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    Havells India Q4 FY25 earnings call

    HAVELLS
    Consumer Durables·22 Apr 2025
    Management Summary

    Havells India reported a decent Q4 FY25, driven by strong performance in large appliances and cables, and a significant turnaround for Lloyd. Despite persistent inflationary pressures and commodity price volatility, the company is focused on consistent revenue growth, margin improvement, and strategic investments in solar and capacity expansion. The delayed summer, however, impacted cooling product sales.

    Highlights

    5
    • Overall decent performance in Q4 with healthy revenue and profit growth.

    • Large appliances and cables led the revenue growth.

    • Lloyd delivered a robust performance with strong revenue growth and margin improvement, achieving INR 100 crores EBIT for the full year.

    • Ramp-up of new cable plant capacity is contributing to growth.

    • Havells expects operating leverage to kick in, aiming for normalized margin levels of 13-14.5%.

    Concerns

    5
    • Inflationary pressures persist on overall consumer sentiments.

    • Continued volatility in commodity prices, especially copper, remains an overhang on margins.

    • Delayed summer season impacted cooling product sales (fans, RACs) in Q4 and early Q1 FY26.

    • Industrial switchgear segment experienced muted/slower growth, particularly after elections.

    • Solar investment was partly driven by a lack of quality and quantity supplies, and import restrictions.

    What Changed3

    vs Q1 FY26

    Guidance items5 → 4 (-1)Risks discussed4 → 5 (+1)Q&A highlights6 → 8 (+2)

    Segment breakdown

    Lloyd
    ₹100 Cr EBIT (Full Year)
    Solar Business
    ₹400 Cr Revenue (Current)₹450 Cr Revenue (Current Range)
    Cables and Wires
    20% Growth50% Value Growth Share
    Switchgear
    38% Contribution Margin (Target)40% Contribution Margin (Target Range)75% Residential Share
    List

    Capital allocation

    1
    high confidence
    CategoryHeadline
    Capex

    ₹2,000 crores

    Guidance & targets

    4
    CategoryTargetPriority
    Profitability
    Havells Normalized Margin Levels
    13-14.5%
    High
    Capex
    Total Capex
    INR 2,000 crores
    High
    Growth
    Solar Business Growth
    many folds
    Medium
    Market Share
    ACs Market Share (Lloyd)
    grow market share
    Medium

    What to watch in Q1 FY26

    5

    Consumer Demand Recovery

    Next 75 days (for summer products), coming year (overall)
    CurrentSubdued, impacted by inflation
    TargetPicking up, aided by budget/RBI measures

    Why it matters

    Key driver for B2C segment growth and overall revenue performance.

    I would say that with the recent changes in the budget, hopefully💬, the consumer demand should start picking up.

    Risks & concerns

    5
    RiskSeverity

    Inflationary Pressures on Consumer Sentiments

    Inflationary pressures persist on the overall consumer sentiments, potentially impacting demand.Management acknowledged

    medium

    Commodity Price Volatility

    Continued volatility in commodity prices, particularly copper, remains an overhang and affects pricing and margins.Management acknowledged

    medium

    Delayed Summer Season Impact

    A delayed summer impacted cooling product sales in Q4 and early Q1, leading to muted growth in fans and potential impact on RAC primary sales.Management acknowledged

    medium

    Muted Industrial Demand

    Industrial demand, especially for industrial switchgear, was muted throughout the year due to elections.Management acknowledged

    low

    Solar Supply Chain Challenges

    The solar investment was partly prompted by a lack of quality and quantity supplies, and import restrictions in the market.Management acknowledged

    medium

    Q&A highlights

    8

    “So the product mix change leads to some variations in the contribution margin, but I don't think that should be taken as a normal level. It always depends upon the product mix in both wire and cable.”

    Analyst questioned margin compression in a key segment despite rising raw material prices, indicating potential product mix issues or pricing power challenges.

    asked by Natasha Jain

    3 min read7 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

    01

    Q4 FY25 Performance Overview

    Havells India reported a decent overall performance in Q4 FY25, characterized by healthy revenue and profit growth. This growth was primarily spearheaded by the large appliances and cables segments. However, the company noted that inflationary pressures continue to impact consumer sentiments, and the persistent volatility in commodity prices remains a significant overhang on overall margins.

    02

    Lloyd's Robust Turnaround and Future Investments

    The Lloyd brand delivered a robust performance, achieving a positive EBIT of INR 100 crores for the full financial year. This turnaround was driven by strong revenue growth and margin improvement initiatives. Management views Lloyd as a long-term growth engine for Havells and plans to continue investments in brand upliftment, R&D, and new product development, including a new plant for refrigerators. Over 50% of Lloyd's sales are now coming from modern retail channels, indicating a successful shift in distribution strategy.

    03

    Cables and Wires Segment Dynamics

    The cables and wires segment recorded approximately 20% growth in Q4, with nearly half of this growth attributed to value. The business composition remains around 65% wires. While demand for cables continues to be strong, the segment experienced significant fluctuations in raw material prices, particularly copper, over the last 3-4 months, which impacted both pricing and margins. Havells anticipates further industry consolidation towards branded, high-quality products and will continue its investments in brand building and distribution.

    04

    Switchgear Segment Performance

    Havells maintains a strong position in the residential switchgear business, which accounts for about 75% of its overall switchgear portfolio, and has seen market share gains in this higher-growth sector. The company aims for 38-40% contribution margins in this segment. Conversely, the industrial switchgear segment experienced muted or slower growth throughout the year, particularly after the elections, reflecting broader industrial demand trends.

    05

    Strategic Solar Investment and Growth Outlook

    Havells made a strategic investment of INR 600 crores in a solar panel manufacturer, which has helped build its solar business to INR 400-450 crores over the past 2-3 years, focusing on inverters, modules, and DC switchgears. This investment is aimed at securing supply and establishing a meaningful presence in the consumer-focused (residential, commercial & industrial) solar renewable market. Management expects this segment to grow multifold in the coming years, with a primary focus on faster business growth rather than immediate margin expansion.

    06

    Consumer Demand and Seasonal Impact

    Consumer demand remained subdued due to inflationary pressures and cash availability. While recent budget and RBI measures are expected to boost consumption, the summer season experienced a delayed start, particularly impacting cooling product sales (fans, RACs) in Q4 and early April. This led to muted growth in fans and a potential impact on Q1 primary sales for RACs, despite higher primary sales in Q4.

    07

    Capital Expenditure and Operating Leverage

    Havells plans a total capital expenditure of INR 2,000 crores over the next two years, which includes investment in a new R&D center. The company anticipates operating leverage to kick in for its core Havells business, aiming to restore normalized margin levels of 13-14.5%. For Lloyd, no significant capex is expected for the next couple of years following the refrigerator investment, with the focus remaining on achieving scale to realize operating leverage.

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