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    Teamlease Services Q3 FY25 earnings call

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    Services·29 Jan 2025
    Management Summary

    TeamLease Services reported a quarter of continued growth in Q3 FY25, with revenue up 4% QoQ and 19% YoY, and EBITDA growing 4% QoQ. While general staffing saw muted growth due to seasonality and BFSI sector headwinds, specialized staffing achieved positive net headcount growth after several quarters. The company also highlighted strategic investments in HR Tech (TSR Darashaw and Wallet HR) and an Ikigai partnership for specialized staffing expansion, aiming for future synergies and margin improvement. EdTech revenue improved significantly, with a strong Q4 expected to compensate for Q3 billing delays.

    Highlights

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    • Total headcount added: ~3,000+ in Q3 FY25.

    • Revenue: up ~4% quarter-on-quarter and 19% year-on-year.

    • EBITDA: grew by 4% quarter-on-quarter.

    • Net associate additions: 1,300+ in Q3 FY25, bringing year-to-date to 32,600+.

    • Profit After Tax (PAT): grew by 14% between Q3 and Q2 FY25.

    • Staffing EBITDA: grew 5% quarter-on-quarter.

    • EdTech revenue: improved 19% quarter-on-quarter.

    • Free cash: INR310 crores as of December 31, 2024.

    What Changed2

    vs Q4 FY25

    Tone shiftMixed → NeutralRisks discussed7 → 4 (-3)

    Key financials

    Single quarter

    04 metrics
    1. 01Revenue+19%YoY
    2. 02EBITDA+4%QoQ
    3. 03PAT+14.0%QoQ
    4. 04Free Cash₹310 Cr

    Segment breakdown

    General Staffing
    1,300 count Net Associate Additions32,600 count YTD Net Associate Additions12% Overall Net Associate Growth
    Specialized Staffing
    Net Headcount Growth3.3 higher per month Recruiter Productivity55% GCC Contribution to Net Revenue30% GCC Contribution to Headcount
    EdTech
    19% Revenue Growth10% Gross Margin (CSR)
    HR Tech (TSR Darashaw)
    ₹9 Cr Annual Revenue₹3 Cr Profits1.6 lakh Payroll Records
    HR Tech (Crystal HR)
    ₹13 Cr Annual Revenue₹3.5 Cr Profits3 lakh Payroll Records
    HR Tech (Combined Acquisitions)
    ₹22 Cr Annual Revenue₹7.2 Cr Annual Profits₹1.1 Cr Q4 FY25 EBITDA Contribution
    List

    Guidance & targets

    8
    CategoryTargetPriority
    Profitability
    EdTech EBITDA Margin
    6% to 7%
    High
    Profitability
    Inorganic EBITDA Contribution
    INR1.1 crores
    High
    Profitability
    HR Tech (Acquisitions) EBITDA Margin
    6% to 7%
    High
    Profitability
    Overall Absolute Profit
    improvement quarter-on-quarter
    Medium
    Profitability
    Overall EBITDA
    double-digit growth sequentially
    Medium
    Profitability
    HR Services Profitability
    turn positive back
    High
    Profitability
    HR Services EBIT
    >INR7 crores
    High
    Headcount
    General Staffing Headcount
    marginal decline
    Medium

    Risks & concerns

    5
    RiskSeverity

    BFSI Sector Headwinds

    Tighter RBI norms around lending (micro finance, credit cards, personal loans) and KYC guidelines are impacting headcount and will continue into Q4.Management acknowledged

    medium

    IT Sector Cautious Hiring

    The IT sector continues to witness cautious and selective hiring, although gradual uptick is emerging. This has offset growth in GCCs.Management acknowledged

    medium

    EdTech Billing and Collection Delays

    Delays in university billing and collection lag impacted profitability in HR Services, but a catch-up is expected in Q4.Management acknowledged

    medium

    Impact of Minimum Wage Increase on Percentage Margins

    While statutory payments are passed to customers, a fixed PAPM model means percentage margins will decline if average salaries increase significantly.Analyst acknowledged

    medium

    Areas of Evasion(1)

    • Specific timing of new labor code implementation

    Q&A highlights

    3

    “I think on the BFSI call out, which was made in Q2 and even now, I think there are two aspects to it, which is separate. One aspect of it is around some of the earlier called out RBI strictures around KYC and in-sourcing. So I think that part in separate is a onetime incident which is playing out in Q3 and going into Q4.”

    Clarifies the ongoing impact of BFSI slowdown and RBI norms on general staffing headcount into Q4, and the margin dynamics with salary hikes.

    asked by Deep Shah

    3 min read6 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

    01

    Q3 FY25 Performance Overview

    TeamLease Services reported a quarter of sustained growth in Q3 FY25, with revenue increasing approximately 4% quarter-on-quarter and 19% year-on-year. EBITDA also saw a 4% quarter-on-quarter growth, primarily driven by efficiencies within the employment clusters. The company added over 3,000 headcount in the quarter, contributing to a year-to-date net associate addition of more than 32,600 and an overall net associate growth of 12% on its opening base. Profit After Tax (PAT) grew by 14% between Q3 and Q2 FY25, reflecting improved profitability.

    02

    General Staffing Dynamics and Headwinds

    Growth in general staffing was muted during Q3 FY25, with net associate additions of 1,300+, lower than anticipated. This was largely attributed to seasonality and specific headwinds in the BFSI sector, including tighter RBI norms around lending and KYC guidelines, which are expected to continue impacting headcount into Q4. While some other sectors are compensating, management foresees a marginal net decline in general staffing headcount in Q4. However, normalization and positive growth are expected from Q1 FY26 onwards, with quick commerce and retail signaling positive trends.

    03

    Specialized Staffing and GCC Growth

    Specialized staffing achieved a small but positive net headcount growth in Q3 FY25, marking a turnaround after several quarters of decline. This segment also saw an increase in quarter-on-quarter revenue and a marginal improvement in year-on-year profitability. Global Capability Centers (GCCs) remain a strong growth driver, contributing 55-60% of net revenue and 30% of the associate headcount in specialized staffing, with this growth currently in double digits. Recruiter productivity improved from 2.5 to approximately 3.3 hires per month.

    04

    Strategic HR Tech Investments and Synergies

    TeamLease made two strategic investments in the HR Tech space: TSR Darashaw and Wallet HR. TSR Darashaw, a payroll outsourcing business, manages 1.6 lakh payroll records with an annual revenue of INR9 crores and profits of INR3-3.5 crores. Wallet HR (Crystal HR), a SaaS HRMS platform, handles 3-3.5 lakh payroll records with an annual revenue of INR13 crores and profits of INR3.5 crores. Combined, these acquisitions are expected to contribute INR1.1 crores to Q4 FY25 EBITDA and achieve 6-7% EBITDA margins after a 12-month integration period, complementing existing HR Tech offerings.

    05

    EdTech Business Outlook

    The EdTech business demonstrated strong performance, with revenue improving 19% quarter-on-quarter. Despite profitability being impacted in Q3 due to delays in university billing and collection, management is confident of a significant catch-up📎 in Q4. They project EdTech to maintain an EBITDA margin of 6% to 7% for the full FY25. The HR Services segment, which includes EdTech, is expected to turn positive for the full year in Q4, with an anticipated EBIT of more than INR7 crores in Q4 FY25.

    06

    Margin Management and Productivity Focus

    The company continues to prioritize absolute profit improvement, with PBT marginally improving by 5 basis points and PAT by 8 basis points between Q2 and Q3. While percentage margins can be impacted by salary hikes due to fixed PAPM models, the focus remains on driving absolute EBITDA growth, targeting double-digit sequential growth at the group level. Operational excellence initiatives, including productivity improvements (FTE productivity moved from 382 to 386), and leveraging technology are key levers for margin scalability.

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