately 4,500 metric tons. The company is also making strategic inroads into the defense segment, having registered as a vendor and commenced sampling, targeting commercial entry within the coming year.

    04

    Investment in Wind Energy and Solar Power

    A significant portion of the planned CAPEX is directed towards the wind energy sector, including gear shaping operations with an initial revenue potential of ₹40-45 crores (service only) and nitriding processes. The company plans to have six nitriding furnaces operational by FY27, projected to generate ₹24 crores in annual revenue. Additionally, Thaai Casting is investing approximately ₹15 crores in a 3 MW solar energy project, aiming to reduce electricity costs and improve cash flow, with an expected payback period of 4.5-5 years.

    05

    Capital Expenditure and Debt Management

    The company plans to complete its entire CAPEX of approximately ₹127 crores in FY26, covering gear shaping, nitriding furnaces, and the solar project. While advances have been paid through internal accruals, the remaining funding will be sourced through debt. Management stated a maximum debt target of ₹120-130 crores, with the current average cost of debt at around 10%, and aims to maintain this rate through favorable financing terms.

    06

    Revised Revenue and Margin Outlook

    Management provided revised guidance for future performance. The FY26 revenue target was adjusted to ₹170-180 crores, down from an earlier ₹195 crores. For FY27, the revenue guidance was revised to ₹230-240 crores, a reduction from the previous ₹270-280 crores, and the EBITDA margin expectation was lowered from 34% to 23-25%. Management acknowledged that the capital-intensive nature of the industry would lead to significant depreciation, impacting PAT margins in the initial 5-7 years post-CAPEX.

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