Samhi Hotels Limited — Q3 FY25 earnings call

Call held 30 Jan 2025

Management summary

Samhi Hotels reported a strong Q3 FY25, driven by robust same-store RevPAR growth and significant margin expansion. The ACIC portfolio, despite flat revenue, showed improved profitability post-transition. The company outlined clear plans for deleveraging, substantial Capex for portfolio transformation, and expects continued strong growth in key markets like Bangalore and Hyderabad, with a focus on increasing inventory and improving asset-level profitability.

Highlights

  • Asset income stood at INR 296 crores, registering a 10% year-on-year growth.

  • Asset EBITDA was INR 122 crores, up 13% YoY, with a margin of 41.2% (90 bps YoY improvement).

  • Consolidated EBITDA reached INR 113 crores, a 25% year-on-year growth, with consolidated margins at 37.9%.

  • Same-store assets delivered a strong RevPAR growth of 15% year-on-year.

  • Net debt as on December 31, 2024, was about INR 2,060 crores, with a cost of debt of 9.4%.

  • Management is confident of achieving 4.5x net debt to EBITDA by FY25 end and 3.5x by FY26 end.

  • ACIC portfolio revenue was flat, but EBITDA grew 10% with a 300 bps margin expansion to 39.4%, expected to cross 40% in Q4 FY25.

  • Capex for FY26 is projected at approximately Rs. 200 crores, and Rs. 150 crores annually for FY27 and FY28.

Key financials

  1. Asset Income ₹296 Cr +10%YoY
  2. Asset EBITDA ₹122 Cr +13%YoY
  3. Asset EBITDA Margin 41.2%
  4. Consolidated EBITDA ₹113 Cr +25%YoY
  5. Consolidated Margin 37.9%
  6. Reported PAT ₹43 Cr
  7. Adjusted PAT ₹30 Cr
  8. Net Debt ₹2,060 Cr
  9. Cost of Debt 9.4%

What they filed

Q1 FY27: revenue up 12.1%, net profit up 31.6% against the same quarter last year.

₹ Cr · quarterly
Line itemQ2 FY25Q3 FY25Q4 FY25Q1 FY26Q2 FY26Q3 FY26Q4 FY26Q1 FY27
Revenue262 292 319 272 293 +12%338 +16%345 +8%305 +12%
EBITDA92 110 122 90 107 +16%122 +11%112 −8%98 +9%
Net profit13 23 46 19 100 +669%48 +109%399 +767%25 +32%
How to read this

₹ crore, as filed. The percentage beside a figure is the change against the same quarter a year earlier — never the quarter before, which would make every seasonal business look like it collapses and booms each year.

Guidance & targets

Profitability

  • ACIC Portfolio Margin Profitability · Q4 FY25 · Medium confidence towards 40%
    ACIC portfolio margin stands now at 39.4% for the quarter, which should move towards 40% or so going forward in Q4 FY25.

    — Rajat Mehra, CFO

  • ACIC Portfolio Margins Profitability · annualized basis · High confidence cross 40%
    we do definitely see the margins in ACIC portfolio cross 40%, remain there for an annualized basis.

    — Ashish Jakhanwala, MD & CEO

  • EBITDA Margins Profitability · unspecified · High confidence inching towards 41%-42%
    Yes, absolutely, no doubt about it. ... I think the least we expect is the number that you just mentioned.

    — Ashish Jakhanwala, MD & CEO

  • Sheraton Hyderabad & Hyatt Regency Pune EBITDA per key Profitability · H2 FY26 (for Hyatt Regency Pune) · High confidence 20-22 lakhs
    Yes, 20 lakhs per key. ... at minimum we should expect about a 20 lakh per key EBITDA on those assets starting H2 FY26.

    — Rajat Mehra, CFO

  • W HITEC City Hyderabad EBITDA per key Profitability · future · High confidence 30 lakhs
    we should expect it to deliver Courtyard level performance in future, which is actually 30 lakhs per key.

    — Ashish Jakhanwala, MD & CEO

  • Upper Midscale (ACIC) ROCE Profitability · unspecified · High confidence 14%-15%
    we actually expect upper midscale also to get to about 14%-15% once ACIC is fully, we get what we need from ACIC, including conversions and all of that.

    — Ashish Jakhanwala, MD & CEO

Capacity

  • Upper Upscale & Upscale Inventory Capacity · unspecified · High confidence double from 1000 to over 2000 rooms
    we are changing the whole portfolio construct where the upper upscale and upscale hotel portfolio through various steps will double in inventory from about 1000 current rooms to over 2000 rooms.

    — Ashish Jakhanwala, MD & CEO

  • Sheraton Hyderabad New Rooms Capacity · FY26 · High confidence 54 rooms
    work has started to add 54 rooms in Sheraton, Hyderabad... These shall be completed in FY26

    — Ashish Jakhanwala, MD & CEO

  • Hyatt Regency Pune New Rooms Capacity · FY26 · High confidence 22 rooms
    and 22 rooms in Hyatt Regency Pune. These shall be completed in FY26

    — Ashish Jakhanwala, MD & CEO

Debt

  • Net Debt to EBITDA Debt · end of FY25 · High confidence 4.5x
    we remain fairly confident of achieving the 4.5x net debt to EBITDA on a reported basis, end of the current fiscal year

    — Ashish Jakhanwala, MD & CEO

  • Net Debt to EBITDA Debt · end of FY26 · High confidence 3.5x
    then subsequently because our EBITDA growth is pretty substantial, we expect that to quickly de-accelerate to 3.5x net debt to EBITDA levels. So, we are absolutely on track.

    — Ashish Jakhanwala, MD & CEO

  • Net Debt Debt · next 2-3 years · High confidence Rs. 1,700-Rs. 1,800 crores
    we actually think that it will be closer to Rs. 1,700-Rs. 1,800 crores of net debt over the next let us say 2-3 years

    — Ashish Jakhanwala, MD & CEO

Capex

  • Capital Expenditure Capex · Q4 FY25 · High confidence Rs. 20 crores
    In the current quarter, we only expect about Rs. 20 odd crores of capital expenditure which is Quarter 4.

    — Ashish Jakhanwala, MD & CEO

  • Capital Expenditure Capex · FY26 · High confidence approx. Rs. 200 crores
    For the next fiscal year, we have approximately Rs. 200 crores of capital expenditure

    — Ashish Jakhanwala, MD & CEO

  • Capital Expenditure Capex · FY27 · High confidence approx. Rs. 150 crores
    About 150 crores a year for FY27, FY28 for us to be able to deliver the Westin in Bangalore in FY29

    — Ashish Jakhanwala, MD & CEO

  • Capital Expenditure Capex · FY28 · High confidence approx. Rs. 150 crores

    — Ashish Jakhanwala, MD & CEO

Project Timeline

  • Westin Bangalore Delivery Project Timeline · FY29 · High confidence FY29
    About 150 crores a year for FY27, FY28 for us to be able to deliver the Westin in Bangalore in FY29

    — Ashish Jakhanwala, MD & CEO

  • W Hotel (Hyderabad) Opening Project Timeline · FY27 · High confidence FY27
    The W will be fully spent in FY26 and FY27. We are pretty much on track to open that hotel in FY27 right now.

    — Ashish Jakhanwala, MD & CEO

  • W HITEC City Hyderabad Opening Project Timeline · FY27 · High confidence Q4 FY27
    Yes, we should get quarter plus for FY27 for this hotel.

    — Ashish Jakhanwala, MD & CEO

Revenue

  • ACIC Total Revenue Growth Revenue · FY26 · High confidence 9%-11%
    I think in FY26, you should expect 9%-11% total revenue growth in ACIC.

    — Ashish Jakhanwala, MD & CEO

Asset Recycling

  • Proceeds from Asset Recycling Asset Recycling · unspecified · High confidence Rs. 200 odd crores
    The amount from asset recycling as we have indicated earlier is not very substantial about Rs. 200 odd crores

    — Ashish Jakhanwala, MD & CEO

  • Rooms for Recycling Asset Recycling · unspecified · High confidence 200-250 rooms
    cumulative rooms across these assets that we would recycle would be perhaps 200-250 rooms.

    — Ashish Jakhanwala, MD & CEO

Risks & concerns

  • Seasonality impacting RevPAR/ARR

    low

    Q3 is seasonally weaker due to holidays (Diwali, Christmas), impacting business hotel performance, while Q4 is typically the strongest.

    Analyst acknowledged

  • Sustainability of high ARR post-rebranding

    low

    While Holiday Inn Express Greater Noida saw 2x ARR post-rebranding, management cautioned that Q4 is the best quarter, so the current Rs. 5,600 rate might not be sustainable long-term.

    Management acknowledged

Areas of evasion (2)

  • Specific Q4 topline growth percentage
  • Exact long-term revenue number beyond embedded growth calculations

Q&A highlights

3 direct
Net debt and deleveraging targets Direct
we remain fairly confident of achieving the 4.5x net debt to EBITDA on a reported basis, end of the current fiscal year and then subsequently because our EBITDA growth is pretty substantial, we expect that to quickly de-accelerate to 3.5x net debt to EBITDA levels. So, we are absolutely on track.

Management confirmed specific net debt to EBITDA targets for FY25 and FY26, providing clarity on the deleveraging path and the role of asset recycling.

Asked by Karan Khanna, Ambit Capital

Muted revenue growth in ACIC portfolio and future outlook Direct
total income in ACIC remains flat vis-a-vis the same quarter last year, but the EBITDA margin is expanded by about, actually the growth in EBITDA was about 10% with a margin expansion of 300 basis points. ... in FY26, you should expect 9%-11% total revenue growth in ACIC.

Management explained the strategic reasons for flat ACIC revenue (transition from franchise to managed) and provided clear guidance for future revenue and margin growth for this portfolio.

Asked by Pradyumna Choudhary, JM Financial Family Office

ROCE breakup by segment and market Direct
the upscale segment will deliver about 16% odd ROCE. ... Upper mid-scale (ACIC) which is at about 8%-9%, the mid-scale is at about 12% to 13% and the upper upscale is about 15.5%-16%. ... A city like Bangalore for us today ... would be sitting at almost (+20%) ROCE for us as a market.

Management provided granular Return on Capital Employed (ROCE) figures across different hotel segments and key markets, offering insights into asset-level profitability and future potential.

Asked by Shrinarayan Mishra, Baroda BNP Paribas

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Detailed narrative

Strong Q3 FY25 Financial Performance

Samhi Hotels delivered a robust Q3 FY25, with asset income growing 10% year-on-year to INR 296 crores. Asset EBITDA increased by 13% YoY to INR 122 crores, achieving a margin of 41.2%, a 90 bps improvement. Consolidated EBITDA saw a 25% YoY growth, reaching INR 113 crores, with overall consolidated margins at 37.9%. The reported PAT for the quarter was INR 43 crores, which adjusts to circa INR 30 crores after accounting for a non-cash finance cost of Rs. 6.5 crores related to loan refinancing.

Robust RevPAR Growth and Market Dynamics

The company's same-store assets demonstrated strong performance with a 15% year-on-year RevPAR growth. This was fueled by continued demand from expanding office markets and record passenger movement, with occupancy levels in the mid-70s and weekdays reaching 80-90% in key cities. Hyderabad led with 24% RevPAR growth, followed by Bangalore at 20%, and Pune at 17% for Q3 FY25, indicating strong market tailwinds.

ACIC Portfolio Transition and Margin Expansion

The ACIC portfolio, fully consolidated since August 2023, experienced flat revenue in Q3 FY25 due to a strategic transition from 'Marriott Franchise' to 'Marriott Managed' and cost structure optimization. Despite this, ACIC EBITDA grew 10% with a 300 basis points margin expansion, reaching 39.4%. Management expects ACIC revenue growth of 9-11% in FY26 and margins to cross 40% on an annualized basis as the portfolio is repriced and low-rated business is phased out.

Strategic Portfolio Transformation and Inventory Expansion

Samhi Hotels is undergoing a significant portfolio transformation, aiming to double its upper upscale and upscale inventory from 1,000 to over 2,000 rooms. Key additions include 54 rooms at Sheraton Hyderabad and 22 rooms at Hyatt Regency Pune, both expected to be completed in FY26. Other projects involve adding 80 rooms to Fairfield by Marriott Chennai and developing a new 170-room W Hotel in HITEC City, Hyderabad, slated for opening in FY27.

Deleveraging Path and Capex Plan

Net debt stood at INR 2,060 crores as of December 31, 2024, with a weighted average cost of debt at 9.4%. Management is confident in achieving a net debt to EBITDA ratio of 4.5x by FY25 end and 3.5x by FY26 end, projecting absolute net debt to be Rs. 1,700-1,800 crores over the next 2-3 years. This will be supported by internal accruals, free cash flow, and asset recycling, which is expected to generate approximately Rs. 200 crores from 200-250 rooms in the mid-scale segment. Capex for Q4 FY25 is Rs. 20 crores, with FY26 Capex at Rs. 200 crores, and Rs. 150 crores annually for FY27 and FY28, allocated to new room additions and strategic projects like the Westin Bangalore (delivery FY29).

ROCE Profile and Sector Diversification

The company's average Return on Capital Employed (ROCE) is around 14-15%, with the upscale segment at 16% and upper upscale at 15.5-16%. The upper mid-scale (ACIC) is targeted to reach 14-15% post-optimization. Key markets like Bangalore are already achieving an ROCE of almost 20%. Management also noted a reduced contribution from the IT/ITeS sector to revenues, with increasing diversification from healthcare, biotech, defense, infrastructure, BFSI consulting, manufacturing, and smaller companies, enhancing revenue stability.

Impact of Rebranding and Renovations

The rebranding of Caspia Pro in Greater Noida to Holiday Inn Express in December 2024 has shown promising results, with the Average Room Rate (ARR) increasing 2x from Rs. 2,300 to Rs. 5,600 month-to-date, though management cautioned about Q4 seasonality. A renovation of Caspia Delhi, which previously contributed only Rs. 1 crore EBITDA annually, is expected to be completed in about a year, with post-renovation EBITDA per key projected at 9-10 lakhs, significantly improving its contribution.

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