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    Earnings call· Dec 2025(Q4 FY25)

    DEUTSCHE BANK AKTIENGESELLSCHAFT Q4 FY25 earnings call DB

    Jan 29, 2026 Source

    Executive summary

    Deutsche Bank Q4 FY25 — Record profits, all 2025 targets met, payout ratio raised to 60%

    A capstone quarter: management closes a five-year turnaround having delivered every 2025 target and pivots explicitly from defense to offense, framing 2026 as the first year of scaling the Global Hausbank toward its 2028 return and efficiency ambitions. The thesis rests on stepped-up capital return, self-funded growth investment, and credibility earned through execution, with German fiscal stimulus and IBCM repositioning as the '27-'28 upside. It also marks CFO James von Moltke's final results before Raja Akram succeeds him.

    Highlights

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    • Record 2025 pretax profit of EUR 9.7B (+84% YoY) and net profit of EUR 7.1B; post-tax RoTE 10.3%, meeting the >10% full-year target

    • Full-year revenues of EUR 32B (+7% YoY, +26% since 2021), delivering a 6% revenue CAGR since 2021 at the midpoint of the 5.5%-6.5% target range

    • Cost/income ratio of 64% (target <65%) with EUR 2.5B of operational efficiencies; pre-provision profit of EUR 11.4B, up threefold since 2021, and 17% operating leverage

    • CET1 ratio of 14.2% after absorbing Q4 capital headwinds; proposed distributions of EUR 2.9B (EUR 1 DPS + EUR 1B buyback) at a 50% payout, taking cumulative 2021-2025 distributions to EUR 8.5B vs an EUR 8B target

    • DWS AUM surpassed EUR 1.08T with Q4 net inflows of EUR 10B; Investment Bank FIC posted its strongest Q4 on record (+6% YoY)

    Concerns

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    • CET1 fell 30bps QoQ, including 44bps of one-off headwinds (OCI-filter discontinuation 27bps, operational-risk RWA update 17bps)

    • IBCM full-year revenues declined 6% YoY, driven by mark-to-market losses on LDCM exposures early in the year

    • Q4 Stage 3 provisions stepped up (Corporate Bank middle-market events, one larger IB CRE single-name event); full-year CLPs EUR 1.7B (~36-38bps)

    • Commercial real estate tail risk persists, particularly US West Coast office, with potential downward appraisal revisions in 2026

    • Public disclosure of a prosecutor visit regarding alleged delayed suspicious-activity reporting on 2013-2018 transactions

    Guidance & targets

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    CategoryTargetConfidence
    Full-year 2026 revenue
    around EUR 33 billion
    high materiality
    High
    Full-year 2026 banking book net interest income
    around EUR 14 billion
    high materiality
    High
    Full-year 2026 noninterest expenses
    slightly above EUR 21 billion (~3% over 2025)
    high materiality
    High
    2026 incremental growth/efficiency investment
    around EUR 900 million
    medium materiality
    High
    Full-year 2026 effective tax rate
    around 28%
    medium materiality
    Medium
    Full-year 2026 Corporate Bank revenue
    modest increase, accelerating sequential growth into H2
    medium materiality
    Medium
    Full-year 2026 Investment Bank revenue (incl. IBCM growth, flat FIC)
    slightly higher vs 2025; FIC essentially flat
    medium materiality
    Medium
    Full-year 2026 Private Bank revenue
    slightly higher
    medium materiality
    Medium
    Full-year 2026 Asset Management (DWS) revenue
    modest increase
    medium materiality
    Medium
    Q1 2026 revenue
    flat year-on-year
    medium materiality
    Medium
    Provision for credit losses trajectory
    trend moderately downwards in 2026; toward ~30bps run-rate through 2028
    high materiality
    Medium
    Shareholder payout ratio
    increase to 60% starting 2026
    high materiality
    High
    Additional share buyback (H2 2026)
    additional distribution in H2 2026, subject to authorizations
    high materiality
    Medium
    Post-tax return on tangible equity (2028 target)
    greater than 13%
    high materiality
    Medium
    Cost/income ratio (2028 target)
    below 60%
    high materiality
    Medium
    Proposed FY2025 dividend per share
    EUR 1 per share (~EUR 1.9 billion total)
    high materiality
    High
    FY2025 share buyback
    EUR 1 billion (supervisory authorization received)
    high materiality
    High
    CET1 operating range
    13.5% to 14%
    medium materiality
    Medium
    Three-year investment program and operating efficiencies
    EUR 1.5B investment + EUR 2B operating efficiencies over 2026-2028
    high materiality
    Medium
    Significant risk transfer (SRT) usage
    increase ~25%; EUR 5 billion incremental for 2026-2027
    medium materiality
    Medium
    Structural hedge rollover benefit (2026)
    as much as EUR 500 million
    medium materiality
    Medium
    DWS 2028 EPS growth (raised)
    10% to 15% per year
    medium materiality
    Medium
    Corporate Bank exit-2026 revenue growth
    mid-single digits exiting 2026 (vs 8% medium-term conviction)
    medium materiality
    Medium

    Segment performance

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    SegmentRevenueYoYQoQMargin
    Corporate Bank
    Margin normalization and FX headwinds largely offset by rate hedging, higher average deposits and fee income. Higher Q4 provisions from a few Stage 3 middle-market events, not seen as a pattern. Global footprint across ~60 countries cited as a durable operational-deposit advantage.
    Net commission & fee income growth: +4% YoY (Q4), +5% (FY 2025)Deposit volume change: +EUR 25B QoQ (site deposits toward year-end)Loan growth (FX-adjusted): +EUR 2B QoQ, +EUR 7B YoYUnderlying loan growth (ex-SVA exits): >5-6% (2025)
    essentially flat YoY; stable sequentially in Q4~flat (FY 2025)stableFY post-tax RoTE 15.3%; cost/income 62%
    Investment Bank
    FIC strength led by FX and emerging markets despite lower volatility; FIC financing revenues slightly higher on targeted balance-sheet deployment. IBCM pipeline described as strongest in years and at least double-digit higher than 2025 across investment-grade debt, leveraged lending and M&A. Q4 IB provisions included one larger single-name CRE event offset by Stage 1/2 releases.
    FIC revenue: +6% YoY (Q4), strongest Q4 on recordIBCM revenue: slightly lower Q4; -6% FY (LDCM mark-to-market losses early in year)Client activity: +11% YoY (2025)Provision for credit losses: EUR 97M (Q4), ~flat YoY
    Q4 +5% YoY+5% (Q4)
    Private Bank
    Growth in discretionary portfolio mandates and deposit revenues; Personal Banking flat as deposit growth offset ~EUR 80M of episodic/lending items (ex-those, +5%). Ongoing transformation efficiencies drive operating leverage; RM hiring in Wealth Management ramping (24 RMs onboarded and ~40 hired in early January).
    Net interest margin: +~30bps YoYNet inflows into AuM: EUR 27B (FY 2025), incl. EUR 12B investment productsCumulative net inflows: EUR 110B since 2021Wealth Management revenue: +5% YoY adjusted / +10% reportedBranch closures: 126 (2025); ~100 more planned in 2026Workforce reduction: ~1,600 (2025), further net reductions expected
    EUR 2.4B (Q4)NII +10% YoY (Q4)FY post-tax RoTE 10.5%; cost/income <70%; 14% operating leverage (Q4); noninterest expenses -11% YoY
    Asset Management (DWS)
    Higher management fees on higher average AUM and higher fee levels across almost all asset classes; other revenues improved on a small guaranteed-product valuation gain. DWS raised 2028 ambitions (EPS growth 10-15%/yr; performance/transaction fees 4-8% of net revenues; cost/income <55% by 2027).
    Assets under management: EUR 1.08T (surpassed EUR 1T in 2025)Net inflows: EUR 10B (Q4) — positive across passive/X-trackers, active, alternatives; incl. EUR 5B cash products, -EUR 2B advisory outflowsNet new assets: EUR 85B over 4 years (2021-2025)EPS: EUR 4.64 (FY 2025)Performance fees: significant YoY increase (infrastructure fund recognition)
    +25% YoY (Q4)+25% (Q4)Q4 pretax profit +73% YoY; RoTE 41% (+20pp YoY); cost/income 55%
    Corporate & Other
    Driven primarily by shareholder expenses, legacy portfolios and other centrally held items, partially offset by positive revenues in valuation and timing differences. C&O contribution expected to normalize (be less of a benefit) in 2026 vs 2025.
    Q4 pretax loss: EUR 109M
    Pretax loss of EUR 109M (Q4)

    Operational metrics

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    Cost/income ratio
    64%target <65%; targeted below 60% by 2028
    FY 2025

    Delivered below the <65% target; self-funded foundational investments.

    Post-tax return on tangible equity
    10.3%met >10% target; target >13% by 2028
    FY 2025

    All four divisions delivered double-digit returns.

    Pre-provision profit
    EUR 11.4Bup threefold since 2021
    FY 2025

    Reflects strong revenue growth combined with cost discipline.

    Adjusted costs (non-GAAP)
    EUR 20.3B FY / EUR 5.1B Q4broadly flat YoY; in line with guidance
    FY 2025 / Q4 2025

    Non-GAAP adjusted cost measure; total noninterest expense of EUR 20.7B FY (statement line) down 10% YoY.

    Operational efficiencies program
    EUR 2.5B deliveredself-funded revenue growth
    2025

    Enabled self-funding of technology, control and franchise investment.

    CET1 ratio
    14.2%-30bps QoQ
    Q4 2025

    After deduction of the EUR 2.9B proposed 2025 distributions; management targets a 13.5%-14% operating range.

    Leverage ratio
    4.6%flat QoQ
    Q4 2025

    Supported by the November EUR 1B AT1 issuance.

    Liquidity coverage ratio
    144%
    year-end 2025

    Liquidity metrics described as robust.

    Net stable funding ratio
    119%
    year-end 2025

    Complements the LCR in the funding profile.

    Tangible book value per share
    EUR 30.98+4% YoY
    year-end 2025

    Improved profitability drove TBVPS growth over the strategy period.

    Effective tax rate
    27%2026 guided ~28%
    FY 2025

    Benefited from German tax reform and geographical mix of income.

    Cost of risk / CLP rate
    ~36-38bpstrending toward ~30bps by 2028
    FY 2025

    Provisions raw dollar line held from filing; the rate and its drivers are the call-only enrichment.

    AT1 issuance
    EUR 1B+13bps to leverage ratio
    November 2025

    Capital instrument issuance supporting the leverage ratio.

    Structural hedge rollover position
    ~90% locked via swapsrollover gap ~2.5% vs 1.9% a year earlier
    2026 (as positioned at year-end 2025)

    Point-in-time hedge positioning; the ~EUR 500M 2026 rollover benefit is captured as forward guidance.

    Revenue CAGR since 2021
    6%midpoint of 5.5%-6.5% target
    2021-2025

    Total 2025 revenue (EUR 32B, statement line) omitted; the multi-year growth rate is the call-only metric.

    Sustainable finance volume
    EUR 98B FY (EUR 31B in Q4)highest annual volume since 2021
    FY 2025 / Q4 2025

    Alongside significantly improved ESG ratings.

    Industry KPIs

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    MetricValueDetails
    AUMEUR 1.08 trillionEUR
    Fee ratehigher fee levels from almost all asset classes
    Performance revenuesignificant increase

    Deals & partnerships

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    European Investment Bank (EIB) and KfWpartnership / joint program

    Sewing referenced working with banks like KfW and a joint program announcement with the EIB to channel defense and infrastructure lending as German fiscal stimulus deploys; activity described as slowly starting in Q4 2025 and early 2026.

    Risks & headwinds

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    AML / delayed suspicious-activity reporting investigationongoing

    Unquantified; prosecutor visit concerning 2013-2018 transactions

    Mitigation: Cooperating fully with the prosecutor; builds on earlier similar investigations; management does not anticipate any impact on financial or strategic plans.

    Commercial real estate tail, particularly US West Coast office2026 (idiosyncratic tail)

    ~EUR 2B of US office exposure exited in Q4 (loan sales + payoffs); remaining book average LTV rose; potential downward appraisal revisions in 2026

    Mitigation: Management believes it is in the tail of the cycle; broader indices stable; CRE provisions expected to ameliorate; data-center CRE lending mostly to investment-grade offtakers.

    Elevated Stage 3 credit provisionsQ4 2025 / near-term

    Q4 step-up in Corporate Bank (middle-market events) and IB (one larger single-name CRE event, IB provision EUR 97M)

    Mitigation: Not viewed as a trend; Stage 3 run rates expected to normalize just below Q4 levels; non-repeat of the single-name item in 2026.

    Deposit competition / teaser rates2026

    Unquantified; competitors offering teaser rates for new/fresh money across markets, including Germany

    Mitigation: DB running its own Private Bank campaigns; value proposition and operational reliability (Corporate Bank, ~60-country footprint) cited as hard to replicate; confident of meeting/exceeding deposit targets.

    Corporate Bank margin compression and FX headwindsH1 2026

    Unquantified; year-on-year headwinds masking underlying momentum in H1 2026

    Mitigation: Headwinds expected to grow over in H2 2026, restoring sequential and year-on-year growth; 5% net fee income growth already offsetting rate pressure.

    Regulatory capital reform (FRTB / Basel Endgame) uncertaintypending finalization

    Assumed in the plan; management now views that assumption as conservative

    Mitigation: European reconsideration/simplification of regulation gaining momentum; management treats the assumed FRTB impact as an absolute cushion/upside to the plan.

    Net interest margin / deposit repricing pressure2026

    Some deposit compression contributed to muted NII progression despite strong deposit volumes

    Mitigation: Structural hedge rollover (~EUR 500M benefit) and targeted loan/deposit growth; SVA-driven repricing and portfolio discipline.

    Q&A highlights

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    How do you reach EUR 33B given strong Corporate Bank/FIC comps, what FX rates are assumed, and where is the ~EUR 900M investment being spent?

    Sewing walked through growth in every division (Corporate Bank modest with H2 acceleration, IBCM-led IB growth, Private Bank and DWS higher), with FIC conservatively planned flat as a buffer. Raja gave the planning FX at ~$1.18 (spot ~$1.19), called it manageable, and confirmed positive operating leverage in 2026 despite front-loaded investments.

    we are absolutely committing to absolutely having positive operating leverage starting in 2026.

    asked by Nicolas Payen · answered by Christian Sewing

    3 min read7 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

    01

    Full-year 2025: all targets delivered, record profitability

    Deutsche Bank reported 2025 revenues of EUR 32B, up 7% YoY and 26% since 2021, a 6% CAGR at the midpoint of the 5.5%-6.5% target. Cost discipline drove noninterest expenses down 10% to EUR 20.7B, nearly EUR 1B below 2021, producing 17% operating leverage and pre-provision profit of EUR 11.4B (up threefold since 2021). Pretax profit hit a record EUR 9.7B (+84% YoY), net profit EUR 7.1B, and post-tax RoTE 10.3%, meeting the >10% target. All four divisions delivered double-digit returns and lower cost/income ratios versus 2021.

    02

    Next-phase strategy: scaling the Global Hausbank to 2028

    Management framed 2026 as the first year of a pivot from defense to offense. The 2028 roadmap targets post-tax RoTE >13% (from 10.3%) and cost/income below 60% (from 64%), via three levers: focused growth, strict capital discipline and a scalable operating model. Payout ratio rises to 60% from 2026. Of an expected EUR 5B German-stimulus-linked revenue uplift, only a low-three-digit-million amount is in the 2026 plan, with the bulk deliberately placed in 2027-2028 as defense and infrastructure financing, then broader corporate activity, ramps.

    03

    Capital, distributions and regulatory tailwinds

    CET1 finished at 14.2% after 44bps of Q4 one-off📎 headwinds (OCI-filter discontinuation 27bps, operational-risk RWA update 17bps) plus 9bps of higher market RWA, partly offset by 21bps of capital generation. The EUR 2.9B of proposed 2025 distributions are already deducted. Leverage ratio held at 4.6%, aided by the November EUR 1B AT1 issuance. Management signalled that a European reconsideration of regulation makes the conservatively-planned FRTB impact look unlikely to land as assumed, representing upside/cushion to the plan.

    04

    Net interest income and the structural hedge

    Banking-book NII was EUR 3.4B in Q4 and EUR 13.3B for 2025, guided to ~EUR 14B in 2026. The largest contributor is structural hedge rollover, ~90% locked through swaps, with the rollover gap versus the 10-year swap rate widening to ~2.5% (from 1.9% a year earlier), worth as much as EUR 500M. Targeted deposit and loan growth add further, though deliberate SVA-driven loan-portfolio exits and first-half margin/FX grow-over effects mute the underlying operating growth of NII.

    05

    Credit quality and commercial real estate

    Full-year provisions were EUR 1.7B, down 7% YoY despite macro uncertainty🌐 and CRE headwinds. Q4 provisions were stable overall as higher Stage 3 (Corporate Bank middle-market events, one larger IB CRE single name) was offset by Stage 1/2 releases on improved macro forecasts. Management sees the current ~36-38bps cost of risk trending toward ~30bps by 2028. US West Coast office remains the key CRE tail; Q4 saw ~EUR 2B of office exits (loan sales plus payoffs), which raised the remaining book's average LTV; further appraisal downward revisions remain possible.

    06

    CFO transition and cultural legacy

    This was James von Moltke's final results presentation after joining as CFO in 2017; Raja Akram succeeds him. Sewing and von Moltke framed the tenure's key legacy as an instilled culture of accountability, discipline and long-term thinking, exemplified by the deliberate 2024 decision to raise the cost/income target to capture long-term investment upside. Von Moltke highlighted Shareholder Value Add (SVA) tools, originated in finance and adopted firm-wide, as a significant forward driver of decision-making.

    07

    AML investigation disclosure

    Management confirmed a prosecutor visit to its offices concerning transactions dating to 2013-2018, with an allegation of potentially delayed suspicious-activity reporting that builds on earlier investigations of a similar nature. Timing was called unfortunate given the results. The bank said it is cooperating fully and does not anticipate any impact on its financial or strategic plans.

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