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    JCI
    Earnings call· Dec 2024(Q1 FY25)

    Johnson Controls International plc JCI

    Feb 5, 2025 Source

    Executive summary

    Johnson Controls Q1 FY25 — Strong Start with Raised Guidance and CEO Transition

    Johnson Controls reported a strong start to FY25, driven by robust organic revenue growth and significant margin expansion across all businesses, leading to raised full-year guidance for margin and adjusted EPS. The company also announced a CEO transition, with Joakim Weidemanis succeeding George Oliver in March, signaling a continued focus on operational excellence and strategic growth. Despite some short-term productivity impacts from investments and tariff uncertainties, the company's record backlog and focus on high-growth verticals like data centers position it for sustained performance.

    Highlights

    5

    • Organic revenue grew 10% in Q1 FY25.

    • Adjusted EPS increased nearly 40% year-over-year to $0.64, exceeding guidance by $0.04.

    • Segment margin expanded a robust 200 basis points to 15%.

    • Orders grew 16% in the quarter, with double-digit growth in both Systems and Service.

    • Building Solutions backlog reached a record $13.2 billion, up 11% year-over-year.

    Concerns

    3

    • North America Building Solutions experienced a negative $20 million productivity drag in the quarter due to investments in resources.

    • Uncertainty around tariffs creates muted predictability for margin expansion in the second half of FY25.

    • Core real estate (offices, mixed buildings) is not growing at the pace of other verticals.

    Guidance & targets

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    CategoryTargetConfidence
    Q2 FY25 Organic Sales Growth
    mid-single digit
    medium materiality
    High
    Q2 FY25 Adjusted EBITDA Margin Expansion
    150 basis points to approximately 16.5%
    medium materiality
    High
    Q2 FY25 Adjusted EPS
    $0.77 to $0.79
    high materiality
    High
    Full Year FY25 Organic Sales Growth
    mid-single digits
    high materiality
    High
    Full Year FY25 Adjusted Segment EBITDA Margin Expansion
    over 80 basis points
    high materiality
    High
    Full Year FY25 Adjusted EPS
    $3.50 to $3.60 per share
    high materiality
    High
    Full Year FY25 Free Cash Flow Conversion
    90% or greater
    high materiality
    High
    Capital Return to Shareholders
    100% of free cash flow
    high materiality
    High

    Segment performance

    5
    SegmentRevenueYoYQoQMargin
    Global Products
    Strong start to the year with organic sales growth driven by positive price and significant volume growth. Adjusted segment EBITDA margin expanded impressively due to enhanced operational efficiencies. Applied HVAC showed strong double-digit growth across North America and EMEA/LA.
    Applied HVAC Growth: >30%North America Applied HVAC Growth: strong double-digitEMEA/LA Applied HVAC Growth: strong double-digitVolume Growth: 11 points
    		—15%—30.1%
    Building Solutions - Overall
    Delivered a strong quarter with consistent performance across all regions. Orders and organic sales showed robust growth in both Systems and Service. Margin improvement was noted due to strategically building backlog with higher-margin system jobs and a long service tail.
    Orders Growth: 16%Systems Orders Growth: double-digitService Orders Growth: double-digitService Sales Growth: 10%Systems Sales Growth: 8%
    		—8%——
    Building Solutions - North America
    Strong organic sales growth, particularly in HVAC and Controls. Orders were up significantly, led by Systems, driven by demand from data centers, healthcare, and manufacturing. Adjusted margin expanded due to execution of higher-margin backlog, despite a short-term productivity drag from investments.
    Orders Growth: 18%Systems Orders Growth: >20%
    		—10%—12.1%
    Building Solutions - EMEA/LA
    Solid organic sales growth across Controls, Fire, Security, and Industrial Refrigeration. Adjusted segment EBITDA margin expanded significantly, driven by improved productivity and a positive mix from service growth. Orders also showed growth, led by Service.
    Orders Growth: 6%Service Orders Growth: 9%System Orders Growth: 4%
    		—6%—10.1%
    Building Solutions - Asia Pacific
    Progress continued with strong order growth, particularly in Systems, following year-long efforts to rebuild the pipeline. Organic sales grew, led by strong double-digit growth in the resilient service business. Adjusted margin expanded due to positive mix from the service business.
    Orders Growth: 32%Systems Orders Growth: 40%Service Orders Growth: low teensService Sales Growth: strong double-digit
    		—5%—9.3%

    Operational metrics

    10
    Adjusted EPS
    $0.64up nearly 40% YoY
    Q1 FY25

    Adjusted EPS for the first fiscal quarter, exceeding guidance.

    Available Cash
    $1.2B
    Q1 FY25

    Cash balance at the end of the first fiscal quarter.

    Net Debt to EBITDA
    2.3x
    Q1 FY25

    Net debt leverage ratio, within the long-term target range.

    Cash Restructuring Payments
    $200M-$250M
    FY25

    Expected cash restructuring payments included in the full-year free cash flow conversion target.

    Service Attachment Rate
    low 40s to high 40s
    current

    Current service attachment rate across business lines, with higher rates in best-performing businesses and a long-term target for improvement.

    Applied HVAC Capacity Utilization
    close to capacity
    current

    North America Applied HVAC is operating near full capacity due to strong backlog.

    Applied HVAC Capacity Utilization
    at capacity
    current

    EMEA/LA Applied HVAC is operating at full capacity, requiring future expansion.

    Applied HVAC Capacity Utilization
    quite a bit of capacity
    current

    Asia Pacific factories have significant unused capacity as the market has not fully rebounded.

    North America Building Solutions Productivity
    -$20M
    Q1 FY25

    Short-term negative productivity impact due to onboarding new hires to fuel growth.

    Corporate Cost Reduction
    significant step down
    H2 FY25 and beyond

    Expectation of material reduction in corporate costs, especially in FY26, as restructuring activities are fully enacted.

    Industry KPIs

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    MetricValueDetails
    Price costpositive
    Order backlog$13.2BUSD
    Book to bill ratio—
    Data center hvac exposureaccelerating
    Organic operating leverage—
    Service aftermarket attachlow 40s to high 40s%
    Order lead times placement horizonlonger
    Orders bookings growth by vertical16%%

    Orderbook & backlog

    3
    Building Solutions Total Backlog$13.2BQ1 FY25

    up 11% YoY

    Provides visibility into future revenue and enables consistent financial results.

    Building Solutions Service Backlog8% growthQ1 FY25

    YoY

    Building Solutions System Backlog12% growthQ1 FY25

    YoY

    Deals & partnerships

    2
    Joakim WeidemanisCEO succession

    Joakim Weidemanis will succeed George Oliver as CEO. Oliver will remain on the Board until August 1 and as an advisor until December. Weidemanis comes from Danaher with extensive experience in scaling global companies and leading service-oriented businesses.

    Residential and Light Commercial businessDivestiture of non-core business

    The divestiture of the Residential and Light Commercial business is expected to be completed by the end of the fiscal year, moving the company closer to a pure-play building solutions provider. Proceeds will be returned to shareholders via share repurchases.

    Risks & headwinds

    3
    Tariff UncertaintyH2 FY25

    Muted predictability for margin expansion in H2 FY25

    Mitigation: Evolved manufacturing strategy ('in-region for region'), contractual abilities to pass on price in backlog, supply chain network adjustments, strong customer partnerships for negotiation.

    Core Real Estate Market Growthongoing

    Not growing at the pace of other verticals

    Mitigation: Focus on high-growth verticals (data centers, healthcare, manufacturing) where solutions are well-suited.

    Foreign Exchange PressureQ1 FY25

    $0.05 pressure on EPS

    Mitigation: Not explicitly stated, but generally managed through hedging and regional operations.

    What to watch in Q2 FY25

    5

    Tariff Impact on Margins

    next quarter / H2 FY25
    CurrentMuted predictability for H2 FY25
    TargetClarity on impact and successful price pass-through

    Why it matters

    Tariffs could impact profitability and the company's ability to maintain margin expansion targets.

    And the second thing I'd tell you is we really need to have a little bit more clarity around tariff and what it will do and how we will be able to pass on that price to the customer? And can we drive also margin on that price ultimately?

    Q&A highlights

    6

    What mandate is being given to the incoming CEO, Joakim Weidemanis? Is he coming in with a free hand or specific guardrails?

    George Oliver stated that Joakim's appointment followed a rigorous succession process. He highlighted Weidemanis's background in scaling global companies, leading service-oriented businesses, and leveraging technology, which aligns with Johnson Controls' value creation journey. Oliver expressed confidence that Weidemanis will build on the existing strategy and momentum, bringing operational expertise to capitalize on growth potential.

    “I think he comes in, brings incredible operational background. And a lot of work around strategy that as we take that foundation forward, we're going to be positioned to be able to capitalize on the full growth potential of the company.”

    asked by Nigel Coe · answered by George Oliver

    3 min read7 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

    01

    CEO Transition and Strategic Direction

    Johnson Controls announced the appointment of Joakim Weidemanis as the new CEO, effective March 12, 2025, succeeding George Oliver. Oliver will remain on the Board until August 1 and as an advisor until December. The transition follows a rigorous succession planning process, with Weidemanis bringing extensive experience in scaling global companies, leading service-oriented businesses, and leveraging technology. The company's strategy remains focused on being a pure-play building solutions provider, leveraging technology, digital platforms, and services, with approximately 10% of the portfolio still considered non-core to commercial building solutions.

    02

    Strong Q1 Performance and Operational Excellence

    The company reported a strong start to fiscal 2025, with 10% organic revenue growth and a 200 basis point expansion in segment margin to 15%. Adjusted EPS increased nearly 40% year-over-year to $0.64, exceeding guidance. This performance is attributed to transformation efforts, strategic initiatives, and a focus on operational excellence, driving increased demand for core systems and service offerings. The company emphasizes its ability to deliver consistent, predictable results.

    03

    Data Center Leadership and Vertical Growth

    Johnson Controls continues to build momentum as a leading solutions provider to data centers, identified as one of its fastest-growing verticals. The company was named the #1 implementer among data center thermal management providers and a top innovator. Beyond data centers, the company is driving mission-critical solutions in healthcare (aging infrastructure, sustainability targets) and pharmaceutical manufacturing (clean rooms, precise environmental control), leveraging advanced HVAC, fire protection, and the OpenBlue platform.

    04

    Service Business and AI Integration

    The services business, supported by long contractual engagements and a global network of over 20,000 technicians, is a key differentiator. AI is leveraged for remote monitoring, proactive repair recommendations, and enhancing technician utilization and efficiency. OpenBlue, the company's digital platform, now uses generative AI to explain equipment faults, analyze energy/carbon emissions, and evaluate compliance with local regulations, helping customers plan capital improvement projects.

    05

    Backlog and Order Momentum

    Order momentum remained solid with 16% growth in the quarter, driven by double-digit growth in both Systems and Service. Building Solutions backlog reached a record $13.2 billion, growing 11% year-over-year, with Service backlog up 8% and System backlog up 12%. This record backlog provides strong visibility into future revenue and enables strategic planning, ensuring continued growth and predictable financial results.

    06

    Working Capital and Free Cash Flow Improvement

    Adjusted free cash flow improved by nearly $800 million year-over-year to approximately $600 million, demonstrating significant improvements in working capital fundamentals. The company attributes this to enhanced efficiency, reduced costs, and improved customer satisfaction. For the full year, the company now anticipates achieving a free cash flow conversion of 90% or greater, including $200 million to $250 million in cash restructuring payments.

    07

    Tariff Impact and Mitigation

    The company acknowledges the potential impact of tariffs, which are reflected in the raised full-year guidance. Management noted that the tariff landscape is fluid, creating some uncertainty for second-half margin predictability. Mitigation strategies include evolving manufacturing to 'in-region for region,' contractual abilities to pass on price for a large portion of the backlog, and supply chain network adjustments to minimize tariff effects.

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