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    Earnings call· Jun 2025(Q2 FY25)

    INTUITIVE SURGICAL Q2 FY25 earnings call ISRG

    Jul 22, 2025 Source

    Executive summary

    Intuitive Surgical Q2 FY25 — Strong Procedure Growth and da Vinci 5 Launch Momentum

    Intuitive Surgical delivered strong Q2 FY25 results, driven by robust procedure growth across its da Vinci, SP, and Ion platforms and the broad U.S. launch of da Vinci 5. While international capital placements faced headwinds from government budget constraints and trade uncertainties, the company is focused on expanding its global footprint and leveraging its new platforms. Management emphasized continued innovation, capacity building, and digital ecosystem enhancements to support long-term growth and address evolving healthcare needs.

    Highlights

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    • da Vinci procedure growth of 17% year-over-year.

    • Total revenue grew 21% to $2.44 billion.

    • Installed base of da Vinci systems increased 14% to almost 10,500 globally.

    • SP procedure growth was strong at 88% year-over-year.

    • Ion procedures grew 52% to approximately 35,000 in the quarter.

    Concerns

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    • OUS capital placements declined in Japan, China, and Europe due to government budget challenges and trade uncertainties.

    • Pro forma gross margin decreased to 67.9% from 70% year-over-year, impacted by higher facilities costs, mix shift to lower-margin products (Ion, dV5), and increased service costs for dV5.

    • Tariff impact of approximately 60 basis points on gross margin in Q2, with an estimated full-year impact of 100 basis points.

    • Potential impacts of fiscal policy to Medicaid recipients in the U.S. creating incremental financial challenges for hospitals.

    Guidance & targets

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    CategoryTargetConfidence
    da Vinci procedure growth
    15.5% to 17%
    high materiality
    High
    Pro forma gross profit margin
    66% to 67%
    high materiality
    High
    Pro forma operating expense growth
    10% to 14%
    medium materiality
    High
    Noncash stock compensation expense
    $770 million to $790 million
    medium materiality
    High
    Other income
    $370 million to $390 million
    medium materiality
    High
    Capital expenditures
    $650 million to $725 million
    medium materiality
    High
    Pro forma income tax rate
    22% to 23%
    medium materiality
    High

    Operational metrics

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    da Vinci procedures growth
    17%YoY
    Q2 FY25
    Total procedure growth (da Vinci and Ion)
    18%YoY
    Q2 FY25
    Installed base of da Vinci systems
    10,50014% increase
    Q2 FY25
    Average system utilization (da Vinci multiport)
    2%YoY growth
    Q2 FY25
    SP procedure growth
    88%YoY
    Q2 FY25
    Ion procedure growth
    52%YoY
    Q2 FY25
    Ion procedures
    35,000
    Q2 FY25
    Installed base of Ion systems
    905
    Q2 FY25
    Revenue growth
    21%YoY
    Q2 FY25
    Revenue growth (constant currency)
    21%YoY
    Q2 FY25
    Systems revenue growth
    28%YoY
    Q2 FY25
    Recurring revenue growth
    21%YoY
    Q2 FY25
    Recurring revenue as % of total revenue
    85%
    Q2 FY25
    Leasing as % of Q2 placements
    49%lower than 54% last year
    Q2 FY25
    Pro forma gross margin
    67.9%down from 70% in Q2 of last year
    Q2 FY25
    Pro forma operating expenses growth
    9%YoY
    Q2 FY25
    Employees added
    300
    Q2 FY25
    Pro forma other income
    $93 millionup from $91 million in the prior quarter
    Q2 FY25
    Pro forma effective tax rate
    22.7%
    Q2 FY25

    In line with expectations.

    Cash and investments balance
    $9.5 billionup from $9.1 billion last quarter
    Q2 FY25

    Sequential increase driven by operating cash flow, partially offset by stock repurchases and capital expenditures.

    Stock repurchases
    $181 million
    Q2 FY25
    Capital expenditures
    $155 million
    Q2 FY25
    da Vinci procedures growth
    14%YoY
    Q2 FY25
    da Vinci procedures growth
    23%YoY
    Q2 FY25
    SP procedure growth
    112%YoY
    Q2 FY25

    Partly reflected a weaker comparison period given the impact of physician strikes last year.

    da Vinci 5 installed base
    689
    Q2 FY25
    Trade-in transactions
    83up from 21 a year ago
    Q2 FY25
    da Vinci system placements
    216up from 149 last year
    Q2 FY25
    da Vinci system placements
    179compared to 192 last year
    Q2 FY25
    da Vinci system placements
    73
    Q2 FY25
    da Vinci system placements
    15
    Q2 FY25
    da Vinci system placements
    13
    Q2 FY25
    da Vinci system placements
    79compared to 70 systems last year
    Q2 FY25

    Recent strength driven by growth in Brazil, Eastern Europe and Southeast Asia.

    SP system placements
    6
    Q2 FY25
    SP system placements
    6
    Q2 FY25
    SP system placements
    5
    Q2 FY25
    Ion system placements
    7
    Q2 FY25
    Pro forma net income
    $798 millioncompared with $641 million last year
    Q2 FY25
    Pro forma earnings per share
    $2.1923% increased YoY
    Q2 FY25
    GAAP net income
    $658 millioncompared to $527 million last year
    Q2 FY25
    GAAP earnings per share
    $1.81compared to $1.46 last year
    Q2 FY25

    Industry KPIs

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    MetricValueDetails
    Tariff impact60bps
    System utilization2%%
    Pricing realized price$1.5 millionUSD
    New product launch ramp100,000procedures
    Procedure volume growth17%%
    FCF conversion leverage guidance15.5-17%%
    Installed base system placements395systems
    Segment franchise organic growth17%%
    Consumables recurring revenue mix85%%
    Sales force commercial capacity build300employees

    Product announcements

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    ProductTypeDetails
    Vessel Sealer Curvedlaunch
    Tracheal Bronchoplastymilestone
    SP 50-use endoscopemilestone
    SP transanal local excision and resectionmilestone

    Risks & headwinds

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    Macro challenges in certain international marketsQ2 FY25 and ongoing

    Impacted capital placements in Japan, China, and Europe

    Mitigation: Refining leasing models, leveraging trade-ins to make older systems available for OUS customers, measured rollout of da Vinci 5.

    Government budget challenges and trade uncertaintiesQ2 FY25 and ongoing

    Impacted OUS capital performance, specifically in Japan, China, and Europe.

    Mitigation: Refining leasing models to localize them, focusing on increasing utilization in OUS markets, offering XIR to cost-sensitive OUS customers.

    Fiscal policy impacts to Medicaid recipients in U.S.Ongoing

    Uncertainty remains about whether some patients may lose coverage, how that plays through health systems, and what the ultimate impact might be. Could create incremental financial challenges for hospitals.

    Mitigation: Engaging with customers through hospital analytics to demonstrate da Vinci's clinical and economic advantages (e.g., lower length of stay, reduced complications).

    Tariff impact on gross marginQ2 FY25 and full-year FY25

    60 basis points impact in Q2 FY25; estimated 100 basis points (+/- 20 bps) for full-year FY25.

    Mitigation: Monitoring the dynamic trade environment; assumes specific tariff rates for imports from China, U.S., and other countries.

    Constrained and competitive capital environment in ChinaQ2 FY25 and ongoing

    Slightly exceeded global average procedure growth, but continues to reflect impact of constrained and competitive capital environment.

    Mitigation: Focus on supporting customer adoption and leveraging tools and resources to increase utilization.

    Bariatric procedure declineQ2 FY25 and ongoing

    Continuing to decline at rates similar to recent trends, contributing to downward pressure on I&A per procedure.

    Mitigation: Focus on other procedure growth areas (e.g., benign general surgery, colorectal, thoracic, kidney, HPB).

    Force Feedback instrument supply constraintThrough Q1 FY26

    Supply expected to be constrained.

    Mitigation: Working to build capacity and deliver for customers.

    European da Vinci 5 launch limitationsThrough end of FY26

    Force Feedback instruments for Europe not yet cleared, not expected before end of next year.

    Mitigation: Measured rollout, building training pathways and postering capabilities; some customers may wait for full capability.

    What to watch in Q3 FY25

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    da Vinci 5 OUS placements and adoption

    Next quarter (Q3 FY25)
    CurrentMeasured launch in Europe and Japan started Q2 FY25
    TargetProgress in building training pathways, postering capabilities, and customer engagement for da Vinci 5 in Europe and Japan.

    Why it matters

    Indicates successful international expansion and adoption of the newest platform, crucial for long-term growth.

    Commercialization in Europe and Japan will be measured as we work through additional clearances to fully enable the da Vinci 5 ecosystem.

    Q&A highlights

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    What drove the strong margin performance in Q2, and is it sustainable?

    Jamie Samath attributed the strong Q2 margins to 21% revenue growth, a higher purchase mix of systems, and slightly lower operating expense growth of 9%. He cautioned that this is not necessarily a 'new normal' due to the variability of purchase mix and spending.

    I would not characterize that as the new normal because obviously, you've got some benefit from, again, the purchase mix and spending just growing 9%.

    asked by Travis Steed · answered by Jamie Samath

    2 min read7 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

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    CEO Transition and Vision

    Dave Rosa assumed the role of CEO, acknowledging Gary Guthart's 30-year contributions to Intuitive Surgical. Rosa expressed gratitude for the strong foundation built, which includes over 11,000 robotic systems across 74 countries and more than 17 million procedures performed. He affirmed the company's commitment to advancing the Quintuple Aim and delivering value to stakeholders under his leadership.

    02

    da Vinci 5 Launch and International Expansion

    The da Vinci 5 platform is now in broad U.S. launch, having already facilitated over 100,000 procedures. The system also secured clearances in Europe and Japan, where the company plans measured launches. This strategic expansion aims to fully enable the da Vinci 5 ecosystem in these key international markets, focusing on building necessary infrastructure and training pathways.

    03

    Product Portfolio Enhancements and Regulatory Milestones

    Intuitive expanded its advanced energy instrument portfolio with 510(k) clearance for Vessel Sealer Curved, designed for enhanced precision in narrow anatomical spaces. Additionally, a procedure clearance was obtained for tracheal bronchoplasty. The SP team achieved milestones including clearance for a 50-use endoscope and 510(k) clearance for transanal local excision and resection, broadening its procedural suite.

    04

    Digital Ecosystem and Telesurgery Advancements

    The company is enhancing its digital ecosystem with Intuitive Telepresence and new hub software, enabling on-demand scheduling and peer connectivity. A telesurgery demonstration using da Vinci 5, including force feedback, was successfully conducted between Atlanta and Strasberg. While recognizing the significant long-term potential of telesurgery, management highlighted the need for robust cybersecurity, new hospital workflows, and revised medical/legal policies for safe adoption.

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    International Market Dynamics and Headwinds

    While U.S. capital placements showed strength, international markets, particularly Japan, China, and Europe, experienced headwinds due to government budget challenges and trade uncertainties. Despite these pressures, India, Korea, and distributor markets demonstrated robust procedure growth. The company is refining leasing models and leveraging trade-ins to address OUS customer needs and expand utilization.

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    Instrument Reprocessing and Innovation Strategy

    Management addressed third-party instrument reprocessing, emphasizing that hospitals' value committees evaluate such offerings based on safety, reliability, performance, and supply continuity versus cost savings. Intuitive reiterated its commitment to continuous innovation in its instrument portfolio, including extended-use instrumentation and force feedback, to ensure high quality, safety, and best-in-class performance for customers.

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    Medicaid Policy and Hospital Financial Challenges

    The company acknowledged the potential impact of U.S. fiscal policy changes on Medicaid recipients, which could lead to lower hospital admissions and reimbursement, creating financial challenges. Intuitive believes its ability to demonstrate clinical and economic advantages through data analytics positions it strongly, particularly given its currently lower penetration among Medicaid patients.

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