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    Earnings call· Mar 2025(Q1 FY25)

    Bloom Energy Q1 FY25 earnings call BE

    Apr 30, 2025 Source

    Executive summary

    Bloom Energy Q1 FY25 — Record Q1 Revenue and Positive Non-GAAP EPS

    Bloom Energy delivered its best first quarter in history, driven by strong execution and robust demand from AI data centers and large-load advanced manufacturing. The company reiterated its full-year guidance, confident in its ability to mitigate tariff impacts through cost reduction and leverage its diversified customer base and resilient supply chain. While consumer-facing C&I decision cycles may stretch, the overall demand for on-site power remains strong, with utilities increasingly partnering to meet this need.

    Highlights

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    • Record revenue for a first quarter of $326 million, up 39% year-over-year.

    • First ever positive Q1 non-GAAP EPS of $0.03 per share, compared to a loss of $0.17 per share a year ago.

    • Fifth consecutive quarter of service profitability, with continued improvement expected.

    • Non-GAAP gross margin of 28.7%, more than 1,000 basis points higher than Q1 FY24.

    Concerns

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    • Tariffs expected to have up to a 100 basis point impact on gross margin for the year, though mitigation efforts are underway.

    • Consumer-facing commercial and industrial businesses may stretch out decision-making cycles due to economic uncertainty.

    • CFO Daniel Berenbaum is exiting the company on May 1st, with an interim appointment and search for a permanent CFO underway.

    Guidance & targets

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    CategoryTargetConfidence
    Full-year 2025 revenue
    $1.65 billion to $1.85 billion
    high materiality
    High
    Full-year 2025 non-GAAP gross margin
    approximately 29%
    high materiality
    High
    Full-year 2025 non-GAAP operating income
    approximately $150 million
    high materiality
    High
    Full-year 2025 cash flow from operations
    positive, around the same levels as we saw in 2024
    medium materiality
    Medium
    Full-year 2025 CapEx
    around the same levels as 2024
    medium materiality
    Medium
    Full-year 2025 revenue split
    roughly 40-60 first half, second half
    low materiality
    Medium

    Operational metrics

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    Non-GAAP Revenue
    $326 millionup 39% year-over-year
    Q1 FY25

    Record revenue for a first quarter.

    Non-GAAP Gross Margin
    28.7%more than 1,000 basis points higher than 17.5% in Q1 FY24
    Q1 FY25

    Attributable to product mix and level-loaded manufacturing, taking advantage of balance sheet and customer demand visibility.

    Non-GAAP Operating Income
    $13.2 millionversus $30.7 million deficit in Q1 FY24
    Q1 FY25

    Positive operating income.

    Non-GAAP EBITDA
    $25.2 millionversus negative $18.2 million in Q1 FY24
    Q1 FY25

    Positive EBITDA.

    Non-GAAP EPS
    $0.03versus loss of $0.17 per share a year ago
    Q1 FY25

    First ever positive Q1 non-GAAP EPS.

    Services Profitability
    profitablefifth consecutive quarter
    Q1 FY25

    Critical part of the business with long tail in backlog; expected to continue improving due to technology, scale, and AI-assisted execution.

    Cost Reduction Projects
    100
    ongoing

    Routinely reviewed on a weekly basis, part of company DNA to optimize and reduce cost.

    Scandium Sourcing
    from multiple geographies and multiple continents
    ongoing

    Not dependent on China; complete confidence in supply for foreseeable future from multiple sources.

    Megawatts Shipped Disclosure
    ongoing

    Stopped reporting specific megawatts shipped as it's not how the business is run and is less useful information due to varying costs and prices per megawatt based on configuration.

    Manufacturing Facilities
    2
    ongoing

    Both located in the United States, producing 'Made in America' products.

    Material Spend Origin
    not from China
    ongoing

    Majority of material spend is in custom-made components unique to Bloom, providing control over pricing and sourcing.

    Fuel Cell Operating Lifetime (typical)
    5 years
    typical

    Average life of fuel cell units, which are replaced during longer contracts while the rest of the system operates.

    Manufacturing Facility Construction Spending (US)
    $250 billion3x average of $85 billion/year in 2000s and 2010s
    FY23, FY24, expected FY25

    Driven by CHIPS Act, Infrastructure Act, cheaper energy, and supply chain shortening; these factories need to be powered up.

    Data Center Power Demand (estimated)
    >15 gigawatts
    2025

    Estimated power needed for $600 billion to $700 billion worth of committed spend in 2025 by 'Tech-7' and national initiatives.

    Gas Grid Infrastructure Timing
    2 to 9 months
    typical

    Timeframe for secondary trunks from high-pressure to medium-pressure lines, depending on location; not expected to be the 'long pole in the tent' for data center facilitization.

    Industry KPIs

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    MetricValueDetails
    Data center exposure pipelineno slowdown

    Deals & partnerships

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    Conagra15-year contract for energy servers15 years

    Contract for energy servers, with fuel cell units typically replaced every 5 years during the contract term, providing latest technology.

    AEPPartnership for product deployment to customers

    Working with AEP on product deployment, bullish on the partnership. AEP feels confident signed projects will go through and has a robust pipeline.

    Multiple utilitiesWorking with several other electric and gas utilities for product deployment

    Working with several other utilities, both electric and gas, for product deployment. Announcements are made when they materialize and are permitted by the customer.

    Risks & headwinds

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    Tariff ImpactFY25

    Up to 100 basis points impact on gross margin for the year

    Mitigation: Supply chain diversification, U.S. manufacturing, continuous cost reduction efforts to mitigate adverse impact and maintain guidance.

    Economic Uncertainty (Consumer-facing C&I)

    Decision-making cycles may stretch out

    Mitigation: Diversification of customer base provides resilience; keeping a close eye on this segment.

    CFO Transitionnear-term

    Daniel Berenbaum exiting on May 1st

    Mitigation: Interim Principal Financial Officer appointed (Maciej Kurzymski), search for permanent CFO underway; strong leadership team and capable finance organization.

    Regulatory Bottlenecks (Gas Grid Infrastructure)short-term to medium-term

    Interconnection times for gas lines can be 2 to 9 months depending on location

    Mitigation: Not expected to be the 'long pole in the tent' for data center facilitization, as customer build times are similar; regulators are catching up to market needs.

    What to watch in Q2 FY25

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    Tariff Impact on Gross Margin

    next quarter
    CurrentUp to 100 bps impact expected for FY25
    TargetGross margin maintained at ~29%

    Why it matters

    Verifying the effectiveness of mitigation strategies against tariff headwinds🌐 is crucial for full-year profitability.

    If the current tariff structure continues throughout the year, we expect to see up to a 100 basis point impact on our gross margin for the year. Cost reduction is in our DNA, and we will work extra hard to mitigate the adverse impact through innovations and efficiency improvements. As of now, we remain committed to our margin and profit guidance for 2025.

    Q&A highlights

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    Is there any shift to the right in data center project timing, and how are tariffs factored into the reiterated gross margin guidance? Also, why is Dan leaving?

    K.R. expressed strong confidence in meeting guidance, noting the 'debate is over' regarding the necessity of on-site power for data centers. He stated the 100 bps tariff impact would be mitigated by internal cost reductions, maintaining the 29% gross margin guidance. Dan declined to elaborate on his departure.

    We are going to take this externality and make it a challenge to find that 100 basis points and other activities we do and speed it up and not use tariffs as an excuse to not meet our guidance.

    asked by Andrew Percoco · answered by K. Sridhar

    2 min read7 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

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    AI Data Center Demand & Megatrend

    Bloom Energy observes no slowdown in the AI data center sector, with major cloud service providers remaining committed to significant investments in capacity growth and associated power needs. Management believes the substantial 'gigawatt gap' means that even potential short-term economic slowdowns will not materially impact Bloom's growth in this market, characterizing the current environment as an 'investment super cycle' validated by strong customer activity.

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    Commercial & Industrial Business Dynamics

    The commercial and industrial (C&I) segment is bifurcated. Large-load advanced manufacturing, including AI-related hardware, semiconductors, and essential services like hospitals, shows robust activity, driven by reshoring and U.S. industrial growth. Conversely, consumer-facing businesses, such as retail, may experience extended decision-making cycles due to economic uncertainty, though this segment represents a smaller portion of Bloom's overall business.

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    International Expansion Strategy

    Bloom's business in Korea continues to perform strongly, and other international markets are expanding from a smaller base. The company is pursuing a strategic, 'rifle approach' to international growth, targeting specific countries like Italy, Germany, and the U.K. in Europe, and Taiwan in Asia. This focus is driven by high AI supply chain growth and grid constraints in these regions, which align well with Bloom's distributed generation solutions.

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    Tariff Impact and Mitigation

    Bloom anticipates a potential 100 basis point impact on its gross margin for the year if current tariff structures persist. However, the company is confident in mitigating this through its diversified, multi-country supply chain (with no dependence on China), U.S.-based manufacturing, and continuous cost reduction initiatives. Management reiterated its full-year gross margin guidance of approximately 29%, emphasizing its commitment to overcoming external challenges🌐.

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    Utility Partnerships for Power Delivery

    Bloom is actively collaborating with multiple utilities, including AEP, to facilitate product deployment. This model is favored for large loads, as utilities can procure Bloom's solutions and deliver power to their customers, often without impacting local ratepayers. Management notes that the grid's constraints make on-site generation a necessity, and utilities are increasingly willing and able to partner, though Bloom remains flexible to direct sales when preferred by customers or regulations.

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    Supply Chain Resilience

    The company highlights its robust and battle-tested supply chain, which successfully navigated the COVID-19 pandemic without part shortages or factory shutdowns. Bloom emphasizes that its critical materials do not originate from contested supply chains or China. The majority of its material spend is on custom-made components from geographically diverse vendors, ensuring resilience and control over sourcing for future growth.

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    CFO Transition

    Daniel Berenbaum will be stepping down as Chief Financial Officer on May 1st. Maciej Kurzymski, Bloom's Chief Accounting Officer for the past four years, will serve as Acting Principal Financial Officer during the search for a permanent CFO. Management expressed confidence in the finance team's ability to maintain performance during this transition.

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