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    Earnings call· Mar 2025(Q1 FY25)

    FREEPORT-MCMORAN Q1 FY25 earnings call FCX

    Apr 24, 2025 Source

    Executive summary

    Freeport-McMoRan Q1 FY25 — Strong Operational Execution and Strategic Growth Initiatives

    Freeport-McMoRan delivered solid Q1 FY25 results, exceeding copper sales expectations despite planned maintenance in Indonesia and timing impacts on gold shipments. The company is advancing strategic growth projects, notably the accelerated PTFI smelter repair and leach innovation, while benefiting from strong copper market fundamentals and U.S. pricing premiums. Management remains focused on cost efficiency and disciplined capital allocation, with significant operational improvements and free cash flow generation anticipated for the remainder of the year.

    Highlights

    5
    • Copper sales exceeded expectations, and annual sales guidance is on track.

    • Generated $1.9 billion in EBITDA, with expectations for improved margins and cash flows in the balance of the year.

    • PTFI smelter repairs are ahead of schedule, with start-up expected by end of May (1 month sooner).

    • U.S. copper sales benefiting from a 13% premium over LME, equating to an approximate $800 million annual financial benefit.

    • Repurchased 2.3 million shares for approximately $80 million year-to-date.

    Concerns

    3
    • Gold shipments were impacted by timing in Q1.

    • Operating rates in Indonesia were impacted by maintenance on one SAG mill, resulting in a 25% reduction in mill rates during Q1.

    • Potential impact of tariffs on purchased inputs, with a 5% estimate on non-labor/services costs, driven by 145% Chinese tariff.

    Guidance & targets

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    CategoryTargetConfidence
    Annual Sales Guidance
    On track
    high materiality
    High
    Quarterly Copper Sales Volumes
    Expected to average about 20% more
    medium materiality
    High
    Gold Sales
    Expected to average nearly 4x
    medium materiality
    High
    Unit Net Cash Costs
    Expected to be 30% lower on average
    medium materiality
    High
    Leach Run Rate
    300 million pounds per annum
    medium materiality
    High
    Leach Run Rate (Future)
    800 million pounds per annum
    medium materiality
    High
    PTFI Smelter Start-up
    By the end of May
    high materiality
    High
    U.S. Production
    To increase
    medium materiality
    High
    U.S. Unit Costs
    To trend lower each year
    medium materiality
    High
    U.S. Unit Cost Target
    $2.50 per pound
    high materiality
    High
    Indonesia Annual Copper Sales
    1.6 billion pounds
    medium materiality
    High
    Indonesia Annual Gold Sales
    1.6 million ounces
    medium materiality
    High
    Indonesia Net Cash Credit
    $0.47 per pound
    medium materiality
    High
    El Abra Permit Application Filing
    By the end of this year
    medium materiality
    High
    Kucing Liar Production Commencement
    By the end of this decade
    medium materiality
    High
    Full-year 2025 Net Unit Costs
    Approximately $1.50 per pound
    high materiality
    High
    Annual EBITDA ($4 Copper)
    Over $11 billion per annum
    high materiality
    High
    Annual EBITDA ($5 Copper)
    Over $15 billion per annum
    high materiality
    High
    Operating Cash Flows ($4 Copper)
    $8 billion per year
    high materiality
    High
    Operating Cash Flows ($5 Copper)
    Over $11 billion per year
    high materiality
    High
    Capital Expenditures
    Approximately $4.4 billion
    high materiality
    High
    Capital Expenditures
    Approximately $4.4 billion
    high materiality
    High
    Discretionary Capital Expenditures
    Approximately $1.6 billion to $1.7 billion per year
    medium materiality
    High

    Segment performance

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    SegmentRevenueYoYQoQMargin
    U.S.
    Focus on enhancing efficiencies, improving costs and margins, and rebuilding workforce skills. Autonomous haul truck conversion at Bagdad is progressing well.
    Production: Expected to increase in 2025 vs 2024, and further in 2026 and 2027Unit costs: Targeted to trend lower each year over 2025-2027 periodContractor hours at Morenci: Down ~20% over last few quarters
    South America
    Cerro Verde posted a solid quarter with improved mill rates, better recoveries, and higher molybdenum volumes, mitigating lower ore grades. El Abra is testing heat in its leach process for incremental near-term production and advancing a major expansion project with CODELCO.
    Unit net cash costs: $0.20 per pound lower than comparable quarter last year
    Indonesia
    Operating rates in Q1 were impacted by planned maintenance on a SAG mill, timed with the export permit extension. Strong production is expected in the balance of the year. Smelter repairs are ahead of schedule, and the precious metals refinery is ramping up to full capacity, positioning the company for operating rights extension.
    Mill rates: 25% reduction during Q1 due to SAG mill maintenance2025 Annual Copper Sales: 1.6 billion pounds2025 Annual Gold Sales: 1.6 million ouncesNet cash credit: $0.47 per pound

    Operational metrics

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    EBITDA
    $1.9 billion
    Q1 FY25

    Generated in the first quarter.

    Leach run rate
    300 million40% increase
    Year-end 2025

    Target for low-cost copper production from leach innovation projects.

    Leach run rate
    800 million
    Future

    Long-term target for low-cost copper production from leach innovation projects.

    U.S. copper sales premium
    13%
    Current

    Reflects market expectations for a tariff on U.S. imports.

    U.S. copper sales premium
    $0.57
    Current

    Equates to the 13% premium above LME as of yesterday.

    Annual financial benefit from U.S. premium
    $800 million
    Annual

    Approximate bottom line benefit on Freeport's U.S. copper sales.

    Contractor hours
    Down about 20%
    Last few quarters

    Result of improved retention of workforce and rebuilding skills.

    Autonomous trucks converted
    12 of 33
    Current

    Part of the autonomous haul truck conversion project.

    EBITDA sensitivity to copper price
    $425 million
    Annual

    Leverage to copper prices.

    EBITDA sensitivity to gold price
    $150 million
    Annual

    Benefit from improving gold prices.

    Shares repurchased
    2.3 million
    Year-to-date

    Repurchased in the open market.

    Value of shares repurchased
    $80 million
    Year-to-date

    Value of shares repurchased in the open market.

    Total distributed to shareholders
    $5 billion
    Since 2021

    Through dividends and share purchases since adopting financial policy.

    U.S. costs related to labor and services
    40%
    Current

    Portion of overall U.S. costs not subject to tariffs.

    Estimated impact of tariffs on purchased inputs
    5%
    Current

    Potential impact on non-labor/services costs.

    Chinese tariff on purchased components
    145%
    Current

    Biggest driver of the potential tariff impact on purchased inputs.

    Diesel purchased
    100 million
    Annual

    Amount of diesel purchased in the U.S.

    Industry KPIs

    6
    MetricValueDetails
    Unit cash cost$1.50 per poundUSD
    By product credits$0.47 per poundUSD
    Reserve life new supply
    Growth project CAPEX first production
    Ore grade recovery drilling by deposit
    Production sales volume by metal and by mine1.6 billion pounds copper, 1.6 million ounces gold

    Deals & partnerships

    1
    CODELCOMajor expansion at El Abra through the addition of a new concentrator

    Freeport and CODELCO are planning a major expansion at El Abra. A permit application is in process and expected to be filed by the end of this year.

    Capital programs

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    Bagdad autonomous haul truck conversionunderway$80 million
    Spent to date: 12 of 33 trucks converted

    Benefit: Improved efficiency, reduced reliance on contractors

    Capital cost to convert existing trucks. Expected to have the balance in service over the next several months.

    Kucing Liar developmentunderway
    Period spend: Roughly 50% of discretionary capex

    Expected to commence production by the end of this decade. Accounts for roughly 50% of the $1.6B-$1.7B discretionary capex in 2025 and 2026.

    LNG project at Grasbergunderway
    Period spend: Roughly 50% of discretionary capex

    Accounts for roughly 50% of the $1.6B-$1.7B discretionary capex in 2025 and 2026.

    Atlantic Copper CirCular Projectunderway

    Expected to be completed in the first half of 2026.

    El Abra expansion (new concentrator)underway

    Benefit: 750 million pounds of incremental copper per annum

    Major project in partnership with CODELCO. Permit application expected to be filed by the end of this year.

    Risks & headwinds

    4
    Gold shipments impacted by timingQ1 FY25

    Gold sales expected to average nearly 4x Q1 rates in balance of year.

    Mitigation: Timing issue, expected to resolve in subsequent quarters.

    Operating rates in Indonesia impacted by SAG mill maintenanceQ1 FY25

    25% reduction in mill rates during Q1.

    Mitigation: Maintenance work timed with export permit extension; strong production expected in balance of year; smelter repairs ahead of schedule.

    Potential impact of tariffs on purchased inputsCurrent

    Estimated 5% increase on ~60% of U.S. cost base, driven by 145% Chinese tariff.

    Mitigation: Working with suppliers, diversifying supply chains, advocating for 45X credits.

    Market volatility and macro sentiment impacting short-term copper pricingShort-term

    Copper prices traded between $3.94/lb and $4.53/lb on LME, reached $5.22/lb on COMEX in March.

    Mitigation: Focus on long-term value, strong market fundamentals, tight market expected.

    What to watch in Q2 FY25

    5

    PTFI Smelter Ramp-up

    Next 6 months (starting May)
    CurrentRepairs tracking ahead of plan, startup by end of May.
    TargetRamp up to 100% capacity over 6 months.

    Why it matters

    Successful ramp-up is key for Indonesian operating rights extension and future production, impacting overall company volumes and costs.

    The team has expedited the repair process and set us up for start-up by the end of May. That's about 1 month sooner than the earlier schedule.

    Q&A highlights

    6

    What are the expected cost reductions or efficiency gains from the Bagdad autonomous haulage system once fully implemented?

    The autonomous haulage system at Bagdad will reduce the need for new hires for expansion and ensure consistent, safe results. The capital cost for converting the trucks is approximately $80 million, with an attractive rate of return. This project is strategic for potential adoption at other U.S. sites and contributes to the U.S. unit cost target of $2.50 per pound by 2027, down from current levels around $3 per pound.

    So the project itself has an attractive rate of return on its face. The capital costs that we're incurring for that project, and we've got some details in the back reference materials, but the capital cost itself is to convert these all trucks is in the $80 million range, and the project itself will produce a good rate of return and allow us, again, leverage to expand that operation in the future.

    asked by Carlos De Alba · answered by Kathleen Quirk

    2 min read6 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

    01

    Indonesia Operations & Smelter Progress

    PTFI celebrated its 58th anniversary, with the precious metals refinery inaugurated in March and ramping up to full capacity. The smelter repair is ahead of schedule, targeting an end-of-May startup, which is crucial for advancing approval for the extension of operating rights beyond 2041. Despite Q1 operating rates being impacted by SAG mill maintenance, strong production is expected for the balance of the year, with 2025 annual sales projected at 1.6 billion pounds of copper and 1.6 million ounces of gold, yielding a net cash credit of $0.47 per pound.

    02

    U.S. Copper Market & Tariffs

    The U.S. government's recognition of copper as a critical material and potential tariffs on imports have led to a significant premium on COMEX pricing, currently 13% above LME, equating to approximately $0.57 per pound. This implies an approximate $800 million annual financial benefit for Freeport's U.S. copper sales. Freeport, as America's largest copper producer, supplies 70% of domestically sourced refined copper and is well-positioned for brownfield growth, leveraging existing infrastructure and workforce.

    03

    Leach Innovation & Growth

    Freeport is aggressively scaling its low-cost leach innovation projects in the U.S., targeting a 40% increase to 300 million pounds per annum by year-end 2025, with an ultimate goal of 800 million pounds per annum. This involves existing technologies like 'leach everywhere' (using helicopters for irrigation lines) and deep raffinate drilling. The company is also exploring new additives and heat trials, including geothermal steam at Morenci, to further enhance recovery from its 40 billion pounds of copper in stockpiles.

    04

    Organic Growth Pipeline

    The company has an extensive brownfield growth pipeline totaling 2.5 billion pounds of copper per annum from known resources in established jurisdictions. Key projects include the Bagdad expansion and potential expansion in the Safford/Lone Star District in the U.S., a major expansion at El Abra in South America (adding 750 million pounds incremental copper per annum) in partnership with CODELCO, and the Kucing Liar development in Indonesia, expected to commence production by 2030.

    05

    Cost Management & Efficiency

    Freeport is focused on aggressive cost management, particularly in the U.S., targeting unit costs to trend lower each year over the next three years to an average of $2.50 per pound by 2027, down from current ~$3 per pound. Initiatives include improved workforce retention, reduced reliance on more expensive contractors (Morenci contractor hours down ~20%), and the ongoing autonomous haul truck conversion at Bagdad, with 12 of 33 trucks already in service.

    06

    Capital Allocation & Shareholder Returns

    The company maintains a solid balance sheet with investment-grade ratings and a financial policy to return 50% of excess cash flow to shareholders. Year-to-date, $80 million has been used for share repurchases (2.3 million shares), contributing to $5 billion distributed since 2021. Management expressed strong alignment with increasing buybacks, especially given the strong free cash flow outlook and perceived undervaluation of the stock, while balancing growth investments.

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