V-Guard Industries Limited — Q3 FY25 earnings call

Call held 29 Jan 2025

Management summary

V-Guard Industries reported moderate revenue growth in Q3 FY25, driven by strong performance in the Electronics segment and Non-South markets. While gross margins expanded significantly, EBITDA growth was tempered by higher A&P spends and employee costs. The company continues strategic investments in manufacturing, with a new facility approved for fans in Hyderabad, and is working to integrate Sunflame amidst ongoing challenges in kitchen appliance demand.

Highlights

  • Consolidated net revenues of ₹1,269 crores, up 8.9% YoY.

  • Electronics segment revenue grew almost 28% YoY.

  • Electricals segment registered a growth of 1.2%.

  • Consumer Durables segment grew by 8.1% YoY.

  • Sunflame reported a top line growth of 4% YoY.

  • Non-South market revenue grew 15.8% YoY, contributing 48.4% of total revenues.

  • Gross margin improved to 36.2% from 33.7% in Q3 last year, an increase of 250 bps.

  • EBITDA (excluding other income) was ₹104 crores, an increase of 2.5% YoY, with an EBITDA margin of 8.2% (50 bps below 8.7% last year).

Key financials

  1. Revenue ₹1,269 Cr +8.9%YoY
  2. Gross Margin 36.2% +2.5%YoY
  3. EBITDA (excl. other income) ₹104 Cr +2.5%YoY
  4. EBITDA Margin 8.2% -0.5%YoY

What they filed

Q1 FY27: revenue up 23.5%, net profit up 92.9% against the same quarter last year.

₹ Cr · quarterly
Line itemQ2 FY25Q3 FY25Q4 FY25Q1 FY26Q2 FY26Q3 FY26Q4 FY26Q1 FY27
Revenue1,229 1,185 1,480 1,406 1,272 +3%1,326 +12%1,687 +14%1,737 +24%
EBITDA91 83 121 94 85 −7%96 +16%143 +18%155 +65%
Net profit52 48 78 56 66 +27%42 −12%95 +22%108 +93%
How to read this

₹ crore, as filed. The percentage beside a figure is the change against the same quarter a year earlier — never the quarter before, which would make every seasonal business look like it collapses and booms each year.

Segment breakdown

  • Electronics
    28% Revenue Growth
  • Electricals
    1.2% Growth
  • Consumer Durables
    8.1% Growth
  • Sunflame
    4% Top Line Growth
  • Non-South Market
    15.8% Revenue Growth48.4% Contribution to Total Revenue
  • South Market
    3.7% Revenue Growth

Guidance & targets

Capacity

  • Sales from own plants Capacity · next 3 years or 4 years · Medium confidence 70% to 75%
    So we don't give out the category-wise split, but I think as a company, we are at about 65% odd percent as a company. 65% of V-Guard's sales are sales coming from products manufactured in our own plants. And we believe in the next 3 years or 4 years, it should hit 70% to 75%.

    — Mithun K Chittilappilly

  • VCPL facility commercial production Capacity · next 18 months · High confidence
    We expect the first phase of the plant to be open in the next 18 months. We have started work, so there is a time required. The ground-breaking just happened a few weeks back. So 18 months, we expect commercial production to start, and this plant will be near Hyderabad.

    — Mithun K Chittilappilly

Margin

  • EBITDA Margin Margin · Medium confidence 10%
    But like I said, we are not targeting margins more than; today, we are only targeting the margins for our goal which is to hit 10% EBITDA margins because we find that most of our market leaders are also not able to go beyond that.

    — Mithun K Chittilappilly

  • Annual margin expansion Margin · every year · Medium confidence 0.5%
    Yes. We will continue to endeavor to expand our margins, maybe 0.5% every year.

    — Ramachandran V

  • Consumer Durables segment margins Margin · Medium confidence pre-COVID levels
    So maybe Electronics, margins may not be there, but in kitchen appliances, which is in Consumer Durables; and fans, again, I think it's in Consumer Durables. Both these, there is scope for some improvement in margins. So with this, I think, CD, the Consumer Durables segment margins, we also hope to take it back to pre-COVID levels.

    — Mithun K Chittilappilly

Capex

  • VCPL facility investment Capex · over 3 financial years · High confidence ₹100 crores
    Our Board has approved around INR100 crores investment in VCPL (V-Guard Consumer Products Limited) facility at Hyderabad, which will produce both TPW and ceiling fans. It will be funded in phases through internal accruals.

    — Mithun K Chittilappilly

  • VCPL facility investment (Year 1) Capex · next financial year · High confidence ₹50 crores
    So the capex of INR100 crores will be spent over 3 financial years. It will be like INR50 crores in year 1, that is next financial year, and then in phases in the following two financial years.

    — Mithun K Chittilappilly

Revenue

  • Sunflame business growth Revenue · Medium confidence mid-teens to high teens
    Yes, of course, our endeavor is to grow the business in, say, mid-teens to high teens.

    — Ramachandran V

Risks & concerns

  • Commodity price volatility impacting wires segment

    medium

    Demand for wires was impacted by commodity price fluctuations, leading to up-stocking or down-stocking behavior.

    Management acknowledged

  • Muted consumer demand in kitchen appliances and water heaters

    medium

    Overall consumer demand remained moderate, with kitchen appliances seeing a continuous slowdown and water heaters impacted by a late onset of winter.

    Management acknowledged

  • Lower CSD orders for Sunflame

    medium

    Sunflame's general trade grew, but orders from the Canteen Stores Department (CSD) continued to be lower, though management believes this is temporary.

    Management acknowledged, temporary

  • Increased competitive intensity and margin pressure in the sector

    medium

    The industry has become more competitive post-COVID, making price hikes harder and leading to overall profitability stress for the industry.

    Management acknowledged

  • Impact of operating leverage due to degrowth in wires

    low

    The degrowth in the wires category, one of the largest, pulled down overall growth and led to a lack of operating leverage in the quarter.

    Management acknowledged, temporary

Areas of evasion (2)

  • Specific product-wise growth breakdown within Electronics (batteries vs stabilizers)
  • Exact revenue potential for solar rooftop solutions

Q&A highlights

3 direct
Southern region growth slowdown Direct
So the South market has a larger contribution from the wire segment. So the decline in wire has impacted South market more adversely than non-South.

Explains the regional disparity in growth, linking the slowdown in the South to the impact of commodity price volatility on the wires segment.

Asked by Nattasha Jain

Continuous slowdown in kitchen appliances Direct
Possibly post-COVID and as the country came out of it, I think that we are seeing a moderation in demand. ... It may be a reflection of some amount of stress in the lower income segment.

Provides management's hypothesis for the persistent weakness in the kitchen appliances segment, attributing it to post-COVID demand moderation and stress in lower-income segments.

Asked by Nattasha Jain

Sunflame margins and normalized growth Direct
Some of these staff costs have started to come in and hit and some of it is showing results also, but I think the decline in CSD is kind of negating a lot of those growths. ... there are other expenses like consulting expenses because we are doing a lot of projects, right, to align the systems and also to develop the going-forward strategy and for the integration.

Explains the reasons behind the low margins in Sunflame, including increased staffing, consulting expenses for integration, and CSD decline, suggesting these are largely transient factors.

Asked by Achal Lohade

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Detailed narrative

Q3 FY25 Financial Overview

V-Guard Industries reported consolidated net revenues of ₹1,269 crores in Q3 FY25, marking an 8.9% Y-o-Y growth. Gross margin improved significantly to 36.2% from 33.7% in Q3 last year, an increase of 250 bps, driven by higher in-house manufacturing and cost-saving initiatives. However, EBITDA (excluding other income) grew by a modest 2.5% Y-o-Y to ₹104 crores, with the EBITDA margin at 8.2%, 50 bps lower than the previous year's 8.7%, primarily due to higher A&P spends and employee costs.

Segmental and Regional Performance

The Electronics segment demonstrated strong performance with a revenue growth of almost 28% Y-o-Y. The Electricals segment grew by 1.2%, impacted by commodity price fluctuations affecting wires, a major contributor. Consumer Durables grew by 8.1% Y-o-Y, though kitchen appliances demand remained muted and water heaters were affected by a late winter. Regionally, the Non-South market showed robust growth of 15.8% Y-o-Y, now contributing 48.4% of total revenues, while the South market grew by 3.7% Y-o-Y, primarily due to the impact on the wires segment.

Margin Evolution and Manufacturing Strategy

The company has seen continuous improvement in gross margins, attributing it to increased in-house manufacturing, cost-saving initiatives, and a shift to premium portfolios. Currently, 65% of V-Guard's sales come from products manufactured in its own plants, with a target to reach 70-75% in the next 3-4 years. Management aims for an overall EBITDA margin of around 10%, acknowledging the competitive industry environment. They also endeavor to expand margins by approximately 0.5% annually.

Strategic Investments in New Facilities

V-Guard's Board approved an investment of ₹100 crores for a new VCPL facility in Hyderabad, which will produce TPW fans and ceiling fans. This investment will be phased over three financial years, with approximately ₹50 crores allocated for the next financial year. The first phase of the plant is expected to commence commercial production within the next 18 months, aiming to enhance supply security, product innovation, and quality, especially for fans, which were previously largely imported.

Sunflame Integration and Outlook

Sunflame reported a 4% Y-o-Y top-line growth in Q3 FY25, with healthy growth in general trade but lower orders from CSD. The company acknowledges that Sunflame's margins have been impacted by increased staffing for professionalization, consulting expenses for integration, and the CSD decline. Management views these costs as largely transient and expects improvements as integration progresses and the kitchen appliance category recovers, with an endeavor to grow the business in the mid-teens to high teens.

Demand Environment and Market Challenges

Consumer demand remained moderate, particularly impacting kitchen appliances, which have seen a continuous slowdown for the third consecutive year, attributed to post-COVID moderation and stress in lower-income segments. Water heater sales were also affected by a delayed winter. While the Electronics segment, including solar rooftop solutions, showed strong growth, the overall demand environment for durables remains sensitive to external factors like commodity price volatility and seasonal patterns.

Employee Costs and A&P Spends

Employee costs rose significantly Y-o-Y, partly due to reversals of variable pay provisions in Q3 FY24, which artificially lowered last year's base. Additionally, Q3 FY25 included an ESOP grant expenditure of ₹7 crores for the quarter (₹21 crores for the nine months), which is a new and elevated cost expected to taper down. A&P spends also increased by 10-15% for the V-Guard brand, with specific activities undertaken for Sunflame during Diwali.

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