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    Earnings call· Sep 2025(Q3 FY25)

    CENTENE CORP CNC

    Oct 29, 2025 Source

    Executive summary

    Centene Q3 FY25 — Adjusted EPS Raised to at least $2.00 on Medicaid HBR Improvement

    Centene delivered better-than-expected Q3 FY25 adjusted EPS, driven by sequential Medicaid HBR improvement, aided by a Florida revenue adjustment, and strong SG&A performance. The company raised its full-year adjusted EPS forecast to at least $2.00, while prudently provisioning for continued Marketplace utilization volatility. Management is focused on driving margin improvement across all segments in 2026, despite policy uncertainties and anticipated headwinds from PDP and a lower tax rate environment.

    Highlights

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    • Q3 adjusted EPS of $0.50, ahead of previous expectations.

    • Medicaid HBR improved by 150 basis points sequentially to 93.4%.

    • 2025 adjusted EPS forecast raised to at least $2.00, up from $1.75.

    • Medicare Advantage Star ratings improved, with 60% of members in plans at or above 3.5 stars (vs 55% prior year).

    • Adjusted SG&A expense ratio strong at 7.0% in Q3, compared to 8.3% last year.

    Concerns

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    • Marketplace experienced additional medical cost pressure in September, leading to an additional $75 million provision for Q4.

    • A non-cash goodwill impairment charge of $6.7 billion was recorded in the quarter.

    • PDP outperformance in 2025 is expected to be a year-over-year headwind for 2026 guidance.

    • Medicaid behavioral health continues to drive 50% of above-baseline trend.

    Guidance & targets

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    CategoryTargetConfidence
    Full-year 2025 Adjusted EPS
    at least $2.00
    high materiality
    High
    Full-year 2025 Marketplace morbidity impact
    $2.4 billion pretax earnings impact
    medium materiality
    High
    Full-year 2025 Marketplace medical spend provision
    $125 million remaining in Q4, adding another $75 million
    medium materiality
    High
    Full-year 2025 Medicaid composite rate adjustment
    roughly 5.5%
    medium materiality
    High
    Back half 2025 Medicaid HBR
    approximately 93.2%
    high materiality
    High
    Full-year 2025 Medicare segment pretax favorability
    $700 million
    medium materiality
    High
    Full-year 2025 SG&A pretax benefit
    $500 million
    medium materiality
    High
    Full-year 2025 tax rate
    unchanged
    low materiality
    High
    Medicare Advantage breakeven pretax margin
    breakeven
    high materiality
    High
    2026 Marketplace margin
    meaningful margin improvement
    high materiality
    High
    2026 Medicare Advantage margin
    margin improvement
    medium materiality
    High
    2026 PDP performance
    year-over-year headwind
    medium materiality
    Medium
    2026 Medicaid profitability
    consistent with our current full year outlook in 2025
    high materiality
    Medium
    2026 Net investment income
    headwind
    low materiality
    Medium
    2026 Tax rate
    increases
    low materiality
    Medium

    Segment performance

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    SegmentRevenueYoYQoQMargin
    Medicaid
    Medicaid HBR improved sequentially, aided by a significant revenue adjustment in Florida. The segment is seeing fundamental improvement from strategic actions, but behavioral health remains a key driver of trend.
    Sequential HBR improvement: 150 bpsFlorida CMS program revenue adjustment: $150M (net positive)Florida CMS retro revenue: $90M (40 bps on Q3 Medicaid HBR)Medicaid membership: 12.7M
    93.4%
    Marketplace (Commercial)
    Marketplace HBR was on track for Q3. The segment experienced medical cost pressure in September, leading to an additional Q4 provision. Significant repricing efforts for 2026 aim for margin expansion, with a strategic shift towards margin over membership.
    Membership: 5.8MWakely data consistency: $2.4B forecast change (reaffirmed)Additional Q4 medical expense provision: $75M2026 rate filings: mid-30s average increase2026 repricing coverage: 95% of membership2025 low-cost silver positions: 55%2026 low-cost silver positions: 42%
    89.9%
    Medicare
    Medicare segment performed on track. Medicare Advantage is progressing towards its 2027 breakeven goal, supported by improved Star ratings. PDP performance was consistent with expectations and largely contained by risk corridors.
    Star ratings (2026 impact 2027 financials): 60% of members in plans at or above 3.5 stars (vs 55% prior year)Members in 4-star plans: roughly 20%PDP revenue: ~50% of Medicare segment revenue ($37B FY25)
    94.3%

    Operational metrics

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    Adjusted SG&A expense ratio
    7.0%compared to 8.3% last year
    Q3 FY25

    Strong performance, largely due to growth in PDP revenue and leveraging expenses over higher revenues.

    Adjusted SG&A expense ratio
    7.3%compared to 8.3% year-to-date last year
    YTD Q3 FY25

    Strong performance, largely due to growth in PDP revenue and leveraging expenses over higher revenues.

    Investment and other income
    $79 millionup compared to Q2
    Q3 FY25

    Driven by a few gains and temporarily higher cash balances. May harvest unrealized losses in Q4 to improve 2026 trajectory.

    Goodwill impairment charge
    $6.7 billion
    Q3 FY25

    Result of accelerated annual goodwill evaluation due to drop in market cap. No impact on statutory capital, cash, or adjusted EPS.

    Debt-to-cap
    45.5%
    9/30/25

    Well within the sole credit facility financial covenant.

    Revolver capacity
    $4 billion$0 drawn
    Q3 FY25

    Undrawn capacity.

    Cash flow provided by operations
    $1.4 billion
    Q3 FY25

    Primarily driven by net earnings and net timing of pass-through and other payments.

    Unregulated cash on hand
    $357 million
    quarter end

    Cash balance at the end of the quarter.

    Dividends from subsidiaries
    $200 million
    Q4 FY25

    Expected to be received in Q4.

    Medical claims liability
    $21.5 billion
    Q3 FY25

    Total medical claims liability.

    Days in claims payable
    48 daysincrease of 1 day as compared to Q2 FY25
    Q3 FY25

    Increase in days in claims payable.

    Medicaid high-cost drug trend
    slight moderation
    Q3 FY25

    One of the three previously discussed high trending areas in Medicaid.

    Medicaid HBR goal (back half)
    a little ahead of93.5%
    H2 FY25

    Ahead of the previously set goal for the back half of the year.

    Medicaid 9/1 to 10/1 cohort rate
    mid-5s
    annualized

    Consistent with the full year 2025 composite rate.

    Medicaid 1/1 and 4/1 rates
    FY26

    Advocacy is in process for these rates.

    Marketplace Wakely data consistency
    $2.4 billion
    FY25

    Second run of Wakely data was consistent with the forecast change described on the Q2 call.

    Marketplace utilization
    pickup
    September

    Correlated with uptick in national dialogue around rate increases and eAPTC discussion.

    PDP pretax margin
    3s
    FY25

    Expected to run in the 3s for 2025. 2026 guidance will likely be less than this.

    Medicaid HBR
    93.7%
    FY25

    Full year forecast for 2025.

    Medicaid HBR
    93%
    Q4 FY25

    Expected HBR for Q4, contributing to full year forecast.

    Medicaid HBR
    94.9%
    Q2 FY25

    Starting point for HBR improvement.

    Medicaid HBR
    94.2%
    H1 FY25

    First half HBR.

    Medicaid HBR YoY change
    120 basis pointsup from 2024
    FY25

    Year-over-year change in HBR.

    Medicare trend
    high single digit to even maybe 10% plus
    last couple of years

    Assumed to continue for Medicare. Low double digits when composed with bids.

    Marketplace average rate increase
    mid-30s
    FY26

    Average rate increase for 2026 filings, focused on margin over membership.

    Marketplace market contraction
    high teens to mid-30s range
    FY26

    Expected market contraction for 2026, depending on policy outcomes and breakage.

    Industry KPIs

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    MetricValueDetails
    Utilization trendspickup
    Stars rate environment60%%
    Medical loss care ratio93.4%%
    Membership covered lives by line12.7 millionmembers
    Adjusted EPS EBITDA leverage guidanceat least $2.00USD
    Medical cost trend vs pricing assumptionhigh single digit to even maybe 10% plus%

    Risks & headwinds

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    Marketplace medical cost pressure and utilization volatilityQ4 FY25

    Additional $75 million provision for Q4 FY25.

    Mitigation: Prudent posture, repricing for 2026, strengthened digital tools, well-trained call center personnel.

    Uncertainty around eAPTC expiration and policy changes2026 Open Enrollment and beyond

    Potential for market contraction in the high teens to mid-30s range for 2026.

    Mitigation: Products priced to support margin improvement even if eAPTCs expire, prepared for multi-layered enrollment process, additional marketing efforts, broker mobilization.

    Medicaid behavioral health trendOngoing

    Still driving 50% of above-baseline trend.

    Mitigation: Aggressively pulling internal levers, rate advocacy, program changes (e.g., ABA clinical service definition, fraud/waste/abuse interventions).

    PDP outperformance not recurring in 2026FY26

    Expected to be a year-over-year headwind for 2026 adjusted EPS.

    Mitigation: Thoughtful bid construction and disciplined management for Medicare Advantage, PDP product positioning relative to benchmarks.

    Lower tax rate environment and net investment income headwind in 2026FY26

    Net investment income expected to be a headwind, tax rate increases.

    Mitigation: Potential Q4 investment loss harvesting to improve 2026 trajectory.

    Medicaid work requirements and program integrity measuresPrimarily 2027 and beyond for work requirements.

    Expected membership attrition, but not a huge swing factor for 2026.

    Mitigation: Leveraging redetermination lessons, close state collaboration, planning for programmatic changes.

    What to watch in Q4 FY25

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    Wakely data update for Marketplace morbidity

    December
    CurrentConsistent with previous estimates ($2.4B pretax impact)
    TargetContinued consistency or new insights

    Why it matters

    Provides critical visibility into Marketplace risk adjustment assumptions and potential for further adjustments to 2026 pricing.

    As a reminder, the next update from Wakely is expected in December.

    Q&A highlights

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    How comfortable is Centene with getting ahead of trend in the exchanges, especially with competitor exits potentially destabilizing the pool? Is there a point where adverse selection causes a rethinking of the segment?

    Sarah London explained that Q4 Marketplace provisions account for a September utilization uptick. For 2026, rates were built on four components: adjusted 2025 baseline morbidity (validated by Wakely data), a healthy provision for year-over-year trend, the impact of eAPTC expiration, and risk pool shifts from program integrity measures. She noted the mid-30s average rate increase focused on margin over membership, and believes the market is competitive and eAPTCs prevent a 'death spiral'.

    what we built into the revised rates that we talked about filing across 95% of membership were 4 major components. One was that adjusted 2025 baseline morbidity... Two is a healthy provision for trend... Three is the assumption of the expiration of eAPTCs... And then the last is a sort of composite view of the additional risk pool shifts that would be driven by both the continuation of the 2025 program integrity measures and those announced for 2026.

    asked by Josh Raskin · answered by Sarah London

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    Detailed Narrative

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    Medicaid Profitability Improvement

    Centene achieved a 150 basis points sequential improvement in Medicaid HBR to 93.4% in Q3 FY25, aided by a $150 million positive revenue adjustment in Florida's CMS program, with $90 million retro to Q1/Q2. This improvement reflects strategic actions including rate advocacy, program changes, clinical management, network optimization, and fraud, waste, and abuse interventions. The company is targeting a back half Medicaid HBR of approximately 93.2% and expects full-year 2025 Medicaid HBR to be around 93.7%.

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    Marketplace Repricing and Policy Uncertainty

    The Marketplace segment ended Q3 with 5.8 million members, performing in line despite medical cost pressure in September, primarily from outpatient ED. Centene repriced its products for 2026, averaging mid-30s rate increases, across 95% of its membership to account for baseline morbidity, trend, eAPTC expiry, and program integrity measures, aiming for meaningful margin expansion in 2026. The outcome of congressional dialogue on eAPTCs remains uncertain, but the company is prepared for various scenarios, including potential market contraction in the high teens to mid-30s range.

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    Medicare Segment Performance and Star Ratings

    Both Medicare Advantage and PDP segments performed in line with expectations. Medicare Advantage is progressing towards a 2027 breakeven goal, supported by improved 2026 Star ratings, with 60% of members now in plans at or above 3.5 stars (up from 55% prior year) and roughly 20% in 4-star plans. PDP performance was consistent with expectations and largely contained by risk corridors, providing increased visibility for Q4, with 2025 pretax margins expected in the 3s.

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    SG&A Efficiency and Investment Income

    The adjusted SG&A expense ratio remained strong at 7.0% in Q3, down from 8.3% last year, reflecting continued leveraging of expenses over higher revenues and good discipline. Investment income was stronger than expected in Q3, up $79 million compared to Q2, due to one-time📎 gains and temporarily higher cash balances. The company may harvest unrealized losses in Q4 to improve the 2026 investment income trajectory.

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    Goodwill Impairment and Balance Sheet

    Centene recorded a non-cash goodwill impairment charge of $6.7 billion in Q3, resulting from an accelerated annual evaluation due to a drop in market cap. This charge has no impact on statutory capital, cash, or adjusted EPS. The company maintains a strong balance sheet with a debt-to-cap ratio of 45.5% (well below the 60% covenant limit), $0 drawn on its $4 billion revolver, and $1.4 billion in operating cash flow in Q3.

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    2026 Outlook and Strategic Focus

    While detailed 2026 guidance will be provided in February, Centene anticipates meaningful margin improvement in Marketplace and Medicare Advantage. Medicaid profitability is expected to be consistent with the improved 2025 outlook. The company acknowledges potential headwinds from PDP outperformance not recurring, lower net investment income, and an increased tax rate, but remains focused on driving overall EPS growth and margin improvement through operational efficiencies and managing policy landscape changes.

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