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    CBRE
    Earnings call· Dec 2024(Q4 FY24)

    CBRE GROUP, INC. CBRE

    Feb 13, 2025 Source

    Executive summary

    CBRE Q4 FY24 — Record Core Earnings and Strong Free Cash Flow Driven by Resilient Businesses and Rebounding Transaction Activity

    CBRE delivered a record Q4 FY24, exceeding expectations with strong core earnings and free cash flow, primarily fueled by robust performance in its resilient businesses and a significant rebound in transactional segments like leasing and property sales. The company strategically reorganized into four segments, including two entirely resilient ones, and made key leadership appointments, positioning itself for sustained double-digit earnings growth despite ongoing market uncertainties around interest rates and currency fluctuations.

    Highlights

    5

    • Record Q4 core earnings and free cash flow, with free cash flow conversion reaching almost 100% for the year, surpassing the 75%-85% target range.

    • Resilient businesses (Facilities Management, Project Management, Property Management, Loan Servicing, valuation, recurring investment management fees) grew net revenue 16% in Q4 and 14% for the year, contributing nearly 60% of total SOP.

    • Global leasing revenue grew 15% in Q4, with U.S. office leasing up 28% and gateway markets growing approximately 30% in aggregate.

    • Global property sales revenue accelerated to 35% growth in Q4, with mortgage origination up 37% driven by a 76% increase in origination fees.

    • Development business SOP increased to $150 million in Q4, with over $900 million of embedded net profits in the current in-process and pipeline portfolio.

    Concerns

    3

    • Investment Management Q4 operating profit declined due to ramp-up costs in anticipation of increased capital raising.

    • Anticipated 1% to 2% currency translation headwind on consolidated core EPS for FY25.

    • Transaction activity, while rebounding, is still well below peak levels (40% of 2021 levels for sales activity).

    Guidance & targets

    15
    CategoryTargetConfidence
    Core EPS
    $5.80 to $6.10
    high materiality
    High
    Core EPS growth (ex-FX)
    high teens
    high materiality
    High
    Free cash flow
    approximating last year's total of $1.5 billion
    high materiality
    High
    Free cash flow conversion
    75% to 85%
    medium materiality
    High
    Net leverage
    below 1 turn
    high materiality
    High
    Advisory SOP growth
    low to mid-teens
    medium materiality
    High
    Building Operations & Experience revenue growth
    mid-teens
    medium materiality
    High
    Building Operations & Experience SOP growth
    high-teens
    medium materiality
    High
    Project Management SOP growth
    low to mid-teens
    medium materiality
    High
    Real Estate Investments SOP
    improve on 2024's SOP
    medium materiality
    High
    Investment Management operating profit
    flat with 2024
    medium materiality
    Medium
    Data center activity contribution to development profits
    more than half
    medium materiality
    High
    Q1 FY25 Core EBITDA growth
    high-teens rate
    medium materiality
    High
    Q1 FY25 contribution to full year core EPS
    low double-digit percentage
    low materiality
    High
    FY25 tax rate
    22%
    low materiality
    High

    Segment performance

    3
    SegmentRevenueYoYQoQMargin
    Advisory
    Results were driven by record leasing revenue and a continued rebound in capital markets. Improved margin on net revenue.
    Global Leasing Revenue Growth: 15%U.S. Office Leasing Revenue Growth: 28%Gateway Markets (NY, SF, LA, Chicago, DC, Boston) Leasing Revenue Growth: ~30% in aggregateOther Large Markets (Dallas, Atlanta, Seattle) Leasing Revenue Growth: Faster than Gateway MarketsGlobal Property Sales Revenue Growth: 35%Mortgage Origination Business Growth: 37%Origination Fees Growth: 76%Refinancings as % of Total Loan Origination Volume: ~60%
    		———SOP rose 34%
    Global Workplace Solutions (GWS)
    Broad-based strength in Facilities Management, particularly in enterprise (technology, industrial, data centers, health care) and local businesses (U.K., Americas). Project Management strength in North America and U.K., led by real estate and infrastructure. Margin improvement reflects cost efforts and focus on contract profitability.
    Facilities Management Net Revenue Increase: 24%Project Management Net Revenue Increase: SolidProject Management Net Revenue Growth (FY24): 10%Turner & Townsend Revenue Growth (FY24): 19%
    		—Net revenue grew 18%—SOP margin improved for the full year
    Real Estate Investments (REI)
    SOP led by Development business due to significant monetizations, including data center sites. Investment Management Q4 operating profit declined due to ramp-up costs. Market sentiment improving for Investment Management.
    AUM (end of 2024): $146 billionCapital Raised (FY24): Over $10 billionCapital Raised (Q4 FY24): Half of FY24 totalEmbedded Net Profits in Development-in-process Portfolio & Pipeline: More than $900 millionIn-process and Pipeline Portfolio: More than $32 billionOutstanding Balance Sheet Equity Co-investments: Approximately $800 million
    		———SOP increased to $150 million

    Operational metrics

    18
    Core Earnings
    best quarter ever
    Q4 FY24

    Q4 2024 was CBRE's best quarter ever for core earnings.

    Resilient Businesses SOP Contribution
    nearly 60%essentially matching 2023
    FY24

    Resilient businesses contributed nearly 60% of our total SOP for the year, essentially matching 2023.

    Free Cash Flow Conversion
    almost 100%surpassing our 75% to 85% target range
    FY24

    free cash flow conversion reached almost 100%, surpassing our 75% to 85% target range.

    Capital Deployed
    approximately $2 billion
    FY24

    We deployed approximately $2 billion of capital in 2024 across M&A, real estate co-investment and share repurchases.

    Share Repurchases
    more than $800 million
    since end of Q3 FY24

    We repurchased more than $800 million worth of shares since the end of the third quarter. $500 million in Q4, remainder in Jan/Feb.

    Development Projects Capitalized
    29
    FY24

    we capitalized 29 development projects for the year, including 12 in Q4.

    Development Projects to Break Ground
    more than 50almost double the number in 2024
    FY25

    positioned our Development business to break ground on more than 50 projects in 2025, almost double the number in 2024.

    Data Center Profit Growth
    over 2.5x
    last 3 years

    Over that time, our total data center profit has increased over 2.5x.

    Data Center Contribution to Core EBITDA
    almost 10%up from 3% 3 years ago
    FY24

    growing its contribution to core EBITDA from 3% 3 years ago to almost 10% in 2024.

    Turner & Townsend Data Center Projects Underway
    more than 150
    current

    Turner & Townsend has more than 150 data center projects underway

    Turner & Townsend Data Center Projects Completed
    over 500
    last decade

    and has completed over 500 of these projects in the last decade.

    Turner & Townsend Data Center Revenue Growth
    50%each of the last 3 years
    annually

    Data center revenue for Turner & Townsend has increased 50% annually in each of the last 3 years.

    Data Centers Managed by Facilities Management
    over 700
    current

    Our Facilities Management group manages over 700 data centers.

    Advisory Data Center Transactions Arranged
    $9 billion
    last year

    In our Advisory business, we arranged $9 billion of sales, lease and financing transactions for North America data centers last year.

    Total Data Center Inventory Growth
    nearly doubled
    last 4 years

    While total data center inventory in the market has nearly doubled in the past 4 years, our data center profit growth has outpaced this market expansion and is poised for continued strong growth.

    Capital Markets Sales Activity vs. Peak
    40%of 2021
    current

    We're still far below peak levels. We're 40% of 2021, and we're not back at 2019 levels.

    U.S. Sales Activity Growth
    20%
    first 6 weeks of FY25

    in the first 6 weeks of the year, we're seeing 20% growth in U.S. sales activity.

    FY24 Tax Rate
    18%
    FY24

    for the full year, that drove our tax rate below what we typically see to 18%.

    Industry KPIs

    9
    MetricValueDetails
    Leasing revenue growth15%%
    Free cash flow conversionalmost 100%%
    Property sales revenue growth35%%
    Development in process pipeline$32 billionUSD
    Segment operating profit growth34%%
    Mortgage origination loan servicing37%%
    Facilities management revenue growth24%%
    Investment management AUM capital raised$146 billionUSD
    Resilient vs transactional revenue split16%%

    Orderbook & backlog

    2
    Development In-Process and Pipeline Portfolio$32 billionend of FY24

    More than $900 million of embedded net profits.

    Outstanding Balance Sheet Equity Co-investments$800 millionend of FY24

    Supports the in-process and pipeline portfolio.

    Deals & partnerships

    3
    IndustriousAcquisition of premium flex workplace provider

    Acquired Industrious, with its CEO Jamie Hodari now leading the new Building Operations & Experience segment.

    Turner & TownsendCombination of CBRE Project Management with Turner & Townsend

    Completed the combination of CBRE Project Management with Turner & Townsend, leading to accelerated growth in the Project Management segment.

    Direct Line GlobalAcquisition to fortify technical services capabilities in Facilities Management

    Acquired Direct Line Global last year to strengthen Facilities Management's technical services, particularly for hyperscale data center clients.

    Risks & headwinds

    4
    Currency translation headwindsFY25

    1% to 2% headwind on consolidated core EPS

    Mitigation: None stated, but growth ex-FX would be higher.

    Uncertainty around interest rate trajectoryFY25

    Wide guidance range for core EPS ($5.80 to $6.10)

    Mitigation: Guidance accounts for a broad range of scenarios; upside if rates come down more than expected.

    Muted transaction activity compared to prior cyclical recoveriesFY25 and beyond

    Capital markets activity still 40% of 2021 peak levels

    Mitigation: Focus on resilient businesses, strategic investments in high-growth areas (data centers), and expectation of steady, albeit slower, recovery.

    Industrial sublease/underutilized spaceFY25

    Some sublease space or underutilized space with big users

    Mitigation: Expect low single-digit growth in industrial leasing, with vacancies and new deliveries down by year-end, positioning for stronger growth beyond 2025.

    What to watch in Q1 FY25

    5

    Core EPS growth (ex-FX)

    FY25
    Current16% at midpoint (including FX headwind)
    TargetHigh-teens growth

    Why it matters

    Indicates underlying business strength and growth trajectory without currency impact🌐, crucial for valuation.

    Absent this headwind, expected core EPS growth would be in the high teens.

    Q&A highlights

    5

    Inquired about the 'muted' capital markets recovery guidance given current activity, asking if recent rate volatility paused things or if guidance is prudent.

    Emma Giamartino explained that the guidance considers leasing and capital markets combined, and that capital markets are a smaller portion of the business than perceived. Q4 saw a pickup, but still 40% below 2021 peaks. Early 2025 shows 20% growth in U.S. sales, but caution remains due to rate uncertainty. Refinancings are driving loan origination. Upside exists if rates drop more than expected.

    “We're very early in the year, but in the first 6 weeks of the year, we're seeing 20% growth in U.S. sales activity. But we are being cautious because we don't know the trajectory the rates will be through the remainder of the year.”

    asked by Anthony Paolone · answered by Emma Giamartino

    2 min read6 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

    01

    Strategic Reorganization and Leadership

    CBRE reorganized into four new business segments: Building Operations & Experience, Project Management, Advisory, and Real Estate Investments. This move aims to leverage expertise and scale, particularly in the two entirely resilient segments (Building Operations & Experience and Project Management). Key leadership appointments, including a new CEO for Building Operations & Experience and co-CEOs for Investment Management, are intended to drive future growth and capitalize on strategic opportunities.

    02

    Resilient Business Performance

    The company's resilient businesses, comprising facilities management, project management, property management, loan servicing, valuation, and recurring investment management fees, demonstrated strong performance. They grew net revenue by 16% in Q4 and 14% for the full year, contributing nearly 60% of the total SOP for 2024, highlighting their stability and operating leverage even as transactional revenues rebounded.

    03

    Transactional Business Rebound

    The Advisory segment saw a significant rebound, with global leasing revenue up 15% and global property sales revenue accelerating to 35% growth in Q4. U.S. office leasing notably grew 28%, with broad-based strength across gateway and other large markets, indicating a stabilization in occupier demand and a return to office momentum. Mortgage origination also saw strong growth, driven by refinancing activity.

    04

    Development Business Strength

    The Real Estate Investments segment, particularly the Development business, delivered a strong Q4 with $150 million in SOP, driven by significant monetizations, including data center sites. The company has strategically invested in areas with secular tailwinds, building a pipeline of over $32 billion with $900 million of embedded net profits, positioning it for substantial project starts in 2025.

    05

    Data Center Sector Focus

    CBRE has strategically focused financial and operational resources on the data center sector, growing its contribution to core EBITDA from 3% three years ago to almost 10% in 2024. This includes Project Management (Turner & Townsend with 150+ projects underway), Facilities Management (managing over 700 data centers), and Advisory (arranging $9 billion in transactions), demonstrating a comprehensive approach to a high-growth market.

    06

    Capital Allocation and Shareholder Returns

    The company generated over $1.5 billion in free cash flow for 2024, achieving nearly 100% conversion. It deployed approximately $2 billion in capital across M&A, real estate co-investment, and share repurchases, including over $800 million in buybacks since Q3. Management believes the shares are undervalued and remains committed to returning capital while pursuing strategic M&A.

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