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    Prince Pipes And Fittings Q3 FY25 earnings call

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    Capital Goods·12 Feb 2025
    Management Summary

    Prince Pipes reported a challenging Q3 FY25 marked by a decline in revenue and volumes, coupled with significant inventory losses due to PVC price volatility. The company posted a net loss for the quarter. Management acknowledged the underperformance but expressed confidence in a turnaround from the March quarter, driven by normalizing market sentiments, strategic investments, and capacity expansion, particularly with the upcoming Bihar plant.

    Highlights

    7
    • Q3 FY25 Revenue stood at ₹578 crores, a 6.6% decline YoY.

    • Q3 FY25 EBITDA was ₹3 crores, with the company reporting a loss of ₹20 crores.

    • 9M FY25 Revenue was ₹1,804 crores, a 1.4% decline YoY, with 4% YoY volume growth.

    • The company incurred an inventory loss of ₹30 crores in Q3 FY25 and ₹50 crores for 9M FY25 due to volatile PVC prices.

    • Bathware segment revenue for Q3 FY25 was ₹9.5 crores, contributing to a segment loss of ₹5.5-6 crores.

    • Total CapEx for FY25 and FY26, including the Bihar plant, is projected to be ₹260-270 crores.

    • Long-term EBITDA margin target remains at 12%, with expectations of volume and profitability improvement from March/June quarters.

    Concerns

    1
    • PVC Price Volatility and Inventory Losses

    Key financials

    Metrics

    14

    Periods

    3

    Headline

    8
    • Revenue
      ₹578 Cr
      YoY-6.6%
    • EBITDA
      ₹3 Cr
    • PAT
      ₹-20 Cr
    • Volume
      41,267 tonnes
      YoY-3.3%
    • Working Capital Days
      90 days

    Q3

    1
    • Inventory Loss
      ₹30 Cr

    9M

    5
    • Revenue
      ₹1,804 Cr
      YoY-1.4%
    • EBITDA
      ₹107 Cr
    • PAT
      ₹19 Cr
    • Volume Growth
      4%
    • Inventory Loss
      ₹50 Cr

    Segment breakdown

    Bathware
    ₹9.5 Cr Revenue (Q3 FY25)₹5.5 Cr Loss (Q3 FY25)
    Water Tank
    ₹34 Cr Revenue (9M FY25)₹27 Cr Revenue (9M FY24)25.9% YoY Growth (9M FY25)
    List

    Guidance & targets

    11
    CategoryTargetPriority
    Profitability
    EBITDA Margin
    12%
    High
    Profitability
    Margin
    normal levels
    High
    Volume
    Volume Growth
    mid- to high single-digit
    Medium
    Market Share
    Industry Outperformance
    2% to 3%
    High
    Capacity
    Begusarai Plant Capacity (Phase 1)
    40,000 metric tonnes
    High
    Capacity
    Begusarai Plant Capacity (H1 FY26)
    55-60 KT
    High
    Capex
    Total CapEx
    ₹260-270 crores
    High
    Inventory
    Inventory Days
    sharp reduction
    High
    Inventory
    Inventory Normalization
    normalization
    High
    Costs
    Branding Costs
    reduction
    High
    Costs
    Manpower Cost Growth
    not as aggressive
    Medium

    Risks & concerns

    6
    RiskSeverity

    PVC Price Volatility and Inventory Losses

    Constant reduction in PVC prices led to ₹30 crores inventory loss in Q3 FY25 and ₹50 crores for 9M FY25, impacting gross margins significantly. Further inventory loss is expected in Q4.Management acknowledged

    high

    Delayed Demand and Sluggish Execution

    Q3 volumes were affected by delayed demand and sluggish execution in infrastructure and construction sectors.Management acknowledged

    medium

    Competitive Pricing Pressure

    The market leader's aggressive pricing has led to a downtick in margins across the industry, forcing Prince Pipes to be more competitive with incentives.Management acknowledged

    medium

    Elongated Working Capital Cycle

    Inventory days stood at 102 days as of December end, contributing to an elongated working capital cycle, though receivables have improved.Analyst acknowledged

    medium

    Areas of Evasion(2)

    • precise quantification of Q4 inventory loss
    • speculation on anti-dumping duty timing

    Q&A highlights

    3

    “Margins have been under pressure at the gross margin level itself because of a constant reduction in PVC prices. So, we've had a couple of quarters of inventory loss. So even in the December quarter, there was around Rs.30 crores of inventory loss. So that is the main reason for the pressure on margins.”

    This question directly addresses the core reason for the significant drop in profitability, highlighting the impact of raw material price volatility and inventory management.

    asked by Gautam Rajesh

    3 min read7 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

    01

    Q3 FY25 Performance and Industry Challenges

    Prince Pipes reported a challenging Q3 FY25 with revenue declining by 6.6% YoY to ₹578 crores and volumes decreasing by 3.3% YoY to 41,267 tonnes. The company posted a net loss of ₹20 crores, with EBITDA at a mere ₹3 crores. This performance was attributed to volatile PVC prices, leading to a ₹30 crore inventory loss in Q3, and sluggish demand in infrastructure and construction sectors. Management acknowledged that performance was 'far away from expectations'.

    02

    9M FY25 Overview and Volume Growth

    For the nine months of FY25, revenue stood at ₹1,804 crores, a modest 1.4% decline YoY, while volumes grew by 4% YoY. EBITDA for 9M FY25 was ₹107 crores, resulting in a profitability of ₹19 crores. The company incurred a total inventory loss of ₹50 crores for the 9M period. Despite the Q3 dip, the 9M volume growth was stated to be in line with larger players.

    03

    Inventory Management and Margin Pressure

    Inventory days increased to 102 days as of December end, up from 88 days in the prior quarter, due to anticipation of strong H2 demand and duty implementation that did not materialize as expected. This, combined with aggressive competitive pricing and the need for higher channel incentives (around 3% additional discount), put significant pressure on gross and EBITDA margins. Management expects a sharp reduction in inventory days and normalization by the end of FY25.

    04

    Bathware and Water Tank Segment Performance

    The Aquel By Prince Bathware vertical generated ₹9.5 crores in revenue for Q3 FY25, contributing to a segment loss of ₹5.5-6 crores. The segment is expanding its footprint across North, West, and South regions, now present in over 200 retail touch points. Water tank sales showed robust growth, reaching ₹34 crores for 9M FY25, up from ₹27 crores in 9M FY24, a 25.9% YoY increase.

    05

    Strategic Initiatives and Capacity Expansion

    Prince Pipes is implementing growth strategies including investments in distributor management systems and brand reinforcement initiatives like 'Udaan 2.0'. The integrated manufacturing facility at Begusarai, Bihar, with a Phase 1 capacity of 40,000 metric tonnes, is expected to go on stream from Q1 FY26. Total CapEx for FY25 and FY26, including Bihar, is projected at ₹260-270 crores, with ₹95 crores spent in 9M FY25 and an additional ₹60 crores in Q4.

    06

    Outlook and Recovery Expectations

    Management expressed confidence that PVC prices have bottomed out and expects volume improvement from the March quarter, followed by better pricing sentiment and profitability from the June quarter. The long-term EBITDA target remains at 12%, with a goal to outgrow the industry by 2-3% annually. They anticipate mid- to high single-digit volume growth for FY25 and double-digit growth for the June quarter.

    07

    Employee Costs and Promoter Remuneration

    Employee expenses have seen a strong increase, attributed to aggressive manpower expansion in marketing and sales, particularly for the Bathware division. Management clarified that promoter commission is linked to profit parameters, ensuring alignment with shareholder interests. Estimated remuneration for directors for the year is around ₹9 crores, and manpower cost growth is expected to be less aggressive going forward.

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