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    Earnings call· Jun 2025(Q2 FY25)

    AMERICAN EXPRESS Q2 FY25 earnings call AXP

    Jul 18, 2025 Source

    Executive summary

    American Express Q2 FY25 — Record Revenue and Strong EPS, Reaffirming Full-Year Guidance

    American Express delivered a strong second quarter, marked by record revenues and robust EPS growth, leading to a reaffirmation of its full-year guidance despite a slightly softer travel and entertainment spend. The company continues to leverage its premium card strategy, with upcoming refreshes and strong customer acquisition, while maintaining a resilient credit portfolio and healthy capital position. Management highlighted the continued strength of its business model amidst macroeconomic uncertainties.

    Highlights

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    • Record revenues reached $17.9 billion, up 9% year-over-year.

    • Earnings per share were $4.08, up 17% (excluding prior year's Accertify gain).

    • Preliminary stress capital buffer requirement set at the lowest permissible level of 2.5%.

    • Net card fees reached record levels, up 20% FX-adjusted.

    • Return on Equity (ROE) was 36% in the quarter.

    Concerns

    3
    • Softer airline and lodging spend contributed to T&E growth being down slightly versus Q1.

    • A reserve build of $222 million reflected a worse macroeconomic outlook.

    • Operating expenses, excluding Accertify, were up 9% in the quarter, higher than initial expectations.

    Guidance & targets

    5
    CategoryTargetConfidence
    Full year revenue growth
    8% to 10%
    high materiality
    High
    Full year earnings per share
    $15 to $15.50
    high materiality
    High
    Full year OpEx growth (excluding Accertify)
    mid-single digits
    medium materiality
    Medium
    Card fee growth rate
    moderate
    medium materiality
    High
    Card fee growth rate
    accelerate
    medium materiality
    High

    Operational metrics

    38
    Revenue growth
    9%YoY
    Q2 FY25

    FX-adjusted

    Revenue
    $17.9Brecord
    Q2 FY25
    Earnings per share
    $4.08up 17% YoY
    Q2 FY25

    excluding last year's gain from the sale of Accertify

    Total Card Member spending growth
    7%YoY
    Q2 FY25

    consistent with pattern seen this year

    Transaction growth
    9%YoY
    Q2 FY25
    New cards acquired
    3.1M
    Q2 FY25
    New cards acquired
    1.5M
    per quarter

    over the past few quarters

    Loans and Card Member receivables growth
    6%YoY
    Q2 FY25

    FX-adjusted, similar pace to billed business

    Total provision expense
    $1.4B
    Q2 FY25
    Reserve build
    $222M
    Q2 FY25

    reflecting growth in loan volume and a worse macroeconomic outlook

    Net card fees growth
    20%YoY
    Q2 FY25

    FX-adjusted, reached record levels

    Net card fees growth
    17%
    annual

    average annual growth

    Net interest income growth
    double-digit
    Q2 FY25
    Net interest income growth drivers
    >50%
    since 2019
    Operating expenses growth
    9%YoY
    Q2 FY25

    excluding Accertify, higher than expected

    Operating expenses as percentage of revenue
    21%down from 25% in 2023
    Q2 FY25

    4 points of operating leverage since 2023

    CET1 ratio
    10.6%
    Q2 FY25

    within 10%-11% target range

    Capital returned to shareholders
    $2B
    Q2 FY25
    Dividends
    $0.6B
    Q2 FY25

    part of capital returned

    Share repurchases
    $1.4B
    Q2 FY25

    part of capital returned

    Return on Equity (ROE)
    36%
    Q2 FY25
    Millennial spend growth
    10%
    Q2 FY25
    Gen Z spend growth
    40%
    Q2 FY25

    starting from a smaller base

    International business growth
    12%YoY
    Q2 FY25

    FX-adjusted

    Spend retention
    98%
    Q2 FY25

    remains very high after refreshes

    Card portfolio revenue growth
    >30%
    Q2 FY25
    Card fee revenue growth
    >60%
    Q2 FY25
    Delinquency rate
    flatvs Q1
    Q2 FY25
    Write-off rate
    declined
    Q2 FY25
    Delinquency rate vs industry average
    40% better
    Q2 FY25

    compared to industry average for older age groups

    ROA in CCAR
    highest
    annual

    across all banks subject to stress test

    Credit card loss rate in CCAR
    lowest
    annual

    across all banks subject to stress test

    Marketing growth
    mid-single digits
    Q2 FY25
    EPS YTD
    $7.71
    YTD Q2 FY25
    Goods and services spending as % of total business
    >70%
    Q2 FY25
    Net interest income growth drivers
    ~50%
    since 2019
    VCE growth
    bit faster than revenue
    Q2 FY25
    VCE ratio to revenue
    slightly tick up
    over time

    due to mix shift towards premium products

    Industry KPIs

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    MetricValueDetails
    Fee revenue20%%
    Funding mix
    Delinquenciesflat
    Capital returns$2BUSD
    Credit quality mix
    Net charge off ratedeclined
    Loans card receivables6%%
    Provision reserve rate$1.4BUSD
    Rewards engagement costs
    New accounts card acquisitions3.1Munits
    Billed business purchase volume7%%
    Net interest margin yield on receivables

    Product announcements

    1
    ProductTypeDetails
    U.S. Consumer and Business Platinum Cardsupdate

    Deals & partnerships

    3
    CoinbaseAllows customers to earn digital currency as rewards and provides an off-ramp for digital currencies.

    Partnership provides an off-ramp for digital currencies and allows customers to earn digital currency.

    AmazonLoss of credit card portfolio.

    American Express lost the Amazon credit card portfolio due to economic reasons, along with Lowe's.

    Lowe'sLoss of credit card portfolio.

    American Express lost the Lowe's credit card portfolio due to economic reasons, along with Amazon.

    Risks & headwinds

    5
    Softer airline and lodging spendQ2 FY25

    T&E growth down a bit versus Q1.

    Mitigation: Resilience in goods and services spending, strong growth in restaurant spending, and continued strength in international and younger cohorts.

    Worse macroeconomic outlookQ2 FY25

    Led to a reserve build of $222 million.

    Mitigation: Strong credit performance across all age groups, low delinquency and write-off rates, and resilient business model demonstrated by CCAR results.

    SMBs being circumspectQ2 FY25

    Billings probably not where we want them to be.

    Mitigation: Revenue, credit metrics, lending book, and fee-based business from SMB segment remain strong.

    Intense competition in premium card marketOngoing

    Competition has been "especially heated for over a decade," with competitors "copying your value proposition."

    Mitigation: AXP's long-standing leadership, continuous product refreshes, unique multifaceted membership-focused business model, and focus on delivering superior value and customer service.

    Overcrowding in airport loungesOngoing

    Concerns about lounge access and overcrowding.

    Mitigation: Expanding existing lounges, developing satellite locations (e.g., Sidecar in Vegas), working with partners like Delta to manage traffic, and providing priority access.

    What to watch in Q3 FY25

    5

    Platinum refresh impact on card fees

    New year in 2026
    CurrentCosts of Card Member services expected to increase in Q4 FY25.
    TargetInflection point and acceleration in card fee growth.

    Why it matters

    The Platinum refresh is a key strategic initiative, and its financial impact on card fees is crucial for revenue growth.

    it's only sometimes in the new year in 2026 that you should see that inflection point and a bit more acceleration.

    Q&A highlights

    6

    How is AXP planning for intermediate-term spending trends, what will drive acceleration, and how does the Amazon portfolio loss impact SMB?

    Management expects consistent spending, noting resilience in goods/services and Gen Z/millennial spend despite softer T&E. The Amazon/Lowe's portfolio changes were due to economic fit and are not expected to significantly impact SMB, which remains strong in revenue, credit, and fee-based business despite lower billings. New card originations support billing growth.

    We're just going to ride this out as it is, and I think it's going to continue to be very, very consistent.

    asked by Sanjay Sakhrani · answered by Stephen Squeri

    2 min read6 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

    01

    CCAR Results and Capital Strength

    American Express received a preliminary stress capital buffer requirement of 2.5%, the lowest permissible level, demonstrating the company's resilient business model, strong capital position, and lowest projected credit card loss rates among all banks subject to CCAR. This underscores the company's ability to manage capital effectively and return excess capital to shareholders, with a CET1 ratio of 10.6% within its target range and an ROE of 36%.

    02

    Premium Card Strategy and Refreshes

    The company is preparing for a refresh of its U.S. Consumer and Business Platinum Cards in the fall, following successful refreshes of Gold, Delta, and Hilton Cards which drove double-digit account growth and over 30% revenue growth, with card fee revenues up at least 60%. This strategy focuses on enriching value propositions with differentiated benefits and world-class partners, aiming to sustain leadership in the growing premium segment, where spend retention remains very high at 98%.

    03

    International Growth and Acceptance

    International business continued to show strong double-digit growth, up 12% FX-adjusted, driven by focus on key markets and improving acceptance. The company continues to add millions of merchants internationally, seeing significant growth potential in premium products and the nascent small business market outside the U.S. Management noted that international markets often price premium products higher than in the U.S. and offer a large runway for growth.

    04

    SMB Segment Performance

    While small business billings are not at desired levels due to circumspect spending, revenue, credit metrics, lending book, and fee-based business from this segment remain strong. Management noted that SMBs are likely more cautious than consumers and may need more economic assurance for billings to accelerate. Despite this, the overall performance of the SMB segment is satisfactory.

    05

    Digital Currencies and Stablecoins

    American Express is actively exploring the role of stablecoins in payment systems, particularly for cross-border transactions for SMBs and large corporations. The recent partnership with Coinbase provides an off-ramp for digital currencies and allows customers to earn digital currency rewards, indicating a strategic interest in the evolving digital asset space. Management believes stablecoins could simplify cross-border business by avoiding currency conversion, but will not replace existing payment rails due to their inherent benefits like rewards and dispute resolution.

    06

    Expense Management and Operating Leverage

    The company manages its expense base with variable customer engagement (VCE) growing faster than revenue due to premium product mix shift, while driving leverage from marketing and OpEx over time. Operating expenses as a percentage of revenue decreased from 25% in 2023 to 21% in Q2 FY25, demonstrating 4 points of operating leverage. Management expects the VCE ratio to slightly tick up over time as the portfolio trends more towards premium and fee-paying products.

    AI-generated summary of the company’s earnings call. Not investment advice.