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    Earnings call· Dec 2024(Q4 FY24)

    AMERIPRISE FINANCIAL Q4 FY24 earnings call AMP

    Jan 30, 2025 Source

    Executive summary

    Ameriprise Financial Q4 FY24 — Record Client Assets and Strong Capital Returns

    Ameriprise Financial concluded an excellent year with strong Q4 FY24 results, driven by robust client engagement and market appreciation. The company achieved record client assets and adviser productivity, while its Asset Management segment underwent a transformation to enhance efficiency and adapt to evolving market demands. Management emphasized consistent capital returns and strategic investments in technology and new product offerings, positioning the firm for continued organic growth despite a competitive environment and anticipated slower rate cuts.

    Highlights

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    • Total revenues were $4.5 billion, up 13% YoY, driven by strong asset growth and transactional activity.

    • Adjusted operating EPS increased 23% to $9.54, excluding specific items.

    • Assets under management, administration and advisement grew to $1.5 trillion, up 10% YoY.

    • Total client assets grew to a record $1 trillion at year-end, up 14% YoY.

    • Wrap flows grew significantly, up 59% to more than $11 billion, representing an 8% annualized flow rate.

    • Returned $768 million to shareholders in the quarter, totaling $2.8 billion for the year.

    Concerns

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    • Institutional net outflows of $3.9 billion in Asset Management, excluding legacy insurance partner flows.

    • Slower pace for Fed rate cuts expected in 2025.

    • Competitive marketplace for adviser recruiting.

    Guidance & targets

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    CategoryTargetConfidence
    Corporate G&A expense
    $85M-$95M
    medium materiality
    Medium

    Segment performance

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    SegmentRevenueYoYQoQMargin
    Wealth Management
    Strong growth driven by client asset appreciation, inflows, and increased transactional activity, leading to record client assets and adviser productivity. Margins remained strong.
    Total client assets: $1TTotal client assets growth YoY: 14%Total client inflows: $11.3BWrap assets: $574BWrap assets growth YoY: 18%Wrap flows: $11.1BWrap flows growth YoY: 59%Wrap flows annualized rate: 8%Revenue per adviser: $1MRevenue per adviser growth YoY: 13%Pretax adjusted operating earnings: $823MPretax adjusted operating earnings growth YoY: 18%Client sweep balances: $29.8BClient sweep balances sequential change: +$2.3BTotal cash balances (incl. 3rd party MMFs and broker CDs): $85.4BTotal cash balances as % of client assets: >8%
    $2.8B18%29%
    Asset Management
    Very strong financial results driven by proactive expense management and strong markets, offsetting outflows. Margins significantly improved. The segment is undergoing a transformation to enhance efficiency and broaden investment capabilities.
    Assets under management and advisement (AUM/AUA): $681BAUM/AUA growth YoY: 3%Operating earnings: $251MOperating earnings growth YoY: 29%Net inflows: $1.3BNet inflows improvement YoY: >$6BRetail net inflows: $6.1BInstitutional net outflows (excl. legacy insurance partner flows): $3.9BModel delivery inflows (for the year): ~$3BAssets under advisement (model delivery): >$35B
    10%39%
    Retirement & Protection Solutions
    Delivered strong earnings and free cash flow, benefiting from stronger interest earnings and higher equity markets, partially offset by higher distribution expense from strong sales trends.
    Pretax adjusted operating earnings: $213MPretax adjusted operating earnings growth YoY: 5%Protection sales: $91MProtection sales growth YoY: 26%Variable annuity sales: $1.2BVariable annuity sales growth YoY: 15%
    Corporate (Long-term care)
    Pretax adjusted operating earnings, excluding unlocking. Results reflected higher closed claims and new premium rate increases.
    $21M

    Operational metrics

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    Adjusted operating EPS
    $9.54up 23%
    Q4 FY24

    Excluding severance expense, mark-to-market impacts on share-based compensation, and a prior year regulatory accrual and unlocking.

    Total revenues
    $4.5Bup 13%
    Q4 FY24

    Driven by strong asset growth and transactional activity.

    Adjusted operating earnings
    $965Mup 18%
    Q4 FY24

    Company-wide adjusted operating earnings.

    Return on equity (ROE)
    52.7%up from 49.7% a year ago
    Q4 FY24

    Industry-leading ROE.

    Capital returned to shareholders
    $768M81% of operating earnings
    Q4 FY24

    Capital returned in the quarter.

    Capital returned to shareholders
    $2.8B78% of operating earnings
    FY24

    Total capital returned for the full year.

    Capital returned to shareholders
    ~$12B
    Last 5 years

    Substantial amount of capital returned over the last five years.

    Share count reduction
    22%
    Last 5 years

    Resulting from capital return strategy.

    Excess capital
    $2B
    Q4 FY24

    Strong balance sheet fundamentals.

    Consolidated margin
    27%
    Q4 FY24

    Company-wide consolidated margin.

    Bank portfolio fixed rate securities
    87%up from 75% at start of quarter
    Q4 FY24

    Repositioned approximately 1/3 of floating rate securities into fixed rate.

    Bank portfolio repositioning impact
    ~$20M
    Q4 FY24

    Impact from Fed funds rate cuts and portfolio repositioning, offset by core business growth and strong equity markets.

    Long-term care pretax adjusted operating earnings
    $62M
    FY24

    Excluding unlocking.

    General and administrative expenses
    $1.7Bup 5%
    FY24

    In line with expectations, reflecting investment for growth and higher volume-related expenses.

    Assets under management, administration and advisement
    $1.5Tup 10%
    Q4 FY24

    Benefiting from strong client flows and equity market appreciation.

    Revenue growth
    8%
    5 years CAGR

    Compounded annual growth rate over the past 5 years.

    EPS growth
    17%
    5 years CAGR

    Compounded annual growth rate over the past 5 years.

    Return on equity (ROE) improvement
    14 percentage points
    5 years

    Improvement over the past 5 years.

    Advisers recruited
    91nice increase
    Q4 FY24

    Experienced productive advisers, recruited during a slower time of the year for recruiting.

    Funds above median
    nearly 70%
    Year-end

    Percentage of funds globally above the median across 1- and 3-year time frames.

    Funds outperformed
    80% or more
    Year-end

    Percentage of funds that outperformed for the 5- and 10-year period.

    Columbia Threadneedle funds with 4- and 5-star Morningstar ratings
    108
    Q4 FY24

    Total number of funds earning 4- and 5-star Morningstar ratings.

    Client satisfaction
    4.9 out of 5
    Q4 FY24

    Client satisfaction rating.

    Forbes Best in State Wealth Management teams ranking
    427record
    2024

    Number of teams on the Forbes Best in State Wealth Management teams 2024 ranking.

    Adviser recommendation of Ameriprise
    90%
    Recent field survey

    Percentage of advisers who recommend Ameriprise as a great place to work or affiliate with.

    Bank balances
    >$23B
    Q4 FY24

    Total balances in the Ameriprise bank.

    Industry KPIs

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    MetricValueDetails
    Pretax margin27%%
    Net interest income

    Product announcements

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    ProductTypeDetails
    Fixed Pledge Loanslaunch
    HELOCslaunch
    CDslaunch
    Checking Accountslaunch
    Active ETF lineupexpansion
    SMA and Model Delivery businessesexpansion

    Risks & headwinds

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    Slower pace for Fed rate cuts2025

    Fed lowered interest rates for the third time in late 2024, but slower pace expected for 2025.

    Mitigation: Bank portfolio repositioned to 87% fixed-rate securities with a 5% yield and 3-year duration; client crediting rates adjusted.

    Institutional net outflows in Asset ManagementOngoing

    $3.9B in Q4 FY24 (excluding legacy insurance partner flows)

    Mitigation: Broadening investment capabilities, building active ETF lineup, growing SMA and model delivery businesses, increasing consultant approvals, expanding in Japan.

    Competitive marketplace for adviser recruitingOngoing

    Not quantified, but described as 'very competitive marketplace'.

    Mitigation: Maintaining high adviser satisfaction (90% recommend Ameriprise), strong recruiting pipeline, investing in technology and capabilities to enhance adviser productivity.

    Regulatory constraints on AI deploymentOngoing

    Not quantified, but described as 'highly regulated space'.

    Mitigation: Careful consideration of information usage, strong governance process, learning and testing before broader deployment.

    What to watch in Q1 FY25

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    Bank Net Interest Income (NII) trajectory

    FY25
    CurrentQ4 FY24 NII down sequentially and YoY
    TargetSustained good NII in FY25

    Why it matters

    NII is a key profitability driver for the bank segment, and its stability impacts overall firm earnings.

    I would say we're well positioned, as we go into '25 to certainly continue to generate good net interest income.

    Q&A highlights

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    Asked if 2025 NII is still expected to be above 2024, given sequential and YoY declines in Q4.

    Walter Berman stated the bank repositioned its portfolio to 87% fixed-rate securities, grew deposits by $2.3 billion, and adjusted client crediting rates in January. He expressed confidence in sustaining good NII in 2025, noting the bank is well-positioned to navigate rate changes.

    I would say we're well positioned, as we go into '25 to certainly continue to generate good net interest income.

    asked by Suneet Kamath · answered by Walter Berman

    2 min read6 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

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    Strong Financial Performance and Capital Returns

    Ameriprise delivered a strong Q4 FY24, with total revenues up 13% to $4.5 billion and adjusted operating EPS increasing 23% to $9.54. The company achieved an industry-leading return on equity of 52.7%. Ameriprise returned $768 million to shareholders in the quarter, totaling $2.8 billion for the year, and nearly $12 billion over the last five years, resulting in a 22% share count reduction. The firm maintains a strong balance sheet with $2 billion of excess capital and a stable 90% free cash flow generation.

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    Wealth Management Growth and Adviser Productivity

    Total client assets reached a record $1 trillion, up 14% YoY, driven by strong client inflows of $11.3 billion. Wrap assets grew 18% to $574 billion, with wrap flows at an all-time high of $11.1 billion, representing an 8% annualized flow rate. Adviser productivity increased 13% to over $1 million per adviser, supported by consistent investments in best-in-class capabilities and technology. Client satisfaction remains excellent at 4.9 out of 5, and 90% of advisers recommend Ameriprise.

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    Asset Management Transformation and Flow Dynamics

    Assets under management and advisement increased 3% to $681 billion. The segment reported net inflows of $1.3 billion, a significant improvement from the prior year, primarily driven by $6.1 billion in retail net inflows. Institutional net outflows of $3.9 billion (excluding legacy insurance partner flows) were noted. The company is completing a two-year transformation to enhance efficiency and broaden investment capabilities, including building out its active ETF lineup and further growing its SMA and model delivery businesses, which now have over $35 billion in assets under advisement.

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    Bank Expansion and NII Outlook

    The bank generated attractive earnings with balances growing to over $23 billion. New products like fixed pledge loans (Q1 FY25 launch), HELOCs (Q2 FY25 launch), CDs, and checking accounts (later in FY25) are planned to expand the product set and increase balances. Management expressed confidence in sustaining good net interest income in 2025, having repositioned 87% of the bank's portfolio into fixed-rate securities with a 5% yield and a 3-year duration, and adjusted client crediting rates.

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    Technology and AI Initiatives

    Ameriprise has been deploying intelligent automation and robotics for a while, continuously increasing their application across the business for greater efficiency. The company is also actively testing and deploying generative AI in various use cases, including enhancing adviser productivity, improving client service interactions, and strengthening research capabilities in Asset Management. While early, these initiatives are expected to yield further efficiencies over time, operating within a highly regulated framework with robust governance processes.

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    Retirement & Protection Solutions Performance

    This segment continued to deliver strong earnings and free cash flow, reflecting the high quality of the business. Pretax adjusted operating earnings increased 5% to $213 million in the quarter, reaching $816 million for the full year. Protection sales grew 26% to $91 million, primarily in higher-margin DUL products, and variable annuity sales were up 15% to $1.2 billion, reflecting strong sales trends and effective product offerings that meet comprehensive client needs.

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