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    Prince Pipes

    PRINCEPIPEGood
    Capital Goods·8 Nov 2024
    Management Summary

    Prince Pipes reported a challenging Q2 FY25 with revenue and profitability declines, primarily due to a 16% fall in PVC prices leading to channel destocking and inventory losses of ₹12-15 crores. Despite this, the company achieved 4% Y-o-Y volume growth in Q2 and 9% in H1, driven by Plumbing and SWR segments. Management expressed optimism for a stronger H2, citing PVC price reversals and robust end-product demand, maintaining an 8-10% volume growth target for FY25. Strategic capacity expansion, particularly the Begusarai plant, and growth in the Bathware segment are key focus areas.

    Highlights

    8
    • Q2 FY25 Revenue stood at ₹622 crores, a 5.18% decline YoY from ₹656 crores in Q2 FY24.

    • Q2 FY25 Volume Growth was 4% Y-o-Y, primarily driven by Plumbing and SWR segments.

    • Q2 FY25 EBITDA was ₹46 crores, a 35.21% decline YoY from ₹71 crores in Q2 FY24.

    • Q2 FY25 PAT was ₹15 crores, a significant 78.87% decline YoY from ₹71 crores in Q2 FY24 (which included an ₹18 crores exceptional gain).

    • H1 FY25 Revenue improved by 1% Y-o-Y to ₹1,222.1 crores (calculated from 1% improvement over ₹1,210 crores in H1 FY24).

    • H1 FY25 Volume Growth was 9% Y-o-Y, also led by Plumbing and SWR.

    • Management guided for an 8% to 10% volume growth for the full FY25.

    • Total Capex for FY25 is projected to be in the range of ₹330 crores to ₹350 crores.

    Concerns

    1
    • PVC price volatility and channel destocking

    What Changed3

    vs Q3 FY25

    Tone shiftMixed → GoodGuidance items12 → 16 (+4)Risks discussed4 → 3 (-1)

    Key financials

    Single quarter

    08 metrics
    1. 01Revenue₹622 Cr-5.2%YoY
    2. 02EBITDA₹46 Cr-35.2%YoY
    3. 03PAT₹15 Cr-78.9%YoY
    4. 04Volume Growth4%+4%YoY
    5. 05H1 Revenue₹1,222.1 Cr+1%YoY

    Segment breakdown

    • Bathware (Aquel)₹7 Cr36.8%
    • Water Tank₹12 Cr63.2%
    Donut· Share of Q2 Revenue

    Guidance & targets

    16
    CategoryTargetPriority
    Volume
    Volume Growth
    8% to 10%
    High
    Capacity
    Begusarai Capacity
    >50,000 tonnes
    High
    Capacity
    Begusarai Total Capacity
    ~55 KMT
    High
    Capacity
    Begusarai Production Commissioning
    Q4 FY25
    High
    Working Capital
    Working Capital Days
    below 50
    Medium
    Working Capital
    DSO
    below 50
    Medium
    Capex
    Total Capex
    ₹330 crores to ₹350 crores
    High
    Capex
    Bihar Capex
    ₹170 crores
    High
    Capex
    Debottlenecking Capex
    ₹30 crores to ₹35 crores
    High
    Capex
    Maintenance Capex (Existing Plants)
    ₹80 crores to ₹90 crores
    High
    Capex
    Aquel Phase 2 Cash Outflow
    ₹43 crores
    High
    Capex
    Aquel Maintenance Capex
    ₹5 crores to ₹7 crores
    High
    Revenue
    Bathware (Aquel) Revenue
    higher than ₹25 crores
    Medium
    Profitability
    Bathware (Aquel) Breakeven
    by Q3 next fiscal
    Medium
    Profitability
    Return on Capital
    15% to 20%
    Medium
    Ad Spend
    Ad Spend Percentage
    2% to 2.5%
    High

    Risks & concerns

    4
    RiskSeverity

    PVC price volatility and channel destocking

    A 16% fall in PVC prices in Q2 led to severe destocking by channel partners and inventory losses of ₹12-15 crores, adversely impacting Q2 volume and profitability.Management acknowledged

    high

    Short-term impact on return ratios from aggressive capacity expansion and Bathware investment

    Aggressive capacity additions in Telangana and Bihar, along with investments in the Bathware division, are having a short-term impact on return ratios, though long-term targets remain at 15-20%.Management acknowledged

    medium

    Competitive intensity in water tank segment

    The water tank segment has historically high competitive intensity with many regional players and high sensitivity to freight costs, making it more challenging than pipes or bathware.Management acknowledged

    medium

    Areas of Evasion(1)

    • capex reconciliation detail

    Q&A highlights

    3

    “In November, we have seen a reversal of PVC prices because of the announcement of provisional findings of ADD, anti-dumping duty. So I do believe that the channel will start to normalize their inventory levels... So we are optimistic about demand going forward. I think for the financial year, we would be targeting 8% to 10% volume growth.”

    This question addressed the primary reason for Q2's weak performance and provided a clear outlook for recovery and full-year volume targets.

    asked by Gautam Rajesh

    3 min read7 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

    01

    Q2 & H1 FY25 Performance Overview

    Prince Pipes reported a challenging Q2 FY25, with revenue declining 5.18% YoY to ₹622 crores and PAT falling 78.87% YoY to ₹15 crores. This was largely attributed to a 16% drop in PVC prices, leading to channel destocking and inventory losses of ₹12-15 crores. H1 FY25 saw a modest 1% YoY revenue improvement to ₹1,222.1 crores, with EBITDA at ₹104 crores, down 25.18% YoY. The Q2 FY24 PAT included an exceptional gain📎 of ₹18 crores, which distorted the YoY comparison.

    02

    Volume Growth and Market Dynamics

    Despite the headwinds, the company achieved a 4% Y-o-Y volume growth in Q2 and a robust 9% Y-o-Y volume growth in H1 FY25, primarily driven by strong performance in the Plumbing and SWR segments. Management noted that destocking continued into October, but with the announcement of anti-dumping duties (ADD) on PVC, prices are reversing, and channel inventory is expected to normalize. The company is optimistic about demand in H2, projecting an 8% to 10% volume growth for the full FY25, indicating confidence in market recovery.

    03

    Capacity Expansion and East India Focus

    Prince Pipes is aggressively expanding its manufacturing footprint, with the Begusarai plant in Bihar now targeted to have a total capacity of approximately 55 KMT by Q4 FY25, a slight delay from the initial January target due to monsoons. This plant is crucial for serving the fast-growing East India market more efficiently. The company also continues debottlenecking efforts at existing facilities in Jaipur and Telangana, with a total capex of ₹330-350 crores planned for FY25, including ₹170 crores for Bihar and ₹30-35 crores for debottlenecking.

    04

    Bathware (Aquel) Segment Update

    The Bathware segment, Aquel by Prince, generated ₹7 crores in revenue in Q2 and ₹11.5 crores in H1 FY25. The segment currently incurs an EBIT loss of approximately ₹4 crores per quarter, which is within the guided annual loss of ₹16-18 crores. Management aims to achieve over ₹25 crores in revenue for Aquel in FY25 and expects the segment to break even by Q3 of the next fiscal year (FY26). Expansion into South and East India for Bathware is underway, with manpower costs expected to rise in H2, preceding revenue recognition.

    05

    Working Capital and Financial Health

    Overall working capital stood at 93 days in September 2024, an increase from 80 days in June 2024, primarily due to an increase in inventory days from 62 to 88 days. However, receivable days showed significant improvement, reducing from 83 days in March 2024 to 55 days in September 2024. Management targets bringing both working capital days and DSO (Days Sales Outstanding) below 50 by the end of FY25, indicating a focus on improving cash conversion cycles.

    06

    Competitive Landscape and Profitability Strategy

    Management acknowledged the competitive intensity in the industry, particularly in the water tank segment, but emphasized a focus on profitable growth rather than predatory pricing. They confirmed passing on special trade incentives in Q2 to maintain volume growth amidst weak sentiment, noting these are temporary. EBITDA margins were impacted by inventory losses and trade incentives in Q2, but the company expects to return to 12% EBITDA margins (excluding inventory gains/losses) in a normal environment, driven by pricing power, product mix, and operating leverage.

    07

    Long-Term Outlook and Strategic Initiatives

    Prince Pipes highlighted its certification as a 'Great Place to Work' and continued investments in branding, including visibility campaigns in metro trains and apron buses. The company also detailed its 'Parivartan Plumber Upskilling Programme,' training 1,848 plumbers and providing health benefits. For the long term, despite short-term impacts from aggressive capex, management reiterated its commitment to delivering a 15% to 20% return on capital, underscoring confidence in the industry's growth potential and the company's leadership position.

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