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    Earnings call· Jun 2025(Q2 FY25)

    CINCINNATI FINANCIAL Q2 FY25 earnings call CINF

    Jul 29, 2025 Source

    Executive summary

    Cincinnati Financial Q2 FY25 — Strong Underwriting Profitability and Investment Income Growth

    Cincinnati Financial delivered strong Q2 FY25 results, driven by robust underwriting profitability in commercial and reinsurance segments and significant investment income growth. While personal lines faced catastrophe headwinds, the company maintained its agent-centered strategy, focusing on profitable growth and risk segmentation. Management expressed confidence in its long-term strategy and capital position, despite some softening in large property rates.

    Highlights

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    • Non-GAAP operating income increased 52% to $311 million in Q2 FY25.

    • Property casualty combined ratio improved by 3.6 percentage points to 94.9% in Q2 FY25.

    • Consolidated property casualty net written premiums grew 11% for the quarter.

    • Investment income grew 18% in Q2 FY25, reflecting portfolio rebalancing.

    • Commercial Lines and Excess & Surplus Lines segments produced combined ratios below 93% and 91.1% respectively.

    • Cincinnati Re and Cincinnati Global each had outstanding quarters with combined ratios below 85% (82.8% and 78.4% respectively).

    Concerns

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    • Personal lines combined ratio was 102%, 2 percentage points shy of an underwriting profit, due to spring and summer storms adding 23.8 percentage points.

    • Personal lines net written premiums decreased by $22 million, partly from a $13 million reduction in California.

    • Commercial lines average renewal price increases were lower than Q1 FY25, moving to the high end of the mid-single-digit percentage range.

    • Cash flow from operating activities for H1 FY25 was down $44 million year-over-year due to paying $442 million more for catastrophe losses.

    Guidance & targets

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    CategoryTargetConfidence
    Property casualty underwriting expense ratio
    Below 29%
    medium materiality
    High

    Segment performance

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    SegmentRevenueYoYQoQMargin
    Commercial lines
    Net written premiums grew 9%. Combined ratio improved by 6.2 percentage points, including 2.3 points from lower catastrophe losses.
    13.5 consecutive years of underwriting profit
    		—9%—92.9% combined ratio
    Personal lines
    Net written premiums grew 20%, including growth in middle market accounts and Cincinnati Private Client. Combined ratio was 4.9 percentage points better than last year despite a 2.9 points increase from higher catastrophe losses. New business decreased by $22 million, partly due to a $13 million reduction in California.
    		—20%—102% combined ratio
    Excess and Surplus lines
    Net written premiums grew 12%. Combined ratio improved by 4.3 percentage points.
    		—12%—91.1% combined ratio
    Cincinnati Re
    Net written premiums decreased by 21%, reflecting pricing discipline where market conditions softened, with pullback balanced between property and casualty.
    Inception to date combined ratio: 95.2% on $3.5 billion of premium
    		—-21%—82.8% combined ratio
    Cincinnati Global
    Premium growth of 45% as it continues to benefit from product expansion in recent years.
    		—45%—78.4% combined ratio
    Life insurance subsidiary
    Had another strong quarter.
    Term life insurance earned premiums grew 3%
    		———8% net income growth

    Operational metrics

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    Net income
    $685 millionmore than doubled year ago
    Q2 FY25

    Included recognition of $380 million on an after-tax basis for the increase in fair value of equity securities still held.

    Non-GAAP operating income
    $311 millionup 52%
    Q2 FY25
    Property casualty combined ratio
    94.9%improved by 3.6 percentage points compared with Q2 last year
    Q2 FY25
    Accident year combined ratio before catastrophe losses
    85.1%improved by 3.1 percentage points compared with accident year 2024
    Q2 FY25
    Consolidated property casualty net written premiums growth
    11%
    Q2 FY25
    Commercial lines average renewal price increases
    high end of the mid-single-digit percentage rangelower than Q1 2025
    Q2 FY25
    Excess and surplus lines average renewal price increases
    high single-digit range
    Q2 FY25
    Homeowner average renewal price increases
    low double-digit range
    Q2 FY25
    Personal auto average renewal price increases
    high single-digit range
    Q2 FY25
    Value creation ratio
    5.2%
    Q2 FY25

    Primary measure of long-term financial performance.

    Investment income growth
    18%
    Q2 FY25

    Reflecting efforts during 2024 to rebalance investment portfolio.

    Fixed maturity portfolio pretax average yield
    4.93%up 29 basis points compared with last year
    Q2 FY25
    Purchased taxable and tax-exempt bonds average pretax yield
    5.82%
    Q2 FY25
    Dividend income growth
    1%
    Q2 FY25
    Equity portfolio net gain (pretax)
    $480 million
    Q2 FY25

    Before tax effects.

    Bond portfolio net gain (pretax)
    $16 million
    Q2 FY25

    Before tax effects.

    Total investment portfolio net appreciated value
    $7.2 billion
    Q2 FY25

    At the end of the second quarter.

    Equity portfolio net gain position
    $7.6 billion
    Q2 FY25
    Fixed maturity portfolio net loss position
    $458 million
    Q2 FY25
    Property casualty underwriting expense ratio
    28.6%decreased by 1.8 percentage points
    Q2 FY25

    Primarily due to growth in earned premiums outpacing the growth in expenses.

    Net addition to property casualty loss and loss expense reserves
    $829 million
    H1 FY25
    Property casualty net favorable reserve development on prior accident years
    $63 million
    Q2 FY25

    Benefited the combined ratio by 2.6 percentage points.

    All lines net favorable reserve development
    $154 million
    H1 FY25
    Dividends paid to shareholders
    $133 million
    Q2 FY25

    No shares were repurchased during the quarter.

    Parent company cash and marketable securities
    $5.1 billion
    Q2 FY25

    At the end of the quarter.

    Debt to total capital
    under 10%
    Q2 FY25
    Book value per share
    $91.46
    Q2 FY25

    Record high.

    GAAP consolidated shareholders' equity
    $14.3 billion
    Q2 FY25

    Providing ample capacity for profitable growth of insurance operations.

    Industry KPIs

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    MetricValueDetails
    Combined ratio94.9%%
    Capital returns$133 million in dividendsUSD
    Catastrophe losses23.8 percentage pointspercentage points
    Book value per share$91.46USD
    Net investment income18% growth%
    Life specific when present8% net income growth%
    Net premiums written earned11%%
    Renewal rate change pricingCommercial lines: high end of mid-single-digit percentage range; E&S: high single-digit range; Homeowner: low double-digit range; Personal auto: high single-digit range%
    Prior year reserve development$63 million favorableUSD

    Product announcements

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    ProductTypeDetails
    New products at Lloyd's via C-SUPRexpansion

    Risks & headwinds

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    Catastrophe losses from spring and summer stormsQ2 FY25

    Added 23.8 percentage points to personal lines combined ratio.

    Mitigation: Reinstated property cat treaty layers after using about half of the $1.5 billion limit; purchased additional $300 million layer of reinsurance.

    Softening property market for large propertiesCurrent

    Seeing some pressure, most prevalently in Lloyd's syndicate and CGU.

    Mitigation: Pricing discipline, focus on small to middle market commercial package business where rates are still healthy.

    Social inflation / legal system abuse (attorney involvement in auto accidents)Current

    Putting some pressure on commercial auto and general liability/umbrella.

    Mitigation: Prudent reserving approach, quick action by actuarial team, risk-by-risk underwriting and pricing.

    Reduced new business in Personal Lines, particularly CaliforniaQ2 FY25

    Personal lines new business decreased by $22 million, with $13 million reduction in California.

    Mitigation: Implementing model recalibration, aggregation review, and risk assessment in California following wildfires.

    What to watch in Q3 FY25

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    Personal lines underwriting profitability

    H2 FY25
    Current102% combined ratio (Q2 FY25)
    TargetUnderwriting profit (below 100% combined ratio)

    Why it matters

    Management expects H2 to be more profitable for personal lines, with an average 8-point improvement over the last five years, crucial for overall profitability.

    The second half of the year is typically more profitable for our personal lines business. Over the past five years, we've seen an average improvement of 8 points in the second half of the year for that segment.

    Q&A highlights

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    Clarification on commercial lines pricing commentary (high single digit vs. mid-single digit) and its implications for future margin expansion given loss trends.

    Steve Spray clarified that commercial lines pricing moved to the high end of mid-single digits, a slight decrease from Q1, but net rate changes remain strong. He believes rate is at least matching or outpacing loss costs (except workers' comp). He emphasized the company's pricing sophistication and segmentation, which allows for retaining adequately priced business and aggressive action on underpriced business, leading to 13.5 consecutive years of underwriting profit in commercial lines.

    “What I focus more on, though, again, is the segmentation. Are we retaining that business that's most adequately priced? And then are we being aggressive working with our agents on the business that we feel needs the most rate action.”

    asked by Michael Phillips · answered by Stephen Spray

    2 min read6 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

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    Underwriting Performance & Catastrophe Impact

    The company reported a strong Q2 FY25 property casualty combined ratio of 94.9%, an improvement of 3.6 percentage points year-over-year, despite a 1-point increase in catastrophe losses. Commercial lines and E&S lines segments maintained combined ratios below 93% and 91.1% respectively. Personal lines, however, saw its combined ratio at 102% due to spring and summer storms adding 23.8 percentage points.

    02

    Investment Portfolio Rebalancing & Income Growth

    Investment income grew 18% in Q2 FY25, reflecting successful rebalancing efforts in H2 FY24. The pretax average yield for the fixed maturity portfolio increased by 29 basis points year-over-year to 4.93%. The total investment portfolio net appreciated value was approximately $7.2 billion at quarter-end, with a net gain of $480 million for the equity portfolio and $16 million for the bond portfolio.

    03

    Premium Growth & Pricing Discipline

    Consolidated property casualty net written premiums grew 11% for the quarter, including 16% growth in agency renewal premiums. New business grew in commercial and E&S lines, but personal lines decreased by $22 million, partly due to a $13 million reduction in California. Average renewal price increases were healthy, with commercial lines near the high end of mid-single digits, E&S in high single digits, homeowners in low double digits, and personal auto in high single digits.

    04

    Reinsurance Strategy & Capital Management

    The company purchased an additional $300 million layer on top of its property catastrophe reinsurance program, extending coverage to $1.5 billion, with $129 million (43%) placed for less than $5 million ceded premium. This was done for balance sheet protection given premium growth. Cincinnati Re's net written premiums decreased by 21% due to pricing discipline in softening markets, while Cincinnati Global grew 45% benefiting from product expansion.

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    Reserve Adequacy & Expense Management

    The company maintains a consistent approach to loss reserves, aiming for net amounts in the upper half of the actuarially estimated range. For H1 FY25, net addition to property casualty loss reserves was $829 million. The underwriting expense ratio decreased by 1.8 percentage points to 28.6%, primarily due to earned premium growth outpacing expense growth, with management targeting below 29% going forward⏳.

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    California Market Adjustments

    Following early-year wildfires, the company is implementing actions in California, including model recalibration, aggregation review, and risk assessment, while aiming to support agents and policyholders. Personal lines new business reduction in California reflects these adjustments.

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