KDDL Ltd — Q4 FY24 earnings call

Call held 15 May 2024

Management summary

KDDL Ltd reported strong financial performance for Q4 and FY24, driven by robust growth in its Precision Engineering segment and a significant boost to PAT from the Ethos stake sale. The company is expanding its manufacturing capabilities with a new steel bracelet plant and a planned packaging facility, while also preparing for the global relaunch of the Favre Leuba watch brand. Management expressed confidence in long-term growth, particularly from exports and the 'China Plus One' strategy, despite some near-term slowdowns in global watch markets.

Highlights

  • Consolidated total income for FY24 grew 25% YoY to INR1,420 crores.

  • Consolidated EBITDA for FY24 increased 53% YoY to INR270 crores, with a margin of 19.5%.

  • Consolidated PAT for FY24 was INR137 crores, up 79% YoY.

  • Standalone PAT for FY24 reached INR220 crores, significantly boosted by Ethos stake sale proceeds.

  • Precision Engineering (Eigen) revenue grew 25% to INR95 crores in FY24, with a target of INR500 crores in the next few years at 20-25% CAGR.

  • New steel bracelet plant inaugurated with a capacity of 75,000 bracelets per year, with INR35 crores investment.

  • FY25 Capex is projected at INR45 crores for KDDL manufacturing units.

Concerns

  • Watch Components segment revenue grew 10% to INR247 crores in FY24, despite a Q4 slowdown.

Key financials

  1. Consolidated Total Income ₹1,420 Cr +25%YoY
  2. Consolidated EBITDA ₹270 Cr +53%YoY
  3. Consolidated EBITDA Margin 19.5%
  4. Consolidated PAT ₹137 Cr +79%YoY
  5. Standalone PAT ₹220 Cr +218.8%YoY

What they filed

Q1 FY27: revenue up 40.0%, net profit up 66.7% against the same quarter last year.

₹ Cr · quarterly
Line itemQ2 FY25Q3 FY25Q4 FY25Q1 FY26Q2 FY26Q3 FY26Q4 FY26Q1 FY27
Revenue92 97 99 110 123 +34%116 +20%147 +48%154 +40%
EBITDA21 22 16 21 25 +19%23 +5%39 +144%35 +67%
Net profit15 16 8 12 14 −7%30 +88%20 +150%20 +67%
How to read this

₹ crore, as filed. The percentage beside a figure is the change against the same quarter a year earlier — never the quarter before, which would make every seasonal business look like it collapses and booms each year.

Segment breakdown

Share of Revenue (FY24)
₹357 Cr Total
  • Watch Components ₹247 Cr 69.2%
  • Precision Engineering (Eigen) ₹95 Cr 26.6%
  • Ornamental Packaging ₹15 Cr 4.2%

Guidance & targets

Capacity

  • Steel Bracelets Production Capacity · High confidence 75,000
    We have a capacity of 75,000 bracelets per year.

    — Yashovardhan Saboo

Revenue

  • Packaging Segment Revenue Revenue · next 5 to 7 years · Medium confidence INR80-100 crores
    We believe that the Packaging segment will continue to show very handsome growth and develop into a INR80 crores to INR100 crores business over the next 5 to 7 years.

    — Yashovardhan Saboo

  • Precision Engineering (Eigen) Revenue Growth Revenue · several years to come · High confidence 20-25%
    And we believe that it should be possible to maintain this kind of growth in the 20% to 25% range on a CAGR basis for several years to come.

    — Yashovardhan Saboo

  • Precision Engineering (Eigen) Revenue Revenue · next couple of years · Medium confidence INR500 crores
    And it's not only an ambition, we see a very clear runway and a path to grow to a INR500 crores business over the next couple of years.

    — Yashovardhan Saboo

Capex

  • Packaging New Facility Cost Capex · High confidence INR8 crores
    For this segment, we are establishing a new facility near Chandigarh with a capacity of 1 million boxes at an estimated cost of INR8 crores.

    — Yashovardhan Saboo

  • KDDL Manufacturing Capex Capex · current running year (FY25) · High confidence INR45 crores
    And during the current running year, the KDDL expects capex of around INR45 crores for all our businesses.

    — Sanjeev Masown

Profitability

  • Estima Profitability Profitability · soon, delayed by about a year · Low confidence profitable
    We are confident that we will achieve profitability soon. But, because of the unexpected slowing down in the Swiss watch business, this turnaround will probably be delayed by about a year.

    — Yashovardhan Saboo

New Segment Entry

  • Watch Cases Manufacturing New Segment Entry · probably in FY '26 · Medium confidence
    And we believe, definitely not in FY '25, but probably in FY '26, we will move towards setting up, getting into the watch cases. It is definitely part of our strategy.

    — Yashovardhan Saboo

Market context

  • Favre Leuba Global Brand Establishment Brand Development · Medium confidence 3 to 5 years
    It's going to be a profitable business, but if you want to establish a global business, it's not going to happen overnight. It's going to be a 3 year to 5 year period to establish a brand globally and then to grow the brand...

    — Yashovardhan Saboo

Risks & concerns

  • Slowdown in global watch markets (China, Europe, Middle East)

    medium

    Geopolitical strains, uncertainty in USA, and sluggish Chinese demand predict subdued consumer sentiment for discretionary products, impacting watch component exports.

    Management acknowledged

  • Estima (Swiss factory) profitability delay

    medium

    Despite revenue growth and reduced losses, Estima is not yet profitable, with turnaround delayed by about a year due to unexpected slowing down in the Swiss watch business.

    Management acknowledged

  • Precision Engineering (Eigen) margins are lower than watch components

    low

    Margins in precision engineering are currently lower than watch components, which may slightly decrease overall blended margin as Eigen grows faster, but management expects improvement with specialization.

    Management acknowledged

Areas of evasion (1)

  • specific current order sizes for competitive reasons

Q&A highlights

3 direct
Bracelet Division and New Segments Direct
100% of the production will be exported. We have a capacity of 75,000 bracelets per year. It will take some time to reach this production level and sales because there are two reasons for that. A, a very high level of skill is involved... And second, every design of a bracelet requires a large number of tools and jigs to be prepared.

Provides details on the new, high-potential bracelet manufacturing segment, its export focus, capacity, and the challenges of scaling up.

Asked by Rohit from SK Securities

Precision Engineering (Eigen) Growth Pace and Margins Direct
The reality of the precision business is that it is not that you install a couple of machines and switch on the machine and increase the speed of production. It is not like a continuous process. There are several steps that are required. First of all, there is no such thing as a standard product. Every new product requires a development and a research cycle.

Explains the inherent complexities and slower ramp-up nature of the precision engineering business, tempering expectations for rapid acceleration despite strong demand.

Asked by Neeraj from DAMAC Capital

China Plus One Strategy and Supply Chain Reorganization Direct
You know, China Plus One discussion is a very real discussion. And it's not something that, it's not like that suddenly there is a rush of people coming. In the minds of people, it has changed that we have to find alternatives to China... However, India is emerging as an alternative. KDDL is emerging and has been acclaimed as an alternative to China for watch components.

Confirms the company's strategic positioning to benefit from global supply chain diversification away from China, highlighting India's and KDDL's emerging role in watch components.

Asked by Pratik Poddar

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Detailed narrative

Q4 FY24 & Full Year FY24 Financial Performance Overview

KDDL Ltd reported robust financial performance for Q4 and the full year FY24. Consolidated total income for FY24 grew 25% year-on-year to INR1,420 crores, with EBITDA increasing 53% to INR270 crores, resulting in an EBITDA margin of 19.5%. Consolidated PAT for the year was INR137 crores, marking a 79% growth. For Q4 FY24, consolidated total income rose 16% to INR357 crores, and PAT surged 64% to INR34.8 crores. Standalone financials also showed strong growth, with FY24 total income at INR360 crores (up 15% YoY) and PAT at INR220 crores, significantly boosted by the Ethos stake sale.

Watch Components Segment and New Bracelet Manufacturing

The Watch Components segment, encompassing Dials, Hands, Indexes, and Bracelets, achieved a 10% revenue growth to INR247 crores in FY24. However, the segment experienced a slowdown in Q4 due to market corrections in key global markets like China, Europe, and the Middle East. To counter this, KDDL inaugurated India's first steel bracelet factory in Bangalore, investing approximately INR35 crores. This plant is designed to serve international Swiss customers with a capacity of 75,000 bracelets per year, and its production will be 100% exported, aiming to offset the slowdown in other watch component exports.

Precision Engineering (Eigen) - Strong Growth Trajectory

The Precision Engineering segment, known as Eigen Engineering, demonstrated stellar results, with revenue growing 25% to INR95 crores in FY24, and over 70% of this revenue coming from exports. Management anticipates maintaining a strong growth trajectory of 20-25% CAGR and aims to expand this business to INR500 crores over the next few years. The focus remains on high-growth end industries such as electronics, aerospace, alternative energy, and electrical vehicles, supported by continuous capacity expansion and new construction.

Ornamental Packaging Segment Expansion Plans

KDDL's Ornamental Packaging segment experienced an 18% improvement in demand, with revenue reaching INR15 crores in FY24. To capitalize on this growth, the company is establishing a new facility near Chandigarh with a capacity of 1 million boxes, at an estimated cost of INR8 crores. This strategic expansion is projected to transform the Packaging segment into an INR80 crores to INR100 crores business over the next 5 to 7 years, by targeting high-value premium quality customers in both domestic and export markets.

Swiss Subsidiaries and Favre Leuba Brand Relaunch

Estima AG, KDDL's Swiss watch hands and dials factory, saw revenue growth and reduced losses but remains unprofitable, with profitability now expected to be delayed by about a year due to the unexpected slowdown in the Swiss watch business. Silvercity Brands, a new Swiss subsidiary, increased its equity capital from CHF 2.1 million to CHF 6 million. Silvercity will be primarily engaged in the design, development, assembly, and marketing of watches, including the global relaunch of the iconic Favre Leuba Swiss-made watch brand with completely new collections scheduled for this year.

Capital Allocation and Shareholder Returns

KDDL's manufacturing units incurred approximately INR39 crores in capital expenditure during FY24, excluding Ethos's capex. For the upcoming FY25, the company projects a capex of around INR45 crores for all its businesses. The company announced a final dividend of INR4 per equity share, in addition to the interim dividend of INR58 per share paid in January '24. Following the Ethos stake sale, KDDL has an investable surplus of approximately INR100 crores, which is planned for company growth and shareholder rewards.

Leveraging China Plus One Strategy and Future Watch Cases Entry

Management emphasized that the 'China Plus One' strategy is a significant and real discussion among global brands seeking alternatives to China for manufacturing. India is emerging as a viable alternative, and KDDL is well-positioned and acclaimed as an alternative for watch components, presenting large opportunities in the medium and long term. Building on its experience with steel for the bracelet project, KDDL plans to enter the watch cases manufacturing segment, likely in FY26, recognizing the significant potential in this area due to the absence of specialized steel watch case factories in India for global brands.

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