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    Centum Electron

    CENTUMMixed
    Capital Goods·17 Feb 2025
    Management Summary

    Centum Electronics reported a mixed Q3 FY25, with consolidated revenue declining 6% YoY but showing QoQ growth. Standalone performance remained robust, driven by the domestic Build To Spec business. However, consolidated results were significantly impacted by losses in the Canadian subsidiary and an exceptional item, leading to a downward revision of full-year EBITDA guidance. Management is actively pursuing strategic measures to address subsidiary challenges and remains optimistic about standalone growth, particularly in the defense and space sectors.

    Highlights

    8
    • Consolidated revenue from operations declined by 6% year-on-year but increased by 8% quarter-on-quarter to INR281 crores.

    • Adjusted for gross value, Q3 FY25 revenue grew 13% quarter-on-quarter and 6% year-on-year.

    • Consolidated EBITDA margins stood at 6.9% for Q3 FY25, with a net loss of INR19 crores primarily due to an exceptional item.

    • Standalone EBITDA margin was stronger at 11.79% for Q3 FY25, with a net profit of INR9 crores.

    • The overall order book position stands at INR1,675 crores as of December 31, 2024.

    • Management revised the full-year FY25 consolidated EBITDA target downwards to INR100 crores from an earlier INR130 crores, mainly due to subsidiary underperformance.

    • The Canadian subsidiary continues to be a major drag, with strategic decisions expected in the coming quarters to address losses.

    • The domestic Build To Spec (BTS) business is performing well, with its order book increasing to INR563 crores by end of 9M FY25.

    Concerns

    2
    • Canadian Subsidiary Losses

    • Exceptional Item / Provision for Associate Company

    What Changed3

    vs Q4 FY25

    Tone shiftGood → MixedGuidance items8 → 10 (+2)Risks discussed4 → 5 (+1)
    Key financials

    Metrics

    17

    Periods

    2

    Headline

    9
    • Consolidated Revenue
      ₹281 Cr
      YoY-6%QoQ+8%
    • Consolidated EBITDA
      ₹19 Cr
      YoY-33%
    • Consolidated EBITDA Margin
      6.9%
    • Consolidated Net Loss
      ₹19 Cr
    • Standalone Revenue
      ₹181 Cr
      YoY+2.5%QoQ+8%

    9M FY25

    8
    • Consolidated Revenue
      ₹787 Cr
      YoY-1%
    • Consolidated EBITDA
      ₹55 Cr
      YoY-19%
    • Consolidated EBITDA Margin
      7%
    • Consolidated Net Loss
      ₹24 Cr
    • Standalone Revenue
      ₹480 Cr
      YoY+3.5%

    Segment breakdown

    EBITDA MarginEBITDA Margin (Upper)
    Build To Spec (BTS) Business18%20%
    EMS Business11%13%
    Engineering Division (French Subsidiary)150%2%
    Heatmap· 2 shared metrics

    Guidance & targets

    10
    CategoryTargetPriority
    Profitability
    Subsidiary EBITDA Margin
    7%
    Medium
    Profitability
    Subsidiary EBITDA Margin
    11-12%
    Medium
    Profitability
    Canadian Subsidiary Profitability
    no longer a dragger
    Medium
    Profitability
    Consolidated EBITDA
    INR100 crores
    Medium
    Profitability
    Standalone EBITDA Margin
    13-14%
    Medium
    Profitability
    Subsidiary EBITDA Margin (including Canada)
    6-7%
    Medium
    Revenue Growth
    Consolidated Revenue Growth (gross accounting basis)
    13%
    Medium
    Revenue Growth
    Standalone Revenue Growth (gross accounting basis)
    26%
    Medium
    Revenue Growth
    Overall Growth Rate
    15%+
    Medium
    Space Sector Revenue
    Space Sector Revenue
    INR2,500 crores to INR3,000 crores
    Low

    Risks & concerns

    6
    RiskSeverity

    Canadian Subsidiary Losses

    Losses from Canadian operations are majorly contributing to consolidated net loss and impacting overall P&L, leading to strategic decisions being considered.Management acknowledged

    high

    Delays in New Project Starts (France)

    Delays in new project starts in France have led to lower utilization and impacted margins in the engineering services business.Management acknowledged

    medium

    Exceptional Item / Provision for Associate Company

    A net loss of INR19 crores (consolidated) was reported due to a provision for the entire exposure to an associate company (Ausar Energy) referred to redressement judiciaire.Management acknowledged

    high

    Slowdown in PAPIS Business (Canada)

    There has been a general slowdown in the PAPIS (Passenger Information Systems) business in Canada, with no significant fresh orders.Management acknowledged

    medium

    Difficulty in Reaching IR Team

    An analyst reported difficulty in contacting the company's IR and CS teams for information.Analyst acknowledged

    low

    Areas of Evasion(1)

    • specific timeline for full resolution of subsidiary issues beyond 'June/September'

    Q&A highlights

    3

    “So our first priority and action is around basically addressing the Canadian losses that we have. And towards that I think there's a couple of points. First, in the short-term itself, we are we've been negotiating quite strongly with some of our customers to obtain additional purchase orders for or additional variation orders for the -- to support the engineering team in Canada.”

    This question directly addressed the core issue impacting consolidated profitability, with management outlining specific actions and long-term margin targets for subsidiaries.

    asked by Harsh Mehta

    3 min read6 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

    01

    Q3 & 9 Months FY25 Performance Overview

    Centum Electronics reported consolidated revenue from operations of INR281 crores for Q3 FY25, marking an 8% quarter-on-quarter increase but a 6% year-on-year decline. Adjusted for gross value, Q3 FY25 revenue grew 13% QoQ and 6% YoY. Consolidated EBITDA margins stood at 6.9%, leading to a net loss of INR19 crores for the quarter, primarily due to an exceptional item📎. For the nine months ended FY25, consolidated revenue was INR787 crores, a marginal 1% YoY decline, with an EBITDA margin of 7% and a net loss of INR24 crores.

    02

    Standalone Business Resilience and Order Book Growth

    In contrast to the consolidated figures, the standalone business demonstrated resilience. Standalone revenue for Q3 FY25 was INR181 crores, growing 8% QoQ and 2.5% YoY, with a healthy EBITDA margin of 11.79% and a net profit of INR9 crores. The domestic Build To Spec (BTS) business, focused on defense and space, is performing strongly, with its order book increasing from INR376 crores at end of FY23 to INR563 crores at end of 9M FY25. The overall order book stands at INR1,675 crores as of December 31, 2024, with BTS orders executable over 2-2.5 years and EMS orders over 9-12 months.

    03

    Subsidiary Challenges and Strategic Measures

    The Canadian subsidiary remains a significant drag on consolidated profitability, primarily due to uncompensated costs for engineering teams and a slowdown in the PAPIS business. Management aims to make strategic decisions in the coming quarters to ensure the Canadian operations cease to be a drag by June (best case) or September (worst case). The French engineering services business is currently at a breakeven level, with efforts to improve utilization and margins to 7% in the short term and 11-12% in subsequent years. Work is being shifted from Canada to India to leverage cost advantages.

    04

    Revised Financial Guidance for FY25

    Due to the underperformance of the subsidiaries, management revised its full-year FY25 consolidated EBITDA target downwards to INR100 crores from the earlier INR130 crores. Similarly, the consolidated revenue growth on a gross accounting basis for FY25 is now expected to be 13%, down from the previous 18%. However, standalone revenue growth for FY25 on a gross accounting basis is still expected to be around 26%. For FY26, standalone EBITDA margin is targeted at 13-14%, while subsidiary EBITDA margin (including Canada) is aimed for 6-7%.

    05

    Space and Defense Sector Opportunities

    Centum Electronics is well-positioned in the domestic defense and space markets. The company recently secured a contract worth over INR300 crores for satellite-based payloads for Electronic Warfare Applications. Management expects substantial orders from the radar domain and naval programs in Q4. They are also actively involved in indigenizing Russian imported products for land systems. In the space sector, Centum has moved up the value chain to deliver full satellite payloads and is pursuing opportunities in situational awareness and debris tracking, with expectations of new projects from ISRO in the coming years.

    06

    Exceptional Item and Fundraising Plans

    The consolidated net loss for Q3 FY25 included an exceptional item📎 of INR19 crores, which is a provision for the entire exposure to Ausar Energy, an associate company (30% shareholding) that has been referred to redressement judiciaire in France. Management is hopeful of recovering at least a partial amount, as four interested parties are bidding on the company. Additionally, the Board has approved fundraising through a QIP or other means, with the timing to be announced later, in anticipation of significant growth opportunities, especially in the standalone business.

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