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    Earnings call· Jun 2025(Q2 FY25)

    CUMMINS Q2 FY25 earnings call CMI

    Aug 5, 2025 Source

    Executive summary

    Cummins Q2 FY25 – Record Power Systems & Distribution Performance Offsets Weak Truck Market

    Cummins delivered strong Q2 FY25 profitability, with record performance in its Power Systems and Distribution segments, which effectively offset a significant downturn in the North America truck market. The company is navigating persistent uncertainties related to tariffs and regulatory clarity, leading to a withdrawal of full-year guidance, but remains focused on operational efficiencies and strategic investments in high-growth areas like data centers.

    Highlights

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    • EBITDA increased 310 basis points year-over-year to 18.4% of sales, driven by strong operational execution.

    • Power Systems segment achieved record EBITDA of $433 million, rising to 22.8% of sales, an increase of 3.9 percentage points year-over-year.

    • Distribution segment reported record EBITDA of $445 million, improving to 14.6% of sales, up 3.5 percentage points year-over-year.

    • North America Power Generation equipment revenues increased by 25% year-over-year, fueled by data center demand.

    • Quarterly dividend increased by 10% from $1.82 to $2.00 per share, marking the 16th consecutive year of increase.

    Concerns

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    • North America heavy- and medium-duty truck volumes declined 30% and 36% year-over-year, respectively.

    • Company revenues decreased 2% year-over-year to $8.6 billion.

    • Tariff costs negatively impacted profitability by approximately $22 million in Q2 FY25, with full recovery not expected until Q4 FY25.

    • Accelera segment reported an EBITDA loss of $100 million, despite a reduction from $117 million a year ago.

    • Guidance for the full year was withdrawn due to significant uncertainty in North America truck markets and tariff policies.

    Guidance & targets

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    CategoryTargetConfidence
    Full-year 2025 Company Outlook
    Guidance withdrawn
    high materiality
    Low
    Q3 FY25 North America Heavy- and Medium-Duty Truck Volumes
    Decline 25% to 30% from Q2 levels
    high materiality
    High
    Power Systems Capacity Expansion
    Fully online by beginning of next year
    medium materiality
    High
    Tariff Cost Recovery
    Near full recovery by Q4 FY25
    medium materiality
    Medium
    EPA27 Compliant Engine Launch
    Launching new platforms at the end of next year
    high materiality
    High
    Engineering Spend Intensity
    Start coming down after '27 launches
    low materiality
    Medium

    Segment performance

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    SegmentRevenueYoYQoQMargin
    Company Total
    Revenues decreased 2% compared to Q2 FY24. EBITDA was $1.6 billion or 18.4% of sales, up from 15.3% a year ago, driven by Power Generation demand, operational efficiencies, pricing, and lower compensation expenses, offsetting lower North America truck volumes and tariffs.
    $8.6B-2%18.4% EBITDA
    North America
    Revenues decreased 6% compared to Q2 FY24.
    -6%
    International
    Revenues increased 5% compared to Q2 FY24.
    +5%
    China (including JVs)
    Revenues increased 9% due to accelerating data center demand and higher domestic truck demand, offsetting lower export demand.
    Medium- and heavy-duty truck units sold: 43,000 (+31% YoY)Power Generation revenues: +32% YoY
    $1.8B+9%
    India (including JVs)
    Revenues decreased 1% from Q2 FY24, with Power Generation revenues increasing due to G-Drive and data center demand.
    Power Generation revenues: +31% YoY
    $699M-1%
    Engine
    Revenues decreased 8% from Q2 FY24. EBITDA decreased to 13.8% from 14.1% a year ago, as weaker North American truck volumes were partially offset by pricing, operational efficiencies, and higher JV income in China.
    $2.9B-8%13.8% EBITDA
    Components
    Revenues decreased 9% from Q2 FY24. EBITDA increased to 14.7% from 13.6% a year ago, driven by lower product coverage costs, operational efficiencies, and pricing, offsetting lower on-highway demand in North America.
    $2.7B-9%14.7% EBITDA
    Distribution
    Revenues increased 7% from Q2 FY24. EBITDA was a record $445 million, improving to 14.6% of sales from 11.1% a year ago, driven by higher Power Generation, strong parts demand, and overall gross margin improvements.
    $3.0B+7%14.6% EBITDA
    Power Systems
    Revenues increased 19% from Q2 FY24. EBITDA was a record $433 million, rising from 18.9% to 22.8% of sales, driven by strong volume in data center applications, favorable pricing, and productivity improvements.
    $1.9B+19%22.8% EBITDA
    Accelera
    Revenues decreased 5% as increased e-mobility sales partially offset lower electrolyzer installations. EBITDA loss improved from $117 million a year ago due to a lower cost base from Q4 FY24 actions.
    $105M-5%-$100M EBITDA loss

    Operational metrics

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    EBITDA Margin
    18.4%up 310 bps YoY
    Q2 FY25

    Compared to 15.3% in Q2 FY24.

    Gross Margin
    26.4%up 150 bps YoY
    Q2 FY25

    Compared to 24.9% in Q2 FY24. Driven by favorable pricing and operational improvements, especially in Power Systems and Distribution.

    Selling, Administrative and Research Expenses
    13.1%down 60 bps YoY
    Q2 FY25

    Compared to 13.7% in Q2 FY24. Benefited from lower compensation costs.

    Joint Venture Income
    $118Mup $15M YoY
    Q2 FY25

    Primarily driven by higher China volumes within the engine business.

    Other Income
    $49Mup from -$3M YoY
    Q2 FY25

    Driven by positive impacts of foreign currency valuation and gains on investments related to company-owned life insurance.

    Interest Expense
    $87Mdown $22M YoY
    Q2 FY25

    Primarily driven by lower weighted average interest rates, partially offset by higher debt balances.

    All-in Effective Tax Rate
    24.2%
    Q2 FY25

    Includes favorable discrete tax items.

    Net Earnings per Diluted Share
    $6.43up from $5.26 YoY
    Q2 FY25

    Compared to $5.26 per diluted share in Q2 FY24.

    Dividend per Share
    $2.00up 10% from $1.82
    Quarterly

    Announced a 10% increase in quarterly dividend.

    Capital Returned to Shareholders
    $251M
    Q2 FY25

    Consistent with long-term plan to return approximately 50% of operating cash flow.

    North America Heavy-Duty Truck Industry Production
    57,000 unitsdown 27% YoY
    Q2 FY25

    Compared to 2024 levels.

    North America Heavy-Duty Truck Unit Sales (Cummins)
    22,000 unitsdown 29% YoY
    Q2 FY25

    Compared to 2024 levels.

    North America Medium-Duty Truck Industry Production
    28,000 unitsdown 36% YoY
    Q2 FY25

    Compared to 2024 levels.

    North America Medium-Duty Truck Unit Sales (Cummins)
    25,000 unitsdown 35% YoY
    Q2 FY25

    Compared to 2024 levels.

    Ram Pickup Engine Shipments
    34,000 enginesdown 18% YoY
    Q2 FY25

    Shipped to Stellantis for use in Ram pickups.

    China Medium- and Heavy-Duty Truck Industry Demand
    304,000 unitsup 13% YoY
    Q2 FY25

    Increase primarily due to higher domestic demand driven by NS4 scrapping incentives.

    China Excavator Industry Demand
    59,000 unitsup 11% YoY
    Q2 FY25

    Increase primarily due to domestic cyclical replacement demand, rural development, and farmland renovation demand.

    India Truck Industry Production
    up 1%YoY
    Q2 FY25

    Compared to 2024.

    Tariff Impact on Profitability
    -$22M
    Q2 FY25

    Tariffs were negative to profitability for Cummins in Q2 FY25. Company expects to enter Q4 FY25 close to price/cost neutral on tariffs.

    Price Realization (Overall)
    1.2%improvement
    Q2 FY25

    When excluding tariffs, overall price realization improved across businesses, notably in Power Systems and Distribution, and light-duty engines.

    Tax Benefit from Accelerated Depreciation
    $125M to $250M
    Annual

    Potential cash benefit from tax legislation, with final choices to be made in Q3 FY25.

    Industry KPIs

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    MetricValueDetails
    Capacity expansionDoubling capacity
    Tariff cost impact-$22MUSD
    Parts aftermarket business
    Data center prime power demand25%%
    Dealer inventory months of supply
    Incremental margin operating leverage
    Order backlog order intake by segment2 years
    Industry production market size forecasts57,000 unitsunits

    Orderbook & backlog

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    Power Systems Backlog2 yearsQ2 FY25

    Orders are being taken out into the '27 timeframe, considering incremental capacity coming online next year.

    Product announcements

    2
    ProductTypeDetails
    S17 Centum Gensetlaunch
    Helm Engine Platformslaunch

    Deals & partnerships

    1
    Amplify CellJoint venture for commercial vehicle cells in the U.S.

    Continuing to move forward with partners in the Amplify Cell joint venture.

    Capital programs

    2
    Power Systems Capacity Doublingunderway

    Benefit: doubled capacity

    Investment in doubling capacity in the Power Systems business to meet strong demand.

    US Engine Plants Investmentunderway$1B

    Benefit: new platforms for 2027 regulations

    Investment primarily for new platforms to comply with 2027 regulations, positioning for efficient, high power density products.

    Risks & headwinds

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    North America Truck Market DeclineQ2 FY25, Q3 FY25, potentially longer

    Heavy-duty volumes down 30% YoY; medium-duty volumes down 36% YoY in Q2 FY25. Expected Q3 FY25 decline of 25-30% from Q2 levels.

    Mitigation: Maintaining cost discipline, managing inventory, and leveraging diversified global business and strong Power Generation market.

    Tariff Uncertainty and Cost ImpactQ2 FY25, Q3 FY25, ongoing

    Negative $22 million impact on profitability in Q2 FY25. Full impact not yet felt, with ongoing uncertainty.

    Mitigation: Active mitigation efforts, negotiating customer agreements for recovery, evaluating and implementing dual sourcing where possible. Expect to be near price/cost neutral by Q4 FY25.

    Regulatory Uncertainty (EPA27 NOx)Ongoing through 2026

    Uncertainty around 2027 NOx regulations impacting product launch timing and engineering spend flexibility.

    Mitigation: Working closely with EPA for clarity, pushing for levers to reduce total cost impact (e.g., longer emissions warranty). Delayed one product launch (X15) by 6 months.

    Economic Sensitivity in Shorter-Cycle MarketsSecond half of FY25

    Declining confidence in North America truck, pickup, and consumer-related markets.

    Mitigation: Diversified global business, continued strength in Power Generation, and stability in aftermarket and industrial businesses.

    Accelera Growth Trajectory SlowdownOngoing

    Growth trajectory has slowed, with Accelera revenues down 5% and an EBITDA loss of $100 million.

    Mitigation: Restructuring to focus on growth areas, pacing investments, committed to reducing losses over time and growing as the market develops.

    What to watch in Q3 FY25

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    North America Truck Volumes

    Next quarter (Q3 FY25 results)
    CurrentExpected to decline 25-30% from Q2 levels in Q3 FY25
    TargetStabilization or signs of recovery

    Why it matters

    The North America truck market is a significant segment for Cummins, and its recovery is crucial for overall revenue and profitability growth.

    As we look ahead to the third quarter, we expect North America heavy- and medium-duty truck volumes to decline 25% to 30% from second quarter levels as we have seen truck orders recently reached multiyear lows and OEMs have initiated reduced work weeks through the next 3 months.

    Q&A highlights

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    Is the Q2 Power Systems margin level sustainable, or were there one-time factors?

    Management confirmed the strong margin is sustainable, driven by operational improvements and strong demand, with no one-time factors. They are doubling capacity, expected online by early next year, and continue to focus on efficiencies.

    there's nothing unique in there other than demand is strong for both generators and parts. But there's no one-timers in there or anything like that.

    asked by Stephen Volkmann · answered by Mark Smith

    3 min read7 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

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    Strong Profitability Despite North America Truck Headwinds

    Cummins delivered impressive Q2 FY25 results, with EBITDA increasing 310 basis points year-over-year to 18.4% of sales, reaching $1.6 billion. This strong profitability was achieved despite a 2% decline in overall revenues to $8.6 billion and a significant 30% drop in North America heavy-duty truck volumes. The improvement was primarily driven by record performance in the Distribution and Power Systems segments, coupled with operational efficiencies, positive pricing, and lower compensation expenses, which more than offset the impact of lower truck volumes and unfavorable tariffs.

    02

    Power Systems and Distribution Segments Drive Performance

    The Power Systems segment achieved record EBITDA of $433 million, with its margin expanding to 22.8% of sales, up from 18.9% a year ago. This was attributed to strong volume, particularly in data center applications, favorable pricing, and productivity improvements. The Distribution segment also reported record EBITDA of $445 million, with margins improving to 14.6% of sales, benefiting from higher Power Generation demand, strong parts sales, and overall gross margin improvements. The company is doubling capacity in Power Systems, expected to be fully online by early next year, to meet continued strong demand.

    03

    North America Truck Market Decline and Outlook

    The North America truck market experienced a sharp decline, with heavy-duty truck production down 27% and medium-duty down 36% year-over-year. Cummins' unit sales mirrored this trend, falling 29% and 35% respectively. The company anticipates Q3 FY25 North America heavy- and medium-duty truck volumes to decline 25% to 30% from Q2 levels, citing multiyear low orders and OEM production cuts. Management noted that the duration of this downturn depends on the broader economy, trade/tariff policies, and regulatory clarity, making a prediction for 2026 and 2027 difficult.

    04

    International Market Trends and Data Center Demand

    International revenues increased 5% in Q2 FY25. China revenues, including JVs, rose 9% to $1.8 billion, driven by accelerating data center demand and higher domestic truck demand (up 13% for medium/heavy-duty units) due to government stimulus and NS4 scrapping incentives. China excavator demand also increased 11%. India revenues decreased 1%, with Power Generation revenues up 31% due to G-Drive and data center demand. Data center demand was a consistent growth driver across multiple geographies and segments.

    05

    Tariff Impact and Mitigation Efforts

    Tariffs negatively impacted Cummins' profitability by approximately $22 million net in Q2 FY25. The company expects to enter Q4 FY25 close to a price/cost neutral position regarding tariffs, having actively negotiated agreements with customers and implemented dual sourcing where viable. Management highlighted the significant burden tariffs place on the industry and the ongoing uncertainty, which was exacerbated by recent announcements, impacting business confidence and capital goods demand.

    06

    Accelera Segment and Alternative Powertrains

    The Accelera segment's revenues decreased 5% to $105 million, with an EBITDA loss of $100 million, an improvement from $117 million a year ago due to a lower cost base. Management acknowledged a slowed growth trajectory for alternative powertrains but remains committed to reducing losses and growing as the market develops. The company is continuing with its Amplify Cell joint venture in the U.S. for commercial vehicle cells and is evaluating expansion into stationary energy storage and microgrids.

    07

    Capital Allocation and Regulatory Uncertainty

    Cummins increased its quarterly dividend by 10% to $2.00 per share, consistent with its long-term plan to return approximately 50% of operating cash flow to shareholders. The company is working to improve leverage metrics. While tax benefits from accelerated depreciation could provide $125 million to $250 million in cash benefit, this is outweighed by tariff costs. Regulatory uncertainty🌐 around EPA27 emissions regulations has led to a delay in one product launch (X15) and requires retaining flexibility in engineering spend, impacting the ability to reduce R&D intensity as a percentage of sales.

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