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    Earnings call· Mar 2025(Q1 FY25)

    CATERPILLAR INC CAT

    Apr 30, 2025 Source

    Executive summary

    Caterpillar Q1 FY25 — Record Backlog and Strong Power Gen Demand

    Caterpillar reported a mixed Q1 FY25, with sales down but adjusted operating profit margin exceeding expectations. The company achieved record organic backlog growth, driven by strong demand in Energy & Transportation, particularly from data centers. Management outlined scenarios for the full year, acknowledging tariff headwinds while expressing confidence in the resilience of its diverse end markets and strong backlog to maintain target ranges for profitability and cash flow.

    Highlights

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    • Record organic backlog growth of $5 billion, reaching an all-time high of $35 billion, driven by all segments.

    • Adjusted operating profit margin of 18.3% exceeded expectations due to favorable manufacturing costs.

    • Machine sales to users declined only 1% overall, better than expected, with Construction Industries up 3% and Energy & Transportation up 13%.

    • Power Generation sales to users grew significantly by 58%, primarily from data center demand.

    • Deployed $4.3 billion to shareholders through $3.7 billion in share repurchases and $700 million in dividends.

    Concerns

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    • Sales and revenues decreased 10% year-over-year to $14.2 billion, primarily due to lower sales volume and unfavorable price realization.

    • Adjusted operating profit decreased 26% to $2.6 billion, and adjusted operating profit margin declined 390 basis points.

    • Anticipated Q2 FY25 tariff cost headwind of $250 million to $350 million.

    • Financial Products segment profit decreased 27% due to the absence of a prior-year insurance settlement and higher credit loss provisions.

    • Softness in oil and gas well servicing applications, leading to declining sales to users in that sub-segment.

    Guidance & targets

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    CategoryTargetConfidence
    Full-year 2025 Sales and Revenues (pre-tariff scenario)
    About flat versus 2024
    high materiality
    High
    Full-year 2025 Sales and Revenues (alternative scenario)
    Only down slightly versus 2024
    high materiality
    Medium
    Full-year 2025 Adjusted Operating Profit Margins (pre-tariff scenario)
    In the top half of the target margin range
    high materiality
    High
    Full-year 2025 Adjusted Operating Profit Margins (alternative scenario)
    Within the target margin range
    high materiality
    Medium
    Full-year 2025 ME&T Free Cash Flow (pre-tariff scenario)
    In the top half of the $5 billion to $10 billion target range
    high materiality
    High
    Full-year 2025 ME&T Free Cash Flow (alternative scenario)
    Within the target range
    high materiality
    Medium
    Q2 FY25 Sales
    Similar to prior year
    high materiality
    High
    Q2 FY25 Adjusted Operating Profit Margins
    Lower versus prior year
    high materiality
    High
    Q2 FY25 Tariff Cost Headwind
    $250 million to $350 million
    high materiality
    High
    Full-year 2025 Restructuring Costs
    Approximately $150 million to $200 million
    medium materiality
    High
    Full-year 2025 Annual Effective Global Tax Rate
    23%
    medium materiality
    High
    Full-year 2025 Capital Expenditures
    Around $2.5 billion
    medium materiality
    High

    Segment performance

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    SegmentRevenueYoYQoQMargin
    Construction Industries
    Sales decreased due to lower sales volume and unfavorable price realization. Profit decline was mainly due to lower sales volume and unfavorable price. Margin was stronger than expected due to lower manufacturing costs and SG&A/R&D expenses.
    Profit decrease: 42% YoYSegment margin: 19.8%Segment margin decrease: 770 bps YoYNorth America sales decrease: 24%Latin America sales decrease: 15%EAME sales decrease: 13%Asia Pacific sales decrease: 12%
    $5.2 billion-19%$1.0 billion profit
    Resource Industries
    Sales decreased due to lower sales volume, unfavorable price realization, and currency impacts. Profit decline was mainly due to lower sales volume. Margin was stronger than anticipated due to better volume, price realization, and manufacturing costs.
    Profit decrease: 18% YoYSegment margin: 20.8%Segment margin decrease: 210 bps YoY
    $2.9 billion-10%$599 million profit
    Energy & Transportation
    Sales decreased due to lower sales volume and unfavorable currency impacts, partially offset by favorable price realization. Profit increased due to favorable price realization, mostly offset by lower sales volume and unfavorable manufacturing costs. Margin was stronger than expected due to favorable cost absorption and price realization.
    Profit increase: 1% YoYSegment margin: 20%Segment margin increase: 50 bps YoYPower Generation sales increase: 23%Industrial sales decrease: 2%Transportation sales decrease: 10%Oil and Gas sales decrease: 20%
    $6.6 billion-2%$1.3 billion profit
    Financial Products
    Revenues increased due to higher average earning assets in North America. Profit decreased due to the absence of a prior-year insurance settlement and higher provisions for credit losses. Customer financial health remains strong, with past dues at historic lows for Q1.
    Profit decrease: 27% YoYPast dues: 1.58%Past dues decrease: 20 bps YoYAllowance rate: 0.95%Retail credit applications increase: 13%Retail new business volume growth: 8%
    Over $1 billion+2%$215 million profit

    Operational metrics

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    Adjusted Operating Profit Margin
    18.3%-390 bps YoY
    Q1 FY25

    Above expectations, primarily due to favorable manufacturing costs.

    Adjusted Profit Per Share
    $4.25vs $5.60 last year
    Q1 FY25

    Impacted by lower profit and unfavorable price realization.

    Impact of Share Repurchases on Adjusted EPS
    $0.17favorable impact
    Q1 FY25

    Resulted from the reduction in the average number of shares outstanding.

    Other Income and Expense
    $49 millionunfavorable YoY
    Q1 FY25

    Primarily driven by unfavorable foreign currency impacts.

    Capital Returned to Shareholders
    $4.3 billion
    Q1 FY25

    Includes a $3 billion accelerated share repurchase (ASR) that may last up to 9 months.

    Enterprise Cash Balance
    $3.6 billion
    Q1 FY25

    Strong balance sheet with ample liquidity.

    Dividend
    $700 million
    Q1 FY25

    Part of capital deployment to shareholders.

    Share Repurchase Authorization
    $3 billion
    Q1 FY25

    Part of the $3.7 billion share repurchases in Q1.

    Tariff Cost Headwind
    $250 million to $350 million
    Q2 FY25

    Estimated cost headwind from tariffs announced and implemented this year. Represents a significant impact on Q2 margins.

    Machine Sales to Users
    -1%YoY
    Q1 FY25

    Includes Construction Industries and Resource Industries.

    Sales to Users Growth
    +3%YoY
    Q1 FY25

    Better than expected, with growth in residential construction and strong performance in Latin America and parts of EAME.

    Sales to Users Growth
    -10%YoY
    Q1 FY25

    Better than expected, primarily due to timing of off-highway truck deliveries.

    Sales to Users Growth
    +13%YoY
    Q1 FY25

    Driven primarily by power generation, with significant growth from data center applications.

    Power Generation Sales to Users Growth
    +58%YoY
    Q1 FY25

    Significant growth driven by data center demand.

    Total Dealer Inventory Change
    $100 million increasevs $1.4 billion increase in Q1 FY24
    Q1 FY25

    Lower than anticipated, primarily due to stronger-than-expected machine sales to users.

    Machine Dealer Inventory
    Flatvs expectation for growth
    Q1 FY25

    Grew less than anticipated due to better-than-expected machine sales to users in Construction Industries and Resource Industries.

    Past Dues
    1.58%down 20 bps YoY
    Q1 FY25

    Reflects strong customer financial health.

    Allowance Rate
    0.95%
    Q1 FY25

    Reflects strong customer financial health.

    Retail Credit Applications Growth
    +13%YoY
    Q1 FY25

    Reflects the attractiveness of sales merchandising programs.

    Used Equipment Inventory Levels
    Remain low
    Q1 FY25

    Conversion rates remain above historical averages as customers buy equipment at lease end.

    Industry KPIs

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    MetricValueDetails
    Capacity expansion
    Tariff cost impact$250 million to $350 millionUSD
    Data center prime power demand58%%
    Order backlog order intake by segment$35 billionUSD

    Orderbook & backlog

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    Total Backlog$35 billionQ1 FY25 end

    Increased $5 billion vs year-end 2024 (+17%)

    Record organic backlog growth in a quarter; increased for all segments, led by Energy & Transportation.

    Capital programs

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    Large Engine Output Capabilities Expansionunderway

    Benefit: Increased large engine output capabilities

    Previously announced multiyear capacity investment to deliver orders today and increase output for large engines, particularly for power generation applications like data centers.

    Risks & headwinds

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    Tariff Cost HeadwindQ2 FY25, potentially full year 2025

    $250 million to $350 million for Q2 FY25

    Mitigation: Initial short-term mitigation efforts and cost controls implemented; evaluating broader, longer-term actions (e.g., sourcing changes) pending clarity on tariff environment.

    Negative Economic GrowthSecond half of 2025

    Assumed in alternative full-year scenario

    Mitigation: Diversity of end markets and strength of record backlog provide resilience, particularly for large engines and Solar Turbines with line of sight to production.

    Softness in Oil and Gas Well ServicingOngoing

    Sales to users declined in oil and gas applications

    Mitigation: Leveraging large engine platforms across applications; able to serve additional power generation and gas compression demand with capacity freed from well servicing.

    Unfavorable Price RealizationH1 FY25, moderating in H2 FY25

    Greater impact in Q1 and Q2 FY25

    Mitigation: Merchandising programs yielding positive results; pricing decisions will balance tariff impacts, market conditions, and competitive position.

    What to watch in Q2 FY25

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    Tariff Clarity and Mitigation Actions

    Next quarter / H2 FY25
    CurrentQ2 FY25 headwind of $250M-$350M
    TargetIncreased clarity on tariff rates and timing/effectiveness of additional mitigation actions

    Why it matters

    The magnitude and duration of tariff impact🌐s are a key uncertainty for full-year profitability and require strategic adjustments.

    As I mentioned, the situation remains fluid, and we will continue to monitor it closely.

    Q&A highlights

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    What mitigation strategies are being evaluated for the $250M-$350M Q2 tariff headwind, and could pricing or cost reductions fully offset it? How does Caterpillar's competitive position compare to other OEMs regarding tariffs?

    Management has implemented short-term 'no-regrets' actions like cost reductions and slowing inbound shipments, leveraging existing dealer inventory. Longer-term actions (e.g., sourcing changes) require more clarity due to investment and validation needs. Pricing decisions will balance tariff offsets, market conditions, and competitive position, with a focus on dollar OPACC growth. Jim Umpleby added that the situation is dynamic, and there's optimism for trade deals to moderate tariff impacts.

    My preference is to protect our investments in our funding for items that we think are going to really help our future growth. And then your question on price, there's a lot of things that go into pricing. And so we need to balance that in context with the amount of tariffs that we can't offset with these other mitigating efforts, along with market conditions, our competitive position.

    asked by Michael Feniger · answered by Joseph Creed

    3 min read7 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

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    Q1 Performance Highlights and Executive Transition

    Caterpillar reported solid Q1 FY25 results, with sales and revenues of $14.2 billion, down 10% year-over-year, primarily due to lower sales volume and unfavorable price realization. Despite this, adjusted operating profit margin reached 18.3%, exceeding expectations due to favorable manufacturing costs. Adjusted profit per share was $4.25. The quarter also marked a significant executive transition, with Joe Creed succeeding Jim Umpleby as CEO on May 1st, following a multiyear succession plan. Jim Umpleby will transition to Executive Chairman.

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    Record Backlog Growth and Dealer Inventory Dynamics

    The company achieved an all-time record organic backlog growth of $5 billion, increasing the total backlog to $35 billion, up 17% versus year-end 2024. This growth was observed across all segments, led by Energy & Transportation. Total dealer inventory increased by only $100 million in Q1 FY25, significantly less than the $1.4 billion increase in Q1 FY24. Machine dealer inventory remained flat, growing less than anticipated due to stronger-than-expected machine sales to users in Construction Industries and Resource Industries.

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    Tariff Impact and Mitigation Strategies

    Tariffs emerged as a significant concern, with a projected Q2 FY25 cost headwind of $250 million to $350 million, net of initial short-term mitigation efforts. Management is evaluating a broad range of longer-term mitigation actions, including deeper cost reductions and supply chain adjustments, but requires more clarity on the long-term tariff environment due to the investment and time required for implementation. The company emphasized its global manufacturing footprint, with the largest base in the U.S., and its history of navigating dynamic environments.

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    Segment Performance Overview

    Construction Industries sales decreased 19% to $5.2 billion, with profit down 42%, mainly due to lower volume and unfavorable price. Resource Industries sales decreased 10% to $2.9 billion, with profit down 18%, driven by lower sales volume. Energy & Transportation sales decreased 2% to $6.6 billion, but profit increased 1%, benefiting from favorable price realization. Power Generation sales to users grew 58%, primarily from data center demand, while oil and gas sales to users declined due to softness in well servicing.

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    Financial Products and Capital Deployment

    Financial Products revenues increased 2% to over $1 billion, but segment profit decreased 27% due to the absence of a prior-year insurance settlement and higher credit loss provisions. Despite this, customer financial health remains strong, with past dues at 1.58% (lowest Q1 since 2006) and retail new business volume up 8%. Caterpillar deployed $4.3 billion to shareholders in Q1, including $3.7 billion in share repurchases (with a $3 billion ASR) and $700 million in dividends, reaffirming its commitment to returning substantially all ME&T free cash flow over time.

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    Full-Year Outlook Scenarios

    For the full year 2025, in a pre-tariff scenario, sales and revenues are expected to be about flat versus 2024, an improvement from prior guidance. Adjusted operating profit margins and ME&T free cash flow are projected to be in the top half of their target ranges. In an alternative scenario assuming negative economic growth in H2 2025 and sustained tariffs, sales and revenues are expected to be only down slightly, with margins and FCF remaining within target ranges, highlighting the company's resilience.

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    Strategic Priorities Under New Leadership

    Incoming CEO Joe Creed outlined strategic priorities, emphasizing continued focus on services to dampen cyclicality, leveraging the Operating & Execution (O&E) model for disciplined resource allocation, and driving OPACC (Operating Profit After Capital Charge) growth for shareholder return. He highlighted growth opportunities in power generation (data centers), natural gas, mining (long-term mineral needs), and specific CI areas like rental and technology adoption, expressing confidence in the team and dealer network.

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