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    CSX
    Earnings call· Mar 2025(Q1 FY25)

    CSX CORP CSX

    Apr 16, 2025 Source

    Executive summary

    CSX Q1 FY25 — Operational Challenges Impact Profitability, Long-Term Strategy Intact

    CSX faced significant operational challenges in Q1 FY25, including severe winter weather and disruptions from major infrastructure projects, leading to a 7% revenue decline and a 24% EPS decrease. Management acknowledges the performance shortfall, emphasizing a commitment to improving network fluidity and efficiency. Despite near-term headwinds, the company maintains confidence in its long-term strategy, highlighted by a growing industrial development pipeline and continued capital returns, with expectations for sequential improvement through the year.

    Highlights

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    • Intermodal volumes increased 2% year-over-year due to an uptick in port traffic.

    • FRA injury rate saw a third straight sequential decline and improved year-over-year.

    • FRA train accident rate also declined sequentially and improved year-over-year.

    • Industrial development pipeline reached nearly 600 projects by quarter end, with 24 new facilities going live.

    • Returned nearly $1 billion to shareholders in Q1.

    Concerns

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    • Total revenue decreased 7% year-over-year to $3.4 billion.

    • Earnings per share decreased 24% year-over-year.

    • Total volume decreased 1% year-over-year.

    • Operating expenses increased 2% year-over-year, including $45 million in additional costs from network disruptions and weather.

    • Coal revenue declined 27% on 9% lower volume due to lower export prices, producer issues, and operational challenges.

    Guidance & targets

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    CategoryTargetConfidence
    Full-year volume growth
    overall volume growth
    high materiality
    Medium
    Commodity price headwind
    similar commodity price headwind
    medium materiality
    High
    Full-year Capital Expenditures
    unchanged
    high materiality
    High
    Non-Blue Ridge Capital Expenditures
    roughly flat to 2024
    medium materiality
    High
    Blue Ridge rebuild Capital Expenditures
    exceed $400 million
    high materiality
    High
    Headcount
    about flat through the year
    medium materiality
    High
    Profitability
    trough for our profitability
    high materiality
    High
    Q2 Profitability
    better than Q1 this year
    high materiality
    High
    Industrial Development Facilities
    up to 50 additional facilities
    medium materiality
    High
    Q2 Tax Payment
    roughly $425 million
    medium materiality
    High

    Segment performance

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    SegmentRevenueYoYQoQMargin
    Merchandise
    RPU increased due to higher core pricing gains offsetting lower fuel surcharge and negative mix. Cement volume was favorable due to new production ramp-up. Market demand for ag and food was strong but limited by operational challenges. Metals and equipment remained sluggish.
    Volume growth YoY: -2%RPU growth YoY: +1%Fertilizer volume growth YoY: +2%Fertilizer revenue: flatMinerals volume growth YoY: -1%Cement revenue growth YoY: +4%Chemicals revenue growth YoY: +1%Chemicals volume growth YoY: -1%Forest products volume growth YoY: -4%Metals and equipment volume growth YoY: -7%Automotive volume growth YoY: -7%Automotive revenue growth YoY: -8%
    declined 2%-2%
    Coal
    Revenue and volume declines were driven by lower export prices, producer issues, and operational challenges. Export tonnage was partially impacted by two significant temporary mine outages. Domestic demand trends were positive, supported by higher natural gas prices and utility demand.
    Volume growth YoY: -9%RPU growth YoY: -20%RPU growth QoQ: -4%Export tonnage growth YoY: -12%Domestic tonnage growth YoY: -4%
    declined 27%-27%
    Intermodal
    Volume growth was driven by international activity and positive trends in container import flows. RPU was lower due to fuel surcharge and stronger international shipments. Domestic volume was flat, with new initiatives offsetting mixed results. Visibility for the rest of the year is low, but the trucking market seems past the bottom.
    Volume growth YoY: +2%RPU growth YoY: -5%RPU impact from fuel surcharge: -3%Domestic volume: flat
    down 3%-3%

    Operational metrics

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    Total volume
    -1%YoY
    Q1 FY25

    Compared to last year.

    Total revenue
    $3.4 billiondown 7% YoY
    Q1 FY25

    From the same period last year.

    Earnings per share
    -24%YoY
    Q1 FY25

    Reflecting effects of margin from reduced revenues and challenged network performance.

    Operating expense increase
    +2%YoY
    Q1 FY25

    Total first quarter expense increased by 2% or $38 million.

    Additional costs from network disruptions and weather
    $45 million
    Q1 FY25

    Included in total first quarter expense increase.

    Interest and other expense
    $14 millionhigher compared to prior year
    Q1 FY25

    Expected to step up slightly following debt issuance in March.

    Income tax expense decrease
    $76 millionfell
    Q1 FY25

    On lower pretax earnings.

    EPS headwind from commodity prices
    $0.04
    Q1 FY25

    Driven by declines in export coal benchmarks and net fuel prices.

    Fuel cost decrease
    $50 million
    Q1 FY25

    Driven by a lower gallon price and savings from efficiency and lower volume.

    Gallons per GTM cumulative savings
    $50 million
    cumulative

    Gallons per GTM has improved on a year-over-year basis for 5 consecutive quarters.

    Labor and fringe expense increase
    $16 millionup
    Q1 FY25

    Primarily due to inflation.

    Purchased services and other expense increase
    $54 millionincreased
    Q1 FY25

    Inflation and other items drove the remainder.

    Depreciation increase
    $15 millionup
    Q1 FY25

    Due to a larger asset base.

    Equipment and rents increase
    $3 millionincreased
    Q1 FY25
    Property additions
    $133 million
    Q1 FY25

    Investing for safety, reliability, and long-term growth.

    Cash returned to shareholders
    nearly $1 billion
    Q1 FY25

    Approach remains balanced and opportunistic, factoring in attractive current share valuation.

    Australian benchmark coal price
    $185
    Q1 FY25

    Average price over the first quarter, currently sits around that level.

    Commodity price headwind
    $300 million
    FY25

    The biggest part of the $350 million total headwind for the year.

    Revenue opportunity from improved service
    $1 million plus
    Q1 FY25

    Internal math suggests this amount in revenue opportunity if cycle times were more normalized in some markets.

    Rail margins
    40%
    FY23

    Historical performance, demonstrating prior capability.

    Rail margins
    39%
    FY24

    Historical performance, demonstrating prior capability.

    Industry KPIs

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    MetricValueDetails
    Service metrics55%%

    Orderbook & backlog

    1
    Industrial development project pipelinenearly 600Q1 FY25

    growing

    1/4 of projects under contract or nearing final site selection; 24 new facilities went live in Q1 FY25

    Capital programs

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    Blue Ridge subdivision rebuildunderwayexceed $400 million
    Period spend: $133 million

    Total expected before insurance recoveries. Q1 spending towards the project.

    Risks & headwinds

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    Operational Challenges from Infrastructure ProjectsQ1 FY25, impacting Q2 FY25

    performance fell short of expectations, reduced revenues, incurred more expense

    Mitigation: taking actions to stabilize operations, improve efficiency, and enhance coordination across the ONE CSX team

    Severe Weather and FloodingQ1 FY25, continuing into early Q2 FY25

    around $45 million of additional costs related to network disruptions, congestion and severe winter weather

    Mitigation: working to address increased cars online, temporarily adjusting planned capital track and structures program to reduce activity in affected areas

    Lower Commodity PricesQ1 FY25, similar impact expected in Q2, easing in H2 FY25

    declines in export coal benchmarks and net fuel prices drove a $0.04 headwind to EPS; full-year commodity price headwind of about $300 million

    Mitigation: focus on operational efficiency to offset impacts

    Trade and Tariff Policy Uncertaintynear-term

    difficult to project a reasonable range for full-year volume

    Mitigation: staying close to customers, partnering to ensure supply chains remain resilient and efficient, looking for opportunities to grow together including investments in U.S. manufacturing

    What to watch in Q2 FY25

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    Network Fluidity and Service Metrics

    Q2 FY25
    CurrentOn-time arrivals 55%, Origination 68%, yard dwell increased, cars online increased
    TargetImprovement in network fluidity, reduced dwell, lower cars online, improved TPC

    Why it matters

    Essential for restoring customer service, capturing missed revenue opportunities, and reducing operational costs.

    We expect our performance to improve from first quarter even as we manage the ongoing infrastructure projects.

    Q&A highlights

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    Asked for a breakdown of the operational challenges (infrastructure projects, weather, execution) and an estimate of how quickly performance could improve.

    Mike Cory attributed challenges to compounding events and significant weather, not long train strategy. He outlined actions: reducing cars online, adding locomotives, transferring crews, and adjusting capital programs. He expects improvement through Q2, aiming for a full reset by Q3, but noted it won't be overnight.

    Look, we got no excuses for where we are. What we're dealing with are the results of significant compounding events basically that have built over several months, right up to last week's flooding and line closure of one of our most critical lines.

    asked by Tom Wadewitz · answered by Michael Cory

    2 min read6 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

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    Operational Challenges and Recovery Plan

    CSX experienced significant operational challenges in Q1 FY25, including severe winter weather and disruptions from two major infrastructure projects: the Howard Street Tunnel and Blue Ridge subdivision rebuilds. These events led to network congestion, reduced fluidity, and increased expenses. Management is implementing a recovery plan focused on reducing cars online, adding locomotives to congested areas, deploying additional mechanical staff, and temporarily adjusting planned capital track and structures programs to increase network capacity and flexibility. The goal is to stabilize operations and improve service metrics, with expectations for gradual improvement throughout the year, aiming for a full reset by Q3.

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    Impact on Revenue and Profitability

    The operational disruptions resulted in missed revenue opportunities, particularly in unit trains (coal in January/February, grain throughout the quarter), and increased expenses by $45 million due to network disruptions, congestion, and weather. Total revenue declined 7% year-over-year to $3.4 billion, and EPS decreased 24%. The company anticipates Q1 to be the trough for profitability, with sequential improvement expected as network fluidity is restored and demand opportunities are captured. Commodity price headwinds, primarily from lower export coal benchmarks and reduced fuel surcharge, also contributed to the decline.

    03

    Industrial Development Momentum

    Despite near-term operational issues, CSX's industrial development program continues to show strong momentum. The pipeline of projects reached nearly 600 by quarter-end, with a quarter of these under contract or nearing final site selection. In Q1, 24 new facilities went live on the network, and up to 50 additional facilities are scheduled to start service over the next nine months. This sustained activity supports management's positive long-term outlook for volume growth, particularly benefiting from the trend towards expanded U.S. manufacturing capacity.

    04

    Customer Relationships and Communication

    Management emphasized the strength of customer relationships, noting that while the Net Promoter Score slightly declined in Q1, it remains significantly higher than previous years. The company prioritizes transparent communication with customers regarding network disruptions and service adjustments, which has helped mitigate issues and maintain trust. No major contracts were lost despite the service challenges, indicating the effectiveness of their customer service approach.

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    Tariff and Trade Policy Impact

    The company is closely monitoring rapidly changing trade and tariff policies, acknowledging both uncertainty and potential opportunities. While some near-term international intermodal volume pull-forward📎 was observed due to anticipated tariffs, the longer-term trend of increased U.S. manufacturing and potential decoupling from China could significantly benefit CSX's network, especially in the Southeast and Midwest. Management sees potential for increased steel production and automotive manufacturing in the U.S. as a result of these policies.

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    Capital Allocation and Shareholder Returns

    CSX remains committed to its capital allocation strategy, prioritizing investments in safety, reliability, and long-term growth. Property additions in Q1 included $133 million towards the Blue Ridge subdivision rebuild, with full-year expectations for this project to exceed $400 million before insurance recoveries. The company returned nearly $1 billion to shareholders in Q1 through a balanced and opportunistic approach, factoring in attractive share valuation and monitoring the broader economic climate.

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