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    Earnings call· Dec 2024(Q2 FY25)

    Affirm Holdings Q2 FY25 earnings call AFRM

    Feb 6, 2025 Source

    Executive summary

    Affirm Holdings, Inc. Q2 FY25 — Strong Growth Driven by 0% Loans and Capital Market Execution

    Affirm delivered a strong quarter, driven by strategic investments in 0% APR loan programs and robust capital markets execution. The company continues to focus on direct-to-consumer engagement through its app and card, expanding its merchant network, and leveraging AI for internal efficiencies. Management remains confident in its credit underwriting discipline and ability to thrive across various macroeconomic conditions, with an eye on international expansion and product diversification.

    Highlights

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    • RLTC margin exceeded the 3%-4% target range, benefiting from $60 million in capital market execution.

    • Active customers grew 23% year-over-year, marking four consecutive quarters of accelerating growth.

    • 0% APR loans saw a noticeable increase, contributing to broader consumer reach and transaction volume.

    • Affirm Card GMV reached over 8% of total GMV, demonstrating strong engagement and economic performance.

    Concerns

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    • Macroeconomic uncertainty and credit card lender pullback

    • Regulatory and political environment (CFPB, tariffs)

    Guidance & targets

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    CategoryTargetConfidence
    RLTC Margin
    3%-4%
    high materiality
    High
    Non-GAAP Operating Expenses
    Roughly in line with Q2 levels
    medium materiality
    High
    Non-GAAP Operating Expenses
    Roughly in line with Q2 levels
    medium materiality
    High
    GMV
    $50 billion
    high materiality
    High
    Affirm Card Annual Spend
    $7,500 per year
    medium materiality
    Medium
    Affirm Card Cardholders
    20 million
    medium materiality
    Medium

    Operational metrics

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    RLTC Margin
    Above 3%-4% range
    Q2 FY25

    The RLTC margin for the quarter exceeded the company's long-term target range.

    RLTC Margin Benefit from Capital Markets
    $60 million
    Q2 FY25

    The RLTC margin benefited from capital market activities, including securitization and loan sales.

    Non-GAAP Operating Expenses
    Consistent with Q2 levelsConsistent with Q2
    Q3 FY25 and Q4 FY25

    Management expects non-GAAP operating expenses to remain roughly flat from Q2 levels for the next two quarters.

    0% Loans
    Noticeable increase
    Q2 FY25

    The company observed a significant increase in 0% APR loans, which are slightly lower margin but also carry a lower credit loss profile.

    Affirm Card GMV as % of Total GMV
    Over 8%
    Q2 FY25

    The Affirm Card's contribution to total GMV has grown to over 8%.

    Affirm App Search to Transaction Initiation Rate
    30%Up from 25% a quarter or two ago
    Q2 FY25

    The conversion rate from searches to transaction initiations within the Affirm app has increased.

    Affirm App Searches
    Close to hundreds of thousandsRising rapidly
    Q2 FY25

    The Affirm app is seeing a high and rapidly increasing volume of searches for deals.

    Headcount Efficiency
    Ongoing

    AI tools are being used to enhance productivity across various departments (legal, compliance, accounting, marketing), allowing the company to do more with less and focus on hiring specialists rather than expanding overall headcount.

    Funding Cost
    Beneficiary of market conditions
    Q2 FY25

    The company acknowledges benefiting from favorable market conditions for funding, alongside its differentiated credit performance.

    Affirm Cardholders
    1.7 million
    Q2 FY25

    The number of active Affirm Cardholders.

    E-commerce Coverage Aspiration
    Dangerously close to 100%
    Long-term

    Affirm aspires to achieve nearly complete coverage of e-commerce checkouts.

    Industry KPIs

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    MetricValueDetails
    Funding costBeneficiary of market conditions
    Active consumers23%%

    Product announcements

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    ProductTypeDetails
    Affirm App Redesignupdate
    Shopify Integration in UKlaunch
    GoodRx Partnershiplaunch

    Deals & partnerships

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    Sixth StreetCapital markets partnership for funding

    A significant capital markets partnership that is expected to ramp up over the course of the next year, carefully scaling to its maximum levels.

    Risks & headwinds

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    Macroeconomic uncertainty and credit card lender pullbackCalendar 2025

    Credit card lenders providing weaker 2025 guidance and tightening credit underwriting.

    Mitigation: Affirm's product structure allows for quick reaction to macroeconomic shifts; disciplined, transaction-level underwriting means less exposure to past mistakes of overextending consumers. The company does not loosen credit standards for growth.

    Regulatory and political environment (CFPB, tariffs)Ongoing

    Potential impacts from CFPB director departure, tariffs, or interest rate policies.

    Mitigation: Affirm is guided by its mission of honest financial products (no late fees, no compounding interest) and operates consistently across administrations. Tariffs tend to have inflationary impacts, and Affirm helps customers afford necessities during inflation.

    What to watch in Q3 FY25

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    Sixth Street Partnership Ramp-up

    Next year (starting H2 FY25)
    CurrentExpected to ramp over the next year
    TargetInitial ramp-up progress

    Why it matters

    This partnership is a significant leap forward for Affirm's funding program and its successful ramp-up is crucial for scaling GMV targets.

    Yes, it should ramp over the course of the next year. So we're not planning on turning it up all the way to its maximum levels overnight. We'll be very thoughtful about scaling it carefully over the course of next year.

    Q&A highlights

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    How is Affirm deploying the noticeable increase in 0% loans? Are they opening new merchant doors, targeting specific verticals, or for existing partners?

    The strategy is 'all of the above.' Merchants use 0% APR to channel promotional dollars without discounting prices. Affirm has industrialized this and is syndicating these offers across its app, card, and wallets, enhancing the network's value and consumer reach.

    The network is valuable because it is aware of the SKUs, aware of the transactions and delivers great, unique reasons for people to buy -- for consumers to buy on every surface where we play. So we'll see more of this.

    asked by Ramsey El-Assal · answered by Max Levchin

    3 min read7 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

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    0% APR Loan Strategy and Merchant Partnerships

    Affirm observed a noticeable increase in 0% APR loans, which are programs where merchants or manufacturers subsidize interest for borrowers. This strategy allows merchants to offer promotions without compromising pricing integrity, channeling promotional dollars into reduced APRs instead of discounts (e.g., typical 10%-20% off). The company has industrialized tools for merchants to easily implement these programs. These offers are now syndicated across all Affirm surfaces, including the app, card, and integrated wallets, enhancing the network's value by providing unique reasons for consumers to buy.

    02

    Capital Markets and Funding Strategy

    The company expressed pride in its capital markets execution, highlighting the Sixth Street partnership as a significant leap forward. Management emphasized a thoughtful approach to scaling its capital program, aiming for durability across multiple economic scenarios by leveraging forward flow agreements with private credit and insurance companies, while also maintaining a strong reputation in ABS markets. The funding cost benefits seen in Q2 were attributed to favorable market conditions and Affirm's differentiated credit performance, which has improved conversations with capital partners.

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    Active Customer Growth and Engagement

    Active customers grew 23% year-over-year, marking four consecutive quarters of acceleration. This growth is attributed to a deliberate focus on increasing direct-to-consumer engagement through the Affirm Card and app, as well as expanding e-commerce coverage. The company noted that this acceleration is not due to changes in credit underwriting standards, but rather a result of compounding efforts to re-engage dormant consumers and improve conversion.

    04

    AI Adoption and Operational Efficiency

    Affirm has been using machine learning and AI since its inception for underwriting and fraud prevention. The company is actively investing in modern transformer architecture approaches for model building, particularly in fighting fraud. AI tools are also being deployed for productivity across various departments like legal, compliance, accounting, and marketing, enabling the company to achieve operating leverage and focus on hiring higher-caliber specialists without necessarily expanding overall headcount. For example, AI can quickly analyze hundreds of thousands of merchant contracts for product launch feasibility.

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    Affirm App and Card Strategy

    The Affirm app is being redesigned to enhance utility and act as a marketplace for deals, particularly 0% APR offers. The 'deals tab' in the app is fielding hundreds of thousands of searches per week, with a search-to-transaction initiation rate clipping 30%. The Affirm Card, which now accounts for over 8% of total GMV, is seen as a product for the company's best consumers who fully embrace Affirm's value proposition. The company aims to expand card use cases beyond large purchases to everyday spending categories like groceries and medicine, as evidenced by a new partnership with GoodRx.

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    International Expansion and Market Share

    Affirm is in the early stages of its UK launch, with initial results described as 'pleased but not satisfied.' Shopify is noted as the first major enterprise-scale integration expected to go live in the UK soon. Management believes there is significant market pull for longer-term loans (e.g., 24-month, 36-month) in the UK, as incumbent banks are less willing to approve such products and pure-play competitors are not active in that space. The company believes it is taking market share in the US and sees a 'target-rich environment' for international growth, with sales pipelines well-filled.

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    Macroeconomic Outlook and Credit Underwriting

    Management maintains a disciplined approach to credit underwriting, assessing consumer financial health for every transaction and focusing on shorter terms. They emphasize that growth is not driven by loosening credit standards, but by merchant partnerships and product initiatives. The US consumer is currently viewed as healthy, with high employment and strong loan repayment. The company is prepared to adjust quickly to macroeconomic shifts, noting that its product structure allows for rapid response to changing conditions. They are not concerned by 'higher for longer' interest rates, having operated successfully in the current rate environment.

    AI-generated summary of the company’s earnings call. Not investment advice.