Skip to content
    BMY
    Earnings call· Dec 2024(Q4 FY24)

    BRISTOL MYERS SQUIBB CO BMY

    Feb 6, 2025 Source

    Executive summary

    Bristol-Myers Squibb Q4 FY24 — Strong Growth Portfolio & Accelerated Pipeline

    Bristol-Myers Squibb closed FY24 with strong growth in its diversified portfolio, driven by key assets like Cobenfy, Camzyos, and Opdualag. The company is actively reshaping its cost structure through an expanded productivity initiative while accelerating its late-stage pipeline, aiming for top-tier sustainable growth by the end of the decade. Despite near-term generic impacts and Medicare Part D pressures, management is confident in its strategic investments and operational excellence to deliver long-term value.

    Highlights

    5
    • Growth portfolio delivered double-digit revenue growth in Q4 FY24, up 23%, representing over half of total revenue.

    • Cobenfy launch off to a strong start with approximately 1,000 TRxs per week and over 90% Medicaid access and 80% Medicare access.

    • R&D productivity improvements accelerated several late-stage programs, including Camzyos ODYSSEY (top-line results next quarter), Cobenfy ADEPT-2 (readout H2 2025 vs 2026), and iberdomide EXCALIBER (data readout 2025).

    • Expanded strategic productivity initiative to achieve an additional $2 billion in run-rate operating expense savings by end of 2027, with $1 billion realized in 2025.

    • Eliquis delivered over $3 billion in Q4 sales, with U.S. sales growing 19% due to strong demand and inventory build.

    Concerns

    5
    • Gross margin declined approximately 240 basis points in Q4 FY24, primarily driven by product mix.

    • Expected 18% to 20% decline in the legacy portfolio in FY25 due to stacking of LOEs (Revlimid, Pomalyst, Abraxane, Sprycel) and anticipated $500 million headwind from foreign exchange.

    • Eliquis Q1 U.S. sales growth will be tempered sequentially due to the implementation of the 10% manufacturer responsibility in the initial coverage phase of Medicare Part D redesign.

    • Sotyktu reported sales will be tempered in H1 FY25 due to additional headwinds from higher rebates associated with expanded access coverage.

    • Discontinuation of cendakimab commercialization due to competitive positioning and prioritization of investments.

    Guidance & targets

    18
    CategoryTargetConfidence
    Full-year 2025 Revenue
    approximately $45.5 billion
    high materiality
    High
    Full-year 2025 Non-GAAP EPS
    $6.55 to $6.85
    high materiality
    High
    Full-year 2025 Legacy Portfolio Revenue Decline
    18% to 20%
    medium materiality
    High
    Full-year 2025 FX Headwind
    approximately $500 million
    medium materiality
    High
    Full-year 2025 Gross Margin
    approximately 72%
    medium materiality
    High
    Full-year 2025 Total Operating Expenses (excluding in-process R&D)
    approximately $16 billion
    medium materiality
    High
    Full-year 2025 Operating Margin
    approximately 37%
    medium materiality
    High
    Full-year 2025 Other Income & Expense
    approximately $30 million
    low materiality
    High
    Full-year 2025 Effective Tax Rate
    approximately 18%
    medium materiality
    High
    Eliquis Q1 FY25 Sales Growth
    mid-single-digit sequential growth (globally)
    medium materiality
    High
    Eliquis H2 FY25 Sales
    higher than first half sales
    medium materiality
    High
    Total Company H2 FY25 Revenues
    higher than the first half of the year
    medium materiality
    High
    Opdivo Qvantig Conversion Target
    at least 30% to 40% of IV business
    medium materiality
    Medium
    Expanded Strategic Productivity Initiative Savings
    additional $2 billion
    high materiality
    High
    Expanded Strategic Productivity Initiative Savings (2025)
    approximately $1 billion
    high materiality
    High
    Eliquis Full-year 2025 Growth
    strong double-digit growth
    medium materiality
    High
    Opdivo + Opdivo Qvantig Full-year 2025 Growth
    low single-digit growth
    medium materiality
    High
    Top-tier Sustainable Growth
    achieve top-tier sustainable growth
    high materiality
    High

    Segment performance

    10
    SegmentRevenueYoYQoQMargin
    Growth Portfolio
    Delivered strong double-digit growth in Q4 FY24.
    Revenue contribution: slightly more than half of total revenue
    23%
    Opdivo
    Solid growth in Q4 FY24 primarily due to higher volume. FY25 expected low single-digit growth for Opdivo and Opdivo Qvantig combined.
    solid growth
    Opdualag
    Double-digit growth driven by U.S. demand in first-line melanoma and uptake in newly launched ex-U.S. markets.
    double-digit growth
    Eliquis
    Benefited from continued strong demand and typical inventory build in Q4 FY24. Q1 FY25 U.S. sales growth will be tempered sequentially due to Medicare Part D changes, but H2 FY25 sales expected to be higher than H1. Strong double-digit growth expected for FY25.
    U.S. sales growth: 19% (Q4 FY24)U.S. NBRx market share: roughly 75%
    $3 billion
    Camzyos
    Sales more than doubled in Q4 FY24 benefiting from higher demand and large inventory build. Strong momentum as standard of care in obstructive HCM. Label update in Europe to ease echo monitoring requirements, similar PDUFA date in April for U.S.
    New patients added to commercial drug (Q4 FY24): approximate 1,300Patients in hub (year-end 2024): approximately 12,000Patients on commercial drug (year-end 2024): roughly 9,500
    more than doubled
    Reblozyl
    Reflecting solid uptake across first and second-line MDS-associated anemia patients. U.S. sales benefited from demand and onetime gross-to-net benefit. Ex-U.S. sales more than doubled.
    more than 70%
    Breyanzi
    Q4 FY24 sales more than doubled driven by best-in-class profile and strong demand growth across all approved indications.
    more than doubled
    Sotyktu
    Global sales grew more than 30%. U.S. sales tempered by gross-to-net impacts from higher rebates. Improved access position starting 2025 expected to drive demand growth, but also additional headwinds from higher rebates in H1 FY25.
    U.S. covered lives with 0 step edits (starting 2025): 80%
    more than 30%
    Cobenfy
    Q4 FY24 sales represent roughly 2 months of sales and initial stocking. Strong prescription uptake and favorable feedback. Majority of Medicaid/Medicare access has 1 step edit post generic.
    TRxs per week: approximately 1,000Medicaid access: over 90%Medicare access: over 80%
    $10 million
    Yervoy
    Strong performance in Q4 FY24 and full year 2024. Solid demand growth across core indications (first-line lung, RCC, melanoma). Preparing for launches in first-line HCC and MSI-high CRC in combination with Yervoy in FY25.
    roughly 20%

    Operational metrics

    18
    Strategic Productivity Initiative Savings (2024)
    $1.1 billion
    FY24

    Progress against the initial $1.5 billion strategic productivity initiative.

    Cash Equivalents and Marketable Securities
    $11.2 billion
    as of December 31, 2024

    Strong financial position.

    Debt Repaid
    $6 billion
    as of end of 2024

    Part of the commitment to pay down debt.

    Dividend Payments Streak
    93rd
    2025

    Commitment to returning cash to shareholders through dividends.

    Expanded Strategic Productivity Initiative Savings (Organizational Design)
    50%
    Future

    Proportion of targeted savings from organizational design.

    Expanded Strategic Productivity Initiative Savings (Operational Efficiencies)
    50%
    Future

    Proportion of targeted savings from operational efficiencies.

    New Medicines Launch Potential
    10 or more
    next 5 years

    Part of the company's future growth profile.

    Indication Expansion Opportunities
    over 30
    next 5 years

    Part of the company's future growth profile.

    Schizophrenia Market Share (Generics)
    80%
    current

    Market share held by generic atypicals, highlighting Cobenfy's opportunity.

    Psychiatrists
    roughly 30,000
    current

    Target audience for Cobenfy adoption.

    Medicare Part D Manufacturer Responsibility (Initial Coverage Phase)
    10%
    starting Q1 FY25

    Impacts Eliquis Q1 sales sequentially.

    Medicare Part D Manufacturer Responsibility (Catastrophic Phase)
    20%
    starting Q1 FY25

    Impacts products like Revlimid, Pomalyst, Orencia, Camzyos.

    Camzyos Eligible Patient Population Expansion (non-obstructive HCM)
    about 30%
    future

    Expected expansion with positive ODYSSEY data readout.

    Revlimid Generic Market Share
    70%
    FY25

    Expected market share supplied by generics in FY25.

    Revlimid Full Generic Entry
    full generic entry
    January 2026

    Expected timing of full generic competition.

    Opdivo Qvantig J-code Transition
    July 1
    2025

    Conversion from IV to subcu will accelerate in H2 2025 after transition to permanent J-code.

    Cobenfy Schizophrenia Payer Coverage (Medicaid/Medicare)
    over 80%
    current

    These two payers represent over 80% of covered lives in the schizophrenia category.

    Cobenfy Schizophrenia Payer Coverage (Commercial)
    less than 10%
    current

    Commercial patients are a smaller segment for schizophrenia indication.

    Industry KPIs

    7
    MetricValueDetails
    Prescription volume1,000TRxs per week
    EPS revenue guidanceRevenue: ~$45.5B; Non-GAAP EPS: $6.55-$6.85USD
    Pricing policy impactnet neutral
    Pipeline clinical milestones15 or moreregistrational trials
    Regulatory approvals filingsU.S. approval
    Therapeutic drug market share75%%
    Business development capacity deal appetitetop priority

    Product announcements

    3
    ProductTypeDetails
    Opdivo Qvantiglaunch
    Camzyosupdate
    Cendakimabdiscontinuation

    Deals & partnerships

    1
    Karuna TherapeuticsAcquisition of Karuna to bring Cobenfy into the portfolio.

    Acquisition was driven by compelling science, opportunity to strengthen therapeutic areas, accelerate growth, and disciplined financials. Senior leadership owned the decision, and the company moved quickly to fully develop the asset.

    Risks & headwinds

    6
    Generic impacts on legacy portfolioFY25

    18% to 20% decline in legacy portfolio revenue in FY25

    Mitigation: Focus on growth portfolio and pipeline acceleration.

    Foreign exchange headwindsFY25

    $500 million impact on FY25 revenue

    Mitigation: Not explicitly stated, but included in guidance.

    Medicare Part D redesign impactFY25, particularly Q1

    Eliquis Q1 U.S. sales tempered sequentially due to 10% manufacturer responsibility; increased gross-to-net pressure on Revlimid, Pomalyst, Orencia, Camzyos due to 20% responsibility in catastrophic phase.

    Mitigation: Eliquis H2 sales expected to increase due to coverage gap elimination; overall net neutral impact across portfolio expected.

    Higher rebates for SotyktuH1 FY25

    Tempered reported sales in H1 FY25

    Mitigation: Improved access position (80% covered lives with 0 step edits) expected to drive demand volume to offset impacts.

    Competitive intensity in multiple myelomaOngoing

    Crowded and competitive space with multiple treatment options.

    Mitigation: Commitment to Abecma, focus on optimizing its value, and excitement for Arlo-cel (GPRC5D CAR T) for post-BCMA CAR T treatment.

    Cobenfy GI tolerability and BID dosingOngoing

    Nausea and vomiting mentioned as AEs.

    Mitigation: Physicians starting with lowest dose (50mg) and titrating slowly; ongoing study looking at taking Cobenfy with food to improve ease of prescribing.

    What to watch in Q1 FY25

    5

    Camzyos ODYSSEY study readout

    next quarter (Q1 FY25)
    CurrentEnrollment complete, top-line results expected
    TargetTop-line data readout

    Why it matters

    This data could expand Camzyos' eligible patient population by about 30% into non-obstructive HCM, significantly broadening its market opportunity and reinforcing its first-mover advantage.

    With Camzyos, where we completed enrollment in the ODYSSEY non-obstructive HCM study 6 months earlier than expected and now anticipate top line results next quarter.

    Q&A highlights

    7

    How is Cobenfy expected to ramp in 2025 given physician habits? And will the new cost program be sufficient for long-term model or are more cuts expected post-LOE cycle?

    Cobenfy launch is strong with 1,000 TRxs/week and good access; continued strong uptake expected. The cost program aims to align the organization with business needs, providing financial flexibility, but future adjustments will always be considered to rightsize the organization.

    So we would expect to see continued strong uptake through 2025, and as we said, with the ramp in the back half of this year. But taken together, we are really pleased with what we're seeing so far, and we plan to make this a very big product for the company over time.

    asked by Chris Schott · answered by Adam Lenkowsky

    3 min read6 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

    01

    Cobenfy Launch and Pipeline Expansion

    The U.S. approval and launch of Cobenfy for schizophrenia in late 2024 is off to a strong start, with approximately 1,000 TRxs per week and high Medicaid (90%+) and Medicare (80%+) access. Management sees significant long-term potential for Cobenfy, initiating 7 Phase III studies in 2025 across Alzheimer's disease agitation, Alzheimer's disease cognition, and bipolar I disorder, with plans for autism spectrum disorder irritability studies in 2026. The failure of emraclidine has cleared the competitive landscape, reinforcing confidence in Cobenfy's unique efficacy profile for positive, negative, and cognitive symptoms.

    02

    R&D Productivity and Pipeline Acceleration

    Bristol-Myers Squibb has significantly improved R&D productivity, accelerating several late-stage programs. Notable examples include Camzyos (ODYSSEY non-obstructive HCM study top-line results expected next quarter, 6 months ahead of schedule), Cobenfy (ADEPT-2 Alzheimer's disease psychosis readout expected H2 2025 vs. original 2026), and iberdomide (EXCALIBER trial in relapsed/refractory multiple myeloma enrollment complete with data readout opportunity in 2025, ahead of schedule due to MRD co-primary endpoint). The company expects 15 or more registrational trials to read out by the end of 2026, derisking the pipeline and providing insight into future growth.

    03

    Strategic Productivity Initiative and Cost Structure

    Building on $1.1 billion in savings realized from a prior $1.5 billion initiative in 2024, the company has identified an additional $2 billion in run-rate operating expense savings. Approximately $1 billion of these incremental savings are expected in 2025, with the remainder by the end of 2027. These savings, driven by organizational design and operational efficiencies, will drop to the bottom line, aiming to make BMS a leaner, more efficient company while continuing to invest in growth drivers and promising science.

    04

    Eliquis Performance and Medicare Part D Impact

    Eliquis delivered over $3 billion in Q4 sales, with U.S. sales up 19% driven by strong demand and inventory build. For FY25, Eliquis is expected to see strong double-digit growth. However, Q1 FY25 U.S. sales will be tempered sequentially due to the implementation of the 10% manufacturer responsibility in the initial coverage phase of Medicare Part D redesign. Sales are expected to steadily increase in subsequent quarters, particularly in H2, due to the elimination of the coverage gap. The company anticipates the overall impact of Part D redesign to be net neutral across its portfolio in FY25.

    05

    Camzyos Momentum and Label Update

    Camzyos sales more than doubled in Q4 FY24, benefiting from higher demand and inventory build, with approximately 9,500 patients on commercial drug. The company expects continued growth from prescriber expansion and high persistency. A PDUFA date in April for easing REMS echo monitoring requirements in the U.S. is anticipated, similar to a recent European label update reducing monitoring frequency to every 6 months in the maintenance setting. This is expected to open up additional capacity at centers of excellence, allowing physicians to treat more patients.

    06

    Multiple Myeloma Pipeline and Market Dynamics

    Bristol-Myers Squibb is excited about its novel oral drugs like iberdomide and mezigdomide in multiple myeloma, positioning them for community settings where cell therapies and bispecifics are difficult to administer. Iberdomide's EXCALIBER trial now includes MRD as a co-primary endpoint, with discussions ongoing with the FDA regarding its use for registration. The company remains committed to Abecma despite competitive intensity and is also excited about Arlo-cel (GPRC5D CAR T), which is expected to play a critical role post-BCMA CAR T with a single infusion and improved safety profile.

    AI-generated summary of the company’s earnings call. Not investment advice.