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    Earnings call· Mar 2025(Q2 FY25)

    Johnson Controls International Q2 FY25 earnings call JCI

    May 7, 2025 Source

    Executive summary

    Johnson Controls Q2 FY25 — Strong Performance and Raised Full-Year Guidance

    Johnson Controls delivered a strong second quarter, driven by robust organic sales growth and significant margin expansion, leading to a raised full-year outlook. The new CEO, Joakim Weidemanis, outlined initial priorities focused on customer-centricity, operational execution through Lean principles, and a strategic portfolio review. The company is navigating geopolitical complexities and tariffs with proactive mitigation strategies, while leveraging its long-cycle business and resilient service mix.

    Highlights

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    • Organic sales grew 7% in Q2 FY25.

    • Segment margins expanded 180 basis points to 16.7% in Q2 FY25.

    • Adjusted EPS increased 19% to $0.82 in Q2 FY25, exceeding guidance.

    • Orders were up 5% in Q2 FY25, led by applied and service businesses.

    • Record backlog grew 12% to $14 billion in Q2 FY25.

    Concerns

    2

    • North America Building Solutions adjusted margin declined 20 basis points to 13.4% due to Systems growth outpacing Service growth.

    • Tariff exposure before mitigating actions is approximately 2% of sales or 3% of cost of goods sold annually.

    Guidance & targets

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    CategoryTargetConfidence
    Q3 FY25 Organic Sales Growth
    mid-single digits
    medium materiality
    High
    Q3 FY25 Adjusted Segment EBITA Margin
    approximately 17.5%
    medium materiality
    High
    Q3 FY25 Adjusted EPS
    $0.97 to $1.00
    high materiality
    High
    Full-Year FY25 Organic Sales Growth
    mid-single digit
    high materiality
    High
    Full-Year FY25 Adjusted Segment EBITA Margin Expansion
    roughly 90 basis points
    high materiality
    High
    Full-Year FY25 Adjusted EPS
    approximate $3.60 per share
    high materiality
    High
    Full-Year FY25 Free Cash Flow Conversion
    approximately 100%
    high materiality
    High
    Return of Free Cash Flow to Shareholders
    100% of our free cash flow
    medium materiality
    High

    Segment performance

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    SegmentRevenueYoYQoQMargin
    Building Solutions
    Organic sales grew 7% with solid high single-digit growth in both Systems and Service. Backlog grew 12% to $14 billion.
    		—7%——
    Building Solutions North America
    Organic sales were up 7% with continued strength in both HVAC and controls. Adjusted margin declined 20 basis points as Systems growth outpaced Service growth.
    Orders growth: 4%Systems orders growth: mid-single-digitService orders growth: mid-single-digit
    		—7%—13.4%
    Building Solutions EMEALA
    Organic sales grew 5%, led by Service growth. Adjusted segment EBITA margin expanded 410 basis points driven by improved productivity and positive Service mix.
    Orders growth: 10%Service orders growth: 13%Systems orders growth: 8%Service sales growth: 9%
    		—5%—12.5%
    Building Solutions Asia Pacific
    Organic sales grew 13% with strong double-digit growth in both Systems and Service. Adjusted margin expanded 360 basis points due to productivity and mix improvements. Orders were flat as the company prioritizes profitable system projects in China.
    Orders growth: flatService orders growth: nearly 20%
    		—13%—14.6%
    Global Products
    Organic sales grew 8% with positive price and 6 points of volume growth. Adjusted segment EBITA margin expanded 600 basis points due to improved operational efficiencies. Applied HVAC grew more than 20%.
    Volume growth: 6 points
    		—8%—30.3%

    Operational metrics

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    Adjusted EPS
    $0.82up 19% YoY
    Q2 FY25

    Exceeded the high end of guidance range.

    Available Cash
    $800M
    Q2 FY25 end

    Cash balance at the end of the quarter.

    Net Debt to EBITA
    2.4xdecreased
    Q2 FY25 end

    Within the long-term target range of 2x to 2.5x.

    Tariff Exposure
    2%
    Annualized

    Annualized exposure before mitigating actions, based on current regulatory environment.

    Field Employees
    40,000
    Current

    Dedicated and customer-oriented employees in the field, a true differentiator.

    Patents
    nearly 8,000
    Current

    Reflects technological capabilities and product domains.

    Applied HVAC Growth
    more than 20%
    Q2 FY25

    Strong performance within the Global Products segment.

    Industry KPIs

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    MetricValueDetails
    Price costpositive
    Order backlog$14BUSD
    Book to bill ratio—
    Data center hvac exposuremore than 20%%
    Organic operating leverage—
    Service aftermarket attachhealthy
    Order lead times placement horizon—
    Orders bookings growth by vertical5%%

    Orderbook & backlog

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    Total Backlog$14BQ2 FY25 end

    up 12% YoY

    Building Solutions Systems BacklogN/AQ2 FY25 end

    up 12% YoY

    Building Solutions Service BacklogN/AQ2 FY25 end

    up 9% YoY

    Deals & partnerships

    1
    N/APending sale of Residential and Light Commercial HVAC business.

    The pending sale of the Residential and Light Commercial HVAC business is part of the company's ongoing portfolio evolution.

    Risks & headwinds

    2
    Geopolitical Environment and TariffsOngoing

    Annualized exposure of ~2% of sales or ~3% of cost of goods sold before mitigation.

    Mitigation: Strengthening 'in region, for region' manufacturing, dynamically transforming supply chain to local sourcing, accelerating pricing actions, asserting contractual rights to change orders.

    Macro UncertaintyNear-term

    High level of macro uncertainty remains.

    Mitigation: Built in some perspective on potential impacts to end markets and verticals into guidance, particularly for shorter-cycle businesses (approx. 25% of company).

    What to watch in Q3 FY25

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    CEO's Strategic Portfolio Review

    Later point in time
    Current8 weeks into role, taking fresh look at strategy and portfolio.
    TargetFurther details on strategic direction and capital allocation.

    Why it matters

    The outcome of this review will shape the company's future growth drivers, capital allocation, and potential M&A strategy, directly impacting long-term shareholder value.

    So I think the work I'm doing on the strategy together with the team here is going to help us answer that question. Now I do think that there are opportunities with some of our franchises to continue to differentiate with a technology angle.

    Q&A highlights

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    How will Lean be deployed in a large organization like JCI, and how ready is the organization for it?

    Lean will be deployed by picking specific value streams and taking an end-to-end approach, starting with the customer. While the foundation for Lean is not very strong, there are remnants from past automotive connections, and an open-mindedness exists. The CEO is excited about the tremendous opportunities for applying Lean execution fundamentals, including SKU rationalization.

    “No. You do it together. So as you're taking it on, the value stream, I mean that's -- you will discover as you go map the challenges that you have in that value stream, fairly early in my experience, you'll find those kinds of complexities.”

    asked by Scott Davis · answered by Joakim Weidemanis

    2 min read6 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

    01

    New CEO's Initial Impressions and Strategic Focus

    Joakim Weidemanis, two months into his CEO role, shared initial observations highlighting Johnson Controls' strengths in market-leading franchises (York HVAC, Metasys), talent (40,000 field employees), and technological capabilities (8,000 patents). He sees significant potential to unlock value by enhancing customer focus, improving operational execution, and accelerating innovation. His approach involves spending time at 'Gemba' (front line) to understand customer needs, markets, and internal capabilities.

    02

    Organizational Model Evolution and Benefits

    The company has evolved its operating model into three geographical, customer-oriented reporting segments supported by two global functional centers of excellence: Products and Solutions, and Commercial and Field Operations. This reorganization aims to improve customer intimacy, market reach, and profitable growth by clarifying roles and responsibilities, fostering agility, and accelerating execution. The goal is to build a faster-growing, more profitable, and predictable company.

    03

    Lean Implementation for Operational Excellence

    A key priority for the new CEO is implementing Lean and business system approaches to address complexities in product offerings, SKUs, and operating methods. Lean will be applied across the organization, not just manufacturing, to eliminate waste, build capabilities, and improve speed. Initial efforts will focus on specific value streams, with early indications of opportunities for both cost reduction and capital efficiency, alongside leveraging existing resources.

    04

    Data Center Business Strength and Differentiation

    The data center business continues to exhibit very healthy demand, particularly in North America and Asia Pacific. Johnson Controls maintains a strong position due to its differentiated high-performance York Chiller platform, known for efficiency and wide operating range. The company collaborates closely with major customers on data center architecture and leverages its global service capabilities, which are critical for mission-critical applications. Investments are ongoing in manufacturing and specialized field competencies for this vertical.

    05

    Strategy for Installation Business

    The company is undertaking a strategic review of its installation business, analyzing hundreds of projects to determine the optimal degree of installation involvement. This analysis considers competitive positioning, financial performance, and the linkage to service contract attachment rates. The aim is to gain clarity on where installation makes competitive and financial sense, and where it does not, to simplify offerings and improve execution over the life cycle.

    06

    Tariff Mitigation Strategies

    Johnson Controls is actively mitigating tariff impact🌐s through several levers. These include strengthening its 'in region, for region' manufacturing strategy, dynamically transforming the supply chain to local sourcing, accelerating pricing actions, and asserting contractual rights for change orders. The company aims to recover tariff costs without applying margin, maintaining a fair balance with customers while navigating geopolitical complexities.

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