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    Earnings call· Dec 2025(Q4 FY25)

    Andersen Group Q4 FY25 earnings call ANDG

    Mar 17, 2026 Source

    Executive summary

    Andersen Group Q4 FY25 — Strong Revenue Growth and Strategic Acquisitions

    Andersen Group delivered a strong Q4 FY25, marked by significant revenue growth across all segments and substantial adjusted profitability expansion, reinforcing its resilient business model. The company is strategically focused on productivity, profitability, and integration, while actively pursuing inorganic growth through targeted acquisitions of long-standing network affiliates. Despite GAAP losses driven by IPO-related equity restructuring, management maintains a conservative yet optimistic outlook, anticipating elevated guidance for FY26 as strategic initiatives and technology integration progress.

    Highlights

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    • Q4 FY25 revenue reached $170.3 million, a 19.6% year-over-year increase, exceeding internal expectations.

    • FY25 adjusted net income was $217 million, representing a 48% increase year-over-year, or 64% on a pro forma basis excluding startup losses.

    • Adjusted EBITDA margin expanded by 75 basis points to 27.7% for FY25.

    • Net cash flow from operations increased 21% year-over-year to $184.6 million in FY25.

    • Secured $21 million in inorganic revenue from 4 strategic acquisitions, already exceeding initial H2 FY26 projections.

    Concerns

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    • GAAP net loss of $195.9 million in Q4 FY25 and $130.2 million for FY25 due to one-off equity restructuring costs and IPO-related expenses.

    • Anticipated net loss and negative EPS for FY26 primarily due to non-cash equity-based compensation expense.

    • Global Mobility and Consulting businesses are expected to incur losses for the next two years due to continued investment in infrastructure.

    Guidance & targets

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    CategoryTargetConfidence
    Full-year 2026 Revenue
    $955 million to $970 million
    high materiality
    Medium
    Full-year 2026 Adjusted EBITDA
    $213 million to $220 million
    high materiality
    Medium
    Full-year 2026 Net Income
    Net loss expected
    high materiality
    High
    Q1 2026 Revenue
    $230 million to $235 million
    medium materiality
    Medium
    Q1 2026 Adjusted EBITDA
    $55 million to $60 million
    medium materiality
    Medium
    Technology Surcharge
    3%
    medium materiality
    High

    Segment performance

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    SegmentRevenueYoYQoQMargin
    Private Client Services
    Largest service line, representing 51.5% of total revenue in FY25. Achieved double-digit growth in Q4 FY25.
    51.5%double-digit growth
    Commercial
    Achieved double-digit growth in Q4 FY25.
    double-digit growth
    Alternative Investment Funds
    Achieved double-digit growth in Q4 FY25.
    double-digit growth
    Valuation
    Achieved double-digit growth in Q4 FY25.
    double-digit growth
    Andersen Consulting
    Combined revenue growth of approximately 38% in 2025 (with Global Mobility). Expected to lose money for the next two years due to continued investment in infrastructure. Lost $22 million combined with Global Mobility in FY25.
    38% combined growthloss expected
    Global Mobility
    Combined revenue growth of approximately 38% in 2025 (with Andersen Consulting). Expected to lose money for the next two years due to continued investment in infrastructure. Lost $22 million combined with Andersen Consulting in FY25.
    38% combined growthloss expected

    Operational metrics

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    Revenue
    $170.3 million19.6% year-over-year increase
    Q4 FY25

    Exceeded internal expectations and analyst projection of $157 million. Driven by higher client fees and volume, notably in December.

    Revenue
    $838.7 million14.6% year-over-year increase
    FY25

    Reinforces enduring nature of the firm's business model and ongoing demand for core services. Growth was well diversified across all regions and service lines.

    GAAP Net Loss
    $195.9 millionvs -$9.7 million in Q4 FY24
    Q4 FY25

    Primarily due to one-off equity restructuring costs of $193.2 million and other IPO-related expenses.

    GAAP Net Loss Per Share (Diluted)
    $0.22
    Q4 FY25

    Resulting from the GAAP net loss.

    Adjusted Net Income
    $7.5 millionvs -$8.4 million in Q4 FY24
    Q4 FY25

    Reflects strong underlying performance with margin expansion.

    Adjusted EBITDA
    $9.4 millionvs -$7.9 million in Q4 FY24
    Q4 FY25

    Reflects strong underlying performance with margin expansion of more than 100 basis points.

    GAAP Net Loss
    $130.2 million
    FY25

    Primarily due to $193 million one-off equity restructuring charge and stock-based compensation expense leading up to the IPO.

    Adjusted Net Income
    $217 million
    FY25

    Highlights operating leverage in the business model.

    Adjusted EBITDA
    $226.3 million59% year-over-year increase
    FY25

    Highlights operating leverage in the business model.

    Capital Expenditures
    $10.6 million
    FY25

    Primarily related to non-strategic technology investments, aligned to long-term growth strategy.

    Cash and Equivalents
    $258.5 million
    as of Dec 31, 2025

    No third-party debt, providing significant flexibility to support growth.

    Client Groups generating over $250k revenue
    687up from 629 in 2024
    FY25

    Healthy growth in the number of high-revenue client groups.

    Active Client Groups (net increase)
    6505.6% increase
    FY25

    Net increase, excluding previously active clients that became inactive.

    Client Engagements (expansion)
    10.6%
    FY25

    Expansion in the number of client engagements with active client groups.

    Average Rate per Hour
    11%year-over-year increase
    FY25

    Confirming the firm's ongoing ability to increase pricing.

    Total Headcount
    5%
    FY25

    Increase in total headcount.

    Voluntary Attrition Rate (staff teams)
    14%in line with 2024
    FY25

    Consistent attrition rate for staff teams.

    Net Income Growth
    48%
    FY25

    Pro forma growth of 64% excludes $22 million in losses from startup businesses (Mobility and Consulting). Actual net income of $199 million exceeded the plan of $175 million.

    GS&A Growth
    3% or more
    last year

    Targeting reduction through economies of scale and effective functional area management.

    Pricing Growth (5 years)
    44%
    5 years

    Reflects consistent pricing power over time.

    Technology Surcharge Client Adoption
    2/3vs 50% expectation
    current

    Tracking better than expected, with some clients given a year before implementation.

    Productivity Initiative Impact
    $42 million
    this year

    Expected addition to net income from productivity improvements.

    Consulting and Global Mobility Combined Losses
    $22 million
    FY25

    Losses incurred as these are startup businesses requiring infrastructure investment.

    Consulting and Global Mobility Planned Loss Reduction
    $7 million lessvs FY25
    FY26

    Anticipated reduction in combined losses for these businesses in FY26.

    GAAP Effective Tax Rate
    -2.4%
    FY25

    Negative effective tax rate due to GAAP net loss.

    Revenue Seasonality (Core Tax Q1)
    25%
    Q1

    Historical revenue generation pattern for the core tax business.

    Revenue Seasonality (Core Tax Q2)
    21%
    Q2

    Historical revenue generation pattern for the core tax business.

    Revenue Seasonality (Core Tax Q3)
    34%
    Q3

    Historical revenue generation pattern for the core tax business; Q3 is a bellwether quarter, generating significantly more than 50% of annual net income.

    Revenue Seasonality (Core Tax Q4)
    20%
    Q4

    Historical revenue generation pattern for the core tax business; Q4 often reported as a loss period.

    Leverage Model (Current)
    2.5:1
    current

    Current leverage model in the U.S.

    Leverage Model (Future Target)
    3 to 3.5:1
    future

    Expected change in leverage model due to technology and productivity improvements.

    Inorganic Revenue (H2 FY26 Plan)
    $33 million
    H2 FY26

    Initial plan for inorganic revenue contribution in the second half of FY26.

    Inorganic Revenue (from signed deals)
    $21 million
    H2 FY26

    Revenue from 4 recently signed deals, effective April 1, contributing to the H2 FY26 inorganic revenue target.

    Deals & partnerships

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    Canada practice (Vancouver)Acquisition of a Private Client Services (PCS) focused practice in West Canada, based in Vancouver, led by Steve Flynn and Christa Rabadu.

    The group was originally Ernst & Young and has been part of Andersen's network for over 7 years, with strong synergy with the U.S. business.

    Nigeria tax practiceAcquisition of a tax practice in Nigeria, led by Leah, who is also the co-managing partner in charge of Africa.

    Leah was a director at Arthur Andersen. The practice grew from 13 to 128 people since joining the network. This acquisition prioritizes global management integration.

    Uruguay legal practiceAcquisition of a legal practice in Uruguay, led by Juan Federico Fischer.

    Juan Federico Fischer is also on the global Board of Andersen's Swiss Vine. The group has been with Andersen for over 8 years.

    Uruguay tax practiceAcquisition of a tax and accounting practice in Uruguay, led by Cecilia Riciardi.

    The group has been with Andersen for over 8 years.

    Risks & headwinds

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    GAAP Net Loss due to Equity RestructuringQ4 FY25 and FY25

    $195.9 million in Q4 FY25; $130.2 million for FY25

    Mitigation: These are one-off, non-cash accounting-driven charges primarily related to IPO-related equity restructuring costs ($193.2 million) and stock-based compensation, with no impact on company operations.

    Negative EPS and Net Loss in FY26FY26

    Net loss and negative EPS expected

    Mitigation: Primarily due to non-cash equity-based compensation expense associated with the vesting of Class X aggregator units, which has no impact on company operations.

    Startup Business LossesNext 2 years

    $22 million combined loss in FY25

    Mitigation: Global Mobility and Consulting are strategic investments in infrastructure and are expected to continue incurring losses for the next two years as they scale. Management views this as a measured approach to long-term growth.

    Regulatory Problems from AI Implementation

    Fines by regulators for incorrect AI solutions observed in two international firms

    Mitigation: Andersen is taking a measured, thoughtful, and deliberate approach to AI adoption, conducting pilot programs and evaluating multiple solutions to avoid precipitous actions and regulatory pitfalls.

    Pricing Pressure in Commodity Service Areas

    Pushback on pricing in scenarios where service models are competitive and clients seek multiple proposals

    Mitigation: The firm aims to avoid commodity-driven spaces and focus on high-value solutions where it can drive significant client benefits and justify premium pricing. It is also implementing a 3% technology surcharge.

    What to watch in Q1 FY26

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    FY26 Revenue Guidance Revision

    Next quarter (Q1 FY26 earnings call)
    Current$955M-$970M
    TargetElevated from current range

    Why it matters

    Management explicitly stated they would elevate guidance, indicating potential for stronger performance than initially projected.

    I will tell you that when we have this call in a couple of months and cover our first quarter financials, I would anticipate because we've already gone through a few drafts, we're having conversations with outside directors on, we will elevate both the revenue objectives as well as the adjusted EBITDA objectives.

    Q&A highlights

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    Inquired about the sustainability of Q4's 19.6% revenue growth momentum into FY26 and if the current FY26 guidance is conservative given various initiatives and strong recurring revenue trends.

    Mark Vorsatz stated that the company operates conservatively and expects to elevate FY26 revenue and adjusted EBITDA objectives in the next quarter's earnings call, implying current guidance is conservative. He noted strong recurring revenue growth in Q3/Q4 2025 (18% in September, 17% in October) as indicators. He also highlighted significant interest in acquisitions, expecting to 'substantially outperform' the $33 million inorganic revenue target.

    I would say, when we have this conversation in a couple of months on first quarter, we will elevate those numbers. I'm not going to get into specifics. I'm just going to generally say that we are further ahead of where I had anticipated that we would be.

    asked by Mark Marcon · answered by Mark Vorsatz

    3 min read6 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

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    Q4 and FY25 Financial Highlights

    Mark Vorsatz highlighted Q4 FY25 revenue of $170 million, a 19.6% increase, surpassing the analyst projection of $157 million. FY25 revenue reached $839 million, growing 14.6%. Net income for FY25 was $199 million, a 48% increase, or 64% on a pro forma basis excluding startup losses from Mobility and Consulting. All four business segments (Private Client Services, Commercial, Alternative Investment Funds, Valuation) achieved double-digit growth. The company's average revenue growth over 24 years has been 15%, and average net income growth over the last 8 private years has been over 25%.

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    Strategic Focus for 2026

    The company will focus on productivity, led by Dan DePaoli, aiming to add $42 million to net income by improving client service by one hour per week. Profitability and cost control, led by Peter Kasha, will target reducing GS&A by 1% annually from the current high 14s to 18%. Integration efforts, spearheaded by James Frost, will focus on leveraging the global platform for cross-client solutions. The company's culture, underscored by 100% partner unanimity in unvesting 59% of equity, is seen as a key differentiator.

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    Acquisition Strategy and Recent Deals

    Andersen Group is selectively rolling up its network affiliates, prioritizing groups with established relationships and strategic alignment. Four deals were recently signed, including practices in West Canada (Vancouver), Nigeria (tax), and Uruguay (legal and tax), totaling 270 people and $21 million in revenue. These deals, effective April 1, already contribute significantly to the $33 million inorganic revenue projected for H2 FY26. The strategy emphasizes cost-effectiveness and deep familiarity with acquired teams, with many more conversations in process.

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    Technology as a Competitive Advantage

    The company views technology, not just AI, as a massive opportunity. Pilot programs with Anthropic are underway, with a measured and thoughtful approach to implementation to avoid regulatory issues observed with other firms. The goal is to increase the leverage model from 2.5:1 to 3-3.5:1, enhancing productivity of senior staff and potentially shifting hiring towards lateral hires. The firm expects technology to significantly change its business model over the next 3 to 4 years, driving greater value and profitability.

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    Value-Driven Client Solutions

    Mark Vorsatz emphasized client selection and value solutions, citing examples like securing 64 cost segregation projects in Q4, one of which saved a client $19 million in front-end costs. Other initiatives include cybersecurity for family offices (230 qualified introductions in two months), tax transformation, and tariff refund services. The firm also highlighted opportunities arising from potential wealth taxes in various US states, such as California's proposed 5% tax on net worth over $1 billion, Senator Sanders' bill on unrealized appreciation, and New York's proposed 90% increase in inheritance tax, leveraging its technical capabilities and national resources.

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    Seasonal Business Pattern

    Neal Livingstone detailed the seasonal nature of the business, driven by tax filing deadlines. Historically, the core tax business generates approximately 25% of revenue in Q1, 21% in Q2, 34% in Q3, and 20% in Q4. Q3 is a bellwether quarter, historically generating significantly more than 50%, sometimes up to 2/3, of annual net income, while Q4 can often be a loss period. This seasonality necessitates conservatism in projections for earlier quarters.

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