Avalon Tech — Q3 FY25 earnings call

Call held 6 Feb 2025

Management summary

Avalon Technologies reported a strong Q3 FY25, driven by robust revenue growth and significant margin expansion, leading to a substantial increase in PAT. The company raised its full-year FY25 revenue and gross margin guidance, reflecting accelerating momentum from both US customer recovery and expanding Indian market presence. Strategic investments in capacity and a diversified business model are positioning Avalon for sustained profitable growth, despite ongoing political uncertainties in the US.

Highlights

  • Revenue grew by 31.1% YoY to ₹281 crores in Q3 FY25.

  • EBITDA margin expanded by 462 bps YoY to 12.3% in Q3 FY25.

  • PAT increased by 264.9% YoY to ₹24 crores in Q3 FY25.

  • FY25 revenue growth guidance raised to 22-24% (from 16-20%).

  • FY25 gross margin guidance raised to 34-36% (from 33-35%).

  • Order book grew 25% YoY to ₹1,594 crores as of December 31, 2024.

  • Net working capital days improved from 161 days (Mar '24) to 150 days (Dec '24).

  • India operations (88% of revenue) reported 15% EBITDA margin and 10.8% PAT margin.

Key financials

2 periods

Headline

  • Revenue
    ₹281 Cr
    YoY +31.1%
  • Gross Margin
    37.3%
  • EBITDA
    ₹34.6 Cr
    YoY +110%
  • EBITDA Margin
    12.3%
  • PAT
    ₹24 Cr
    YoY +264.9%
  • PAT Margin
    8.2%
  • Order Book
    ₹1,594 Cr
    YoY +25%
  • Long-term Contracts
    ₹1,111 Cr
    YoY +32%
  • Net Working Capital Days
    150 days
  • CAPEX Q3 FY25
    ₹11.3 Cr
  • CAPEX 9M FY25
    ₹32.7 Cr

9M

  • FY25 Revenue
    ₹755 Cr
    YoY +16.1%

What they filed

Q1 FY27: revenue up 49.8%, net profit up 150.0% against the same quarter last year.

₹ Cr · quarterly
Line itemQ2 FY25Q3 FY25Q4 FY25Q1 FY26Q2 FY26Q3 FY26Q4 FY26Q1 FY27
Revenue275 281 343 323 382 +39%418 +49%480 +40%484 +50%
EBITDA30 35 41 30 39 +30%48 +37%57 +39%58 +93%
Net profit17 24 24 14 25 +47%33 +38%41 +71%35 +150%
How to read this

₹ crore, as filed. The percentage beside a figure is the change against the same quarter a year earlier — never the quarter before, which would make every seasonal business look like it collapses and booms each year.

Segment breakdown

  • India Operations
    88% Revenue Share Q3 FY2515% EBITDA Margin Q3 FY2510.8% PAT Margin Q3 FY25
  • US Operations
    12% Revenue Share Q3 FY25₹3.4 Cr Net Loss Q3 FY25
  • Q3 FY25 Industry Growth
    53% Clean Energy Growth10% Mobility Growth57% Industrial Growth

Guidance & targets

Revenue

  • FY25 Revenue Growth Revenue · FY25 · High confidence 22-24%

    Previously 16-20%22-24%

    Now, we are further increasing our FY 2025 revenue growth guidance to 22% to 24%.

    — Mr. Kunhamed Bicha, Chairman and Managing Director

Margin

  • FY25 Gross Margin Margin · FY25 · High confidence 34-36%

    Previously 33-35%34-36%

    Given our progress this financial year, we are now increasing our FY 2025 gross margin guidance to 34% to 36%.

    — Mr. Kunhamed Bicha, Chairman and Managing Director

Working Capital

  • Net Working Capital Days Working Capital · by end of FY25 · High confidence 10-15 days improvement
    Despite a temporary increase in our net working capital days from 134 days in September 2024, we remain confident meeting our original guidance of 10 days to 15 days improvement by the end of this fiscal year.

    — Mr. Kunhamed Bicha, Chairman and Managing Director

Capex

  • Annual CAPEX Capex · foreseeable future · High confidence ₹40-45 crores
    And we have always said for the next couple of years, we will need a CAPEX of around Rs. 40 crores to Rs. 45 crores. And we are maintaining that because we always believe that we should operate in an asset turns of 8% to 10%. That's always been our goal.

    — Mr. Kunhamed Bicha, Chairman and Managing Director

Asset Utilization

  • Asset Turns Asset Utilization · ongoing · High confidence 8-10 times
    And we are maintaining that because we always believe that we should operate in an asset turns of 8% to 10%. That's always been our goal.

    — Mr. Kunhamed Bicha, Chairman and Managing Director

Profitability

  • US Plant Profitability Profitability · next 12-18 months · Medium confidence PAT-positive
    And today, as the losses have reduced, I think it's in a state where I think in the next 12 months to 18 months, you could possibly see some positive numbers out of there.

    — Mr. Kunhamed Bicha, Chairman and Managing Director

Sales Mix

  • India vs. Export Sales Mix Sales Mix · long-term · Medium confidence 50% India, 50% Export
    Our goal has always been to get the company to be 50% in India and 50% outside India.

    — Mr. Kunhamed Bicha, Chairman and Managing Director

Risks & concerns

  • US Political Uncertainty (Trump administration policies, tariffs)

    medium

    Management stated they are covered both ways (US/India manufacturing) and their goal is to move production to India where cost prevails. The US plant acts as a 'beachhead' and 'insurance policy'.

    Analyst acknowledged

  • Project Execution & Complexity

    medium

    Management identified timing complex, engineering-intensive projects (₹1-2 crores sellable per product) with long lead times as the 'toughest part of the business to manage' due to significant engineering content and new product introductions.

    Management acknowledged

  • Working Capital Management (temporary increase in receivable days)

    low

    Receivable days increased from 80 (Sep '24) to 94 (Dec '24), but management stated this is a 'temporary phenomenon' due to increased sales from large MNCs, with collections already happening in early January.

    Analyst acknowledged

Areas of evasion (2)

  • Long-term specific revenue/PAT targets beyond FY25
  • Precise breakeven timeline for US operations

Q&A highlights

3 direct
Margin sustainability and US operations profitability timeline Direct
We believe that we have always maintained between 33% and 35% as the margin we target. But certain years, we may be higher like this year. We hope to do better than that, but we target between 33% and 35% as the gross margin between the two geographies.

Asked by Rahul Gajare

Impact of US political changes (Trump) on clean energy business and manufacturing strategy Direct
I think there's always been confusion that we are in the solar side, a very small portion of our business is in the solar side, which could get affected in the U.S. But we are on the storage side, which is storing energy. So, that is growing between 50% and 70% in the U.S. year-over-year. And we are also in different other clean energy products apart from solar.

Asked by Rahul Gajare

Cash flow from operations and working capital management Direct
Approximately it will be negative Rs. 10.6 crores on a nine months basis. ... It is just in this quarter with the increasing receivables, we saw that. But with the increasing sales and a positive operating leverage, I think in the coming quarters, we should start seeing that.

Asked by Karan Sanwal

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Detailed narrative

Strong Q3 FY25 Performance and Upgraded FY25 Guidance

Avalon Technologies delivered a robust Q3 FY25, with revenues growing by 31.1% year-over-year to ₹281 crores, marking its highest-ever quarterly revenue. This strong performance translated into significant profitability improvements, with EBITDA increasing by 110% year-over-year to ₹34.6 crores and PAT surging by 264.9% to ₹24 crores. Consequently, the company raised its FY25 revenue growth guidance to 22-24% (from 16-20%) and its gross margin guidance to 34-36% (from 33-35%), reflecting strong confidence in its accelerating momentum.

Expanding Margins Driven by Operating Leverage

The company's gross margin percentage improved to 37.3% in Q3 FY25, up 48 basis points from 36.8% in Q3 FY24. This, combined with effective cost management, led to a substantial expansion in EBITDA margin to 12.3% (up 462 basis points YoY) and PAT margin to 8.2% (up 521 basis points YoY). Management attributed this to the benefits of operating leverage becoming evident as revenue grows, given that a significant portion of its cost structure remains fixed, contributing to enhanced profitability.

Robust Order Book and Strategic Capacity Expansion

Avalon's order book grew by 25% year-over-year, reaching ₹1,594 crores as of December 31, 2024, with an average execution period of 12-14 months. Long-term contracts, extending beyond 14 months, also increased by 32% year-over-year to ₹1,111 crores. To support this growth, the Chennai export plant is fully operational, and Phase 1 of the brownfield expansion in Chennai for the domestic market is complete, with Phase 2 expected to begin within 1-2 quarters. The company plans an annual CAPEX of ₹40-45 crores for the foreseeable future, maintaining asset turns of 8-10 times.

Diversified Growth Across Geographies and Verticals

The company highlighted broad-based growth, with India contributing 45% (₹125 crores) and the US 55% (₹156 crores) to Q3 FY25 revenue. India operations remain highly profitable with a 15% EBITDA margin and 10.8% PAT margin. While the US plant reported a net loss of ₹3.4 crores, this is an improvement from ₹14 crores loss in Q1 FY25, and management expects it to turn profitable in 12-18 months. Key growth drivers include industrial (57% YoY), clean energy (53% YoY), and mobility (10% YoY) sectors, with rail business scaling up well in India.

Working Capital Management and Cash Flow Outlook

Net working capital days improved from 161 days in March 2024 to 150 days in December 2024. Despite a temporary increase in trade receivables from 80 days (Sep '24) to 94 days (Dec '24) due to higher sales, management is confident of achieving its target of reducing net working capital days by 10-15 days by FY25 end, noting that these receivables are from large MNCs and were largely collected in early January. Cash flow from operations for 9M FY25 was negative ₹10.6 crores, but is expected to turn positive in coming quarters with increasing sales and operating leverage.

Strategic Approach to US Market and Political Risks

Avalon views its US manufacturing presence as a 'beachhead' and 'insurance policy' against potential political shifts or tariffs, allowing flexibility in production location. While the goal is to move production to India for cost efficiency, the US facility is crucial for prototypes, engineering interactions, and large products where transportation costs are prohibitive. Management noted that their clean energy business is primarily in energy storage (growing 50-70% YoY in the US), not rooftop solar, mitigating concerns about potential policy changes impacting solar.

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