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    JNJ
    Earnings call· Sep 2025(Q3 FY25)

    JOHNSON & JOHNSON JNJ

    Oct 14, 2025 Source

    Executive summary

    Johnson & Johnson Q3 FY25 — Strong Growth Across Innovative Medicine and MedTech, Orthopaedics Spin-Off Announced

    Johnson & Johnson delivered a strong third quarter, demonstrating accelerated growth across its Innovative Medicine and MedTech segments, even as it navigated the STELARA loss of exclusivity. The company announced the planned separation of its Orthopaedics business, DePuy Synthes, to sharpen focus on high-growth areas like oncology, immunology, neuroscience, cardiovascular, surgery, and vision. This strategic move aims to optimize portfolio performance and drive long-term value creation for both entities.

    Highlights

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    • Operational sales grew 5.4% worldwide, despite a 640 basis point headwind from STELARA.

    • Innovative Medicine operational sales grew 5.3%, with 11 brands delivering double-digit growth, including TREMFYA at 40.1% and CARVYKTI at 81.4%.

    • MedTech operational sales accelerated to 5.6%, with Cardiovascular growing 12% and Surgical Vision growing 13.8%.

    • CARVYKTI achieved sales of $524 million, making it the most successful CAR-T launch ever, with a projected $5 billion peak year sales potential.

    • Company raised full-year 2025 operational sales guidance by $300 million, now expecting 4.8% to 5.3% growth.

    Concerns

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    • STELARA sales declined 42% due to biosimilar competition and Part D redesign, in line with expectations.

    • MedTech margin declined from 24.1% to 21%, driven by macroeconomic factors and cost of products sold.

    • Interest income and expense shifted to a net expense of $18 million, compared to $99 million income in Q3 2024, due to higher debt and lower cash balances.

    • Effective tax rate increased to 31.2% from 19.3% due to a $1 billion remeasurement of deferred tax balances from the One Big Beautiful Bill Act.

    Guidance & targets

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    CategoryTargetConfidence
    Full-year 2025 Operational Sales Growth
    4.8% to 5.3%
    high materiality
    High
    Full-year 2025 Reported Sales Growth
    5.4% to 5.9%
    high materiality
    High
    Full-year 2025 Operating Margin Improvement
    approximate 300 basis point improvement
    medium materiality
    High
    Full-year 2025 Net Interest Expense
    $0 million and $50 million
    medium materiality
    High
    Full-year 2025 Effective Tax Rate
    17.5% to 18%
    medium materiality
    High
    Full-year 2025 Adjusted EPS
    $10.80 to $10.90
    high materiality
    High
    Full-year 2025 Adjusted Operational EPS
    $10.68
    high materiality
    High
    FY26 Revenue Growth
    exceed 5%
    high materiality
    High
    FY26 Adjusted EPS
    upside of up to $0.05
    high materiality
    High
    icotrokinra Approval
    2026 approval
    medium materiality
    High
    MedTech Top Line Revenue Growth Post-Separation
    improve by at least 75 basis points
    medium materiality
    Medium
    MedTech Operating Margin Post-Separation
    improve by at least 75 basis points
    medium materiality
    Medium
    Orthopaedics Business Separation Completion
    within 18 to 24 months
    high materiality
    High
    Johnson & Johnson Dividend
    no change
    medium materiality
    High
    OTTAVA Robotic Surgical System Submission
    FDA de novo submission in early 2026
    medium materiality
    High
    THERMOCOOL SMARTTOUCH SF Catheter Regulatory Submissions
    planning regulatory submissions
    low materiality
    Medium
    Shockwave C2 Aero Coronary IVL Catheter Launch
    anticipate the launch
    low materiality
    Medium
    TECNIS PureSee Intraocular Lens Launch
    anticipate the launch in the U.S.
    low materiality
    Medium

    Segment performance

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    SegmentRevenueYoYQoQMargin
    Innovative Medicine
    Strong growth despite significant STELARA headwind, driven by key brands and new launches. Margin improved from 37.9%.
    STELARA headwind: 1,070 bpsU.S. growth: 6%Outside U.S. growth: 4.3%Acquisitions and divestitures impact: +160 bps
    $15.6B5.3%44.3%
    Oncology
    Strong growth across blood cancers and solid tumors.
    19.9%
    DARZALEX
    Driven by strong share gains and market growth. Approved in Europe for high-risk smoldering multiple myeloma.
    Market share gain: ~5.7 points across all lines of therapyFrontline setting share gain: ~9 points
    19.9%
    CARVYKTI
    Strong growth driven by share gains and site expansion, with continued sequential growth as ex-U.S. expansion progresses.
    Patients treated globally: >8,500
    $524M81.4%18.5%
    TECVAYLI and TALVEY
    Bolstered by continued expansion into the community setting.
    29.9% and 59.1% respectively
    ERLEADA
    Strong growth due to market growth and continued share gains, partially offset by Part D redesign impact.
    15.3%
    RYBREVANT plus LAZCLUZE
    Driven by continued strong launch uptake and share gains in first and second lines of therapy.
    $198M>100%
    TREMFYA
    Very strong growth driven by new indications in inflammatory bowel disease and share gains across all indications.
    New patient starts for IL-23 ulcerative colitis in U.S.: ~50% share
    40.1%
    STELARA
    Declined due to biosimilar competition and Part D redesign, in line with expectations.
    -42%
    SPRAVATO
    Impressive growth driven by continued strong demand.
    Patients treated through Q3: >180,000
    60.8%
    CAPLYTA
    Acquired in Q2, reflects healthy sequential growth.
    $240M13.4%
    MedTech
    Strong performance in Cardiovascular, Surgery, and Vision. Margin declined from 24.1%.
    U.S. growth: 6.6%Outside U.S. growth: 4.5%Acquisitions and divestitures impact: -10 bps
    $8.4B5.6%21%
    Cardiovascular
    Fortifying leadership in the fastest-growing cardiovascular intervention segment.
    12%
    Electrophysiology
    Driven by procedure growth, commercial execution, VARIPULSE, and competitive mapping.
    9.7%
    Shockwave
    Driven by double-digit growth globally in both coronary and peripheral. European approval of Javelin Peripheral Intravascular Lithotripsy Catheter.
    Patients supported: 1 millionth patient
    20.9%
    Abiomed
    Continued strong adoption of Impella technology.
    15.6%
    Surgery
    Driven by technology penetration in wound closure (7% growth) and biosurgery, partially offset by competitive pressures in energy and China VBP.
    Divestitures impact: ~-50 bps
    3.3%
    Vision
    Strong growth across contact lenses and surgical vision.
    6%
    Contact Lenses and Other Products
    Driven by market growth, ACUVUE OASYS 1-day family, and strategic price actions.
    3.5%
    Surgical Vision
    Strong quarter driven by new product innovations (TECNIS PureSee, Odyssey, Eyhance), robust demand, and commercial execution.
    13.8%
    Orthopaedics
    Gaining momentum and returned to growth, with strong performance in hips and knees.
    Hips growth: 5.1%Knees growth: 5.6%
    2.4%

    Operational metrics

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    Cost of products sold leverage
    60 bps
    Q3 FY25

    Leveraged by 60 basis points.

    Selling, marketing and administrative expenses deleverage
    40 bps
    Q3 FY25

    Deleveraged by 40 basis points.

    Research and development expenses leverage
    670 bps
    Q3 FY25

    Leveraged by 670 basis points, primarily due to a prior-year expense.

    R&D spend
    $3.7B
    Q3 FY25

    Continued strong investment in research and development.

    Net interest expense
    $18Mvs $99M income in Q3 2024
    Q3 FY25

    Shifted to a net expense from income in the prior year.

    Other income and expense
    $0.5Bvs $1.8B expense in prior year
    Q3 FY25

    Net income compared to an expense in the prior year.

    Effective tax rate
    31.2%vs 19.3% in Q3 2024
    Q3 FY25

    Increased primarily due to the One Big Beautiful Bill Act.

    Innovative Medicine adjusted income before tax margin
    44.3%improved from 37.9%
    Q3 FY25

    Improved primarily due to a prior-year expense.

    MedTech adjusted income before tax margin
    21%declined from 24.1%
    Q3 FY25

    Declined due to macroeconomic factors and COGS.

    Cash and marketable securities
    $19B
    Q3 FY25

    Balance at the end of the third quarter.

    Debt
    $46B
    Q3 FY25

    Balance at the end of the third quarter.

    Net debt position
    $27Bvs $32B in Q2
    Q3 FY25

    Reduced from the second quarter.

    Innovative Medicine growth excluding STELARA
    16%
    Q3 FY25

    Strong growth for the pharmaceutical business when excluding the impact of STELARA LOE.

    US investment plan
    $55B
    Next 4 years

    Commitment to invest in U.S.-based innovation and manufacturing.

    Manufacturing facility investment
    $2B
    Ongoing

    Commitment to increase presence in North Carolina with a new dedicated manufacturing facility.

    Bladder cancer patients newly diagnosed annually
    600,000
    Annual

    Total patients newly diagnosed with bladder cancer each year.

    Non-muscle invasive bladder cancer patients
    75%
    Annual

    Percentage of newly diagnosed bladder cancer patients with non-muscle invasive localized disease.

    High-risk non-muscle invasive bladder cancer patients
    50%
    Annual

    Percentage of non-muscle invasive bladder cancer patients who are high-risk.

    Psoriasis patients receiving advanced treatments
    <30%
    Current

    Less than 30% of eligible patients with moderate to severe psoriasis are receiving advanced treatments.

    Industry KPIs

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    MetricValueDetails
    Peak sales guidance$5BUSD
    EPS revenue guidanceFY25 Revenue: 4.8%-5.3% operational; FY25 Adj. EPS: $10.80-$10.90
    Pricing policy impact
    Pipeline clinical milestones60+deals
    Regulatory approvals filingsApproved
    Therapeutic drug market share50%%
    Geographic regional revenue growthU.S. 6.2%; OUS 4.4%%
    Clinical trial efficacy safety data99.7%%
    Business development capacity deal appetite

    Product announcements

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    ProductTypeDetails
    ACUVUE OASYS MAX 1-Day familyexpansion

    Deals & partnerships

    2
    Intra-Cellular TherapiesAcquisition of company with FDA approved CAPLYTA

    Acquisition of Intra-Cellular Therapies, which contributed to Innovative Medicine growth and strengthened neuropsychiatry leadership with CAPLYTA.

    DePuy SynthesPlanned separation of Orthopaedics business

    Planned separation of the Orthopaedics business, which will operate as DePuy Synthes, the largest orthopaedics company. Prioritizing a tax-free spin-off.

    Risks & headwinds

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    STELARA Loss of Exclusivity (LOE)Q3 FY25 and ongoing

    640 basis point headwind to worldwide sales; 1,070 basis point headwind to Innovative Medicine sales; 42% decline in STELARA sales

    Mitigation: Strong performance of other key brands and new launches in Innovative Medicine, driving overall segment growth despite the headwind.

    Part D redesign impactQ3 FY25 and ongoing

    Partially offset ERLEADA growth; contributed to STELARA decline

    Mitigation: Not explicitly stated, but company continues to drive market growth and share gains for affected products.

    MedTech macroeconomic factors and cost of products soldQ3 FY25

    MedTech margin declined from 24.1% to 21%

    Mitigation: Partially offset by expense leveraging in SM&A; strategic focus on higher-growth markets and new product adoption.

    Competitive pressures in energy (Surgery segment)Q3 FY25

    Partially offset Surgery growth

    Mitigation: Not explicitly stated, but company focuses on technology penetration in wound closure and strength of biosurgery portfolio.

    China VBP (Volume-Based Procurement) across MedTech portfolioQ3 FY25

    Negative impact on Surgery growth

    Mitigation: Not explicitly stated, but company continues to drive innovation and commercial execution.

    Higher average debt balance and lower average cash balanceQ3 FY25

    Net interest expense of $18 million compared to $99 million income in Q3 2024

    Mitigation: Company continues to utilize free cash flow generation and strong balance sheet to invest and return capital.

    Increased effective tax rate due to One Big Beautiful Bill ActQ3 FY25

    Effective tax rate of 31.2% compared to 19.3% in Q3 2024; $1 billion remeasurement of deferred tax balances

    Mitigation: Company remains committed to investing in U.S.-based innovation and manufacturing, believing U.S. tax policy enables this.

    What to watch in Q4 FY25

    5

    Orthopaedics separation progress

    Mid-next year
    CurrentEarly in the process, prioritizing spin-off
    TargetMaterial developments

    Why it matters

    The separation will significantly reshape J&J's portfolio and financial profile, impacting future growth and margins.

    Given that we are early in the process, there are limited details available, but we are committed to providing you with information on a timely basis. While we will, of course, communicate material developments, we don't expect to have anything newsworthy to convey until mid-next year.

    Q&A highlights

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    Why is the Orthopaedics spin-off happening now, could other divisions be separated in the future, and how does this impact long-term guidance?

    The spin-off is a strategic move to focus J&J on high-growth markets and allow Orthopaedics to thrive as a stand-alone entity. It is not a precursor for other separations, as the current portfolio is well-positioned. Long-term guidance will likely include Orthopaedics for 2026, with material updates provided as the separation progresses.

    It's been a hallmark of Johnson & Johnson to be a good steward of our capital and to make decisions in our portfolio to prioritize where we think breakthrough innovation can come through. And that's exactly what we are doing. We're moving Johnson & Johnson into high-growth markets with significant unmet medical need.

    asked by Alexandria Hammond · answered by Joaquin Duato

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    Detailed Narrative

    01

    Strategic Portfolio Optimization and Orthopaedics Spin-Off

    Johnson & Johnson announced the planned separation of its Orthopaedics business, DePuy Synthes, to further sharpen its focus on high-growth, high-margin markets. This move is part of a continuous portfolio optimization strategy aimed at accelerating growth in Innovative Medicine and MedTech. The new DePuy Synthes will be the largest, most comprehensive orthopaedics company, addressing a market exceeding $50 billion, and is expected to benefit from a more focused business model and enhanced flexibility. The separation is targeted for completion within 18 to 24 months, with a spin-off being the prioritized tax-free option.

    02

    Innovative Medicine Growth Drivers

    The Innovative Medicine segment delivered 5.3% operational sales growth, overcoming a significant 1,070 basis point headwind from STELARA's loss of exclusivity. This growth was fueled by double-digit increases across 11 brands, including DARZALEX (19.9%), CARVYKTI (81.4%), and TREMFYA (40.1%). New launches like INLEXZO for bladder cancer, with a projected $5 billion annual peak sales, and the combination of RYBREVANT plus LAZCLUZE for lung cancer, also a $5 billion peak sales asset, are expected to drive future growth. The company also highlighted the strong performance of SPRAVATO (60.8%) in neuroscience and the recent acquisition of CAPLYTA.

    03

    MedTech Acceleration and Focus Areas

    MedTech operational sales accelerated to 5.6%, with strong performance across Cardiovascular, Surgery, and Vision. Cardiovascular sales increased by approximately 12%, driven by Shockwave (20% growth) and Abiomed (15% growth). Electrophysiology delivered close to 10% growth, bolstered by VARIPULSE. Surgical Vision grew 13.8% due to new product innovations like TECNIS PureSee. The company's strategy is to concentrate on these high-growth areas, with the Orthopaedics spin-off expected to improve MedTech's top-line revenue growth and operating margin by at least 75 basis points.

    04

    Pipeline Progress and Future Catalysts

    J&J is advancing its pipeline with significant regulatory milestones. FDA approval for INLEXZO in bladder cancer was received, and the company anticipates FDA approval for subcutaneous RYBREVANT and CAPLYTA in adjunctive major depressive disorder. Icotrokinra, an oral peptide for plaque psoriasis, was submitted to the FDA in July, with Phase II data for ulcerative colitis already presented and a 2026 approval anticipated. In MedTech, the OTTAVA robotic surgical system is expected to have an FDA de novo submission in early 2026, and new product launches like Shockwave C2 Aero and TECNIS PureSee are planned for FY26.

    05

    Capital Allocation and M&A Strategy

    The company generated $14 billion in free cash flow through the first 9 months of the year and ended Q3 with $19 billion in cash and marketable securities. Management emphasized a disciplined capital allocation strategy, prioritizing investment in its pipeline and portfolio. They explicitly stated that large M&A is not necessary to meet the high end of their growth targets, given the momentum of the current portfolio and pipeline. The company continues to pursue opportunistic, high-value smaller deals, citing 60 such deals in the last 18 months, which have led to assets like INLEXZO and icotrokinra.

    06

    U.S. Investment and Tax Policy

    Johnson & Johnson reiterated its commitment to investing $55 billion in U.S.-based innovation and manufacturing over the next four years. This includes breaking ground at its Wilson, North Carolina facility and a $2 billion commitment to a new manufacturing facility at FUJIFILM's biopharmaceutical site in Holly Springs. The company believes U.S. tax policy has enabled it to increase its manufacturing footprint in the U.S., where it has more facilities than in any other country. The increase in the effective tax rate to 31.2% was largely due to the One Big Beautiful Bill Act.

    AI-generated summary of the company’s earnings call. Not investment advice.