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    Earnings call· Mar 2025(Q1 FY25)

    M&T BANK CORP MTB

    Apr 14, 2025 Source

    Executive summary

    M&T Bank Q1 FY25 — Strong Capital and Liquidity Amidst Dynamic Economic Backdrop

    M&T Bank delivered a strong start to the year, showcasing robust capital and liquidity amidst a dynamic economic environment. The bank achieved an 8 basis point NIM expansion and significant share repurchases, while also improving asset quality metrics. Management remains focused on disciplined growth and expense management, navigating market uncertainties with a strong balance sheet and a commitment to shareholder returns.

    Highlights

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    • Net interest margin increased 8 basis points to 3.66%.

    • Executed $662 million in share repurchases.

    • Tangible book value per share grew 2%.

    • Fee income grew 5% YoY (or 10% excluding prior year BLG distribution).

    • Commercial criticized balances reduced by $516 million.

    • Nonaccrual loans reduced by $150 million.

    • Net charge-offs of 34 basis points were below full-year expectations of 40 basis points.

    Concerns

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    • Taxable-equivalent net interest income decreased $33 million (2%) QoQ.

    • Average loans and leases decreased $0.9 billion, driven by CRE declines.

    • Average total deposits declined $3.4 billion (2%) QoQ.

    • Efficiency ratio increased to 60.5% from 56.8% QoQ.

    • C&I criticized balances increased by $150 million.

    Guidance & targets

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    CategoryTargetConfidence
    Taxable-equivalent net interest income
    $7.05 billion to $7.15 billion
    high materiality
    High
    Net interest margin
    mid to high 360s
    high materiality
    High
    Average loan and lease balances
    $135 billion to $137 billion
    high materiality
    Medium
    Average deposit balances
    $162 billion to $164 billion
    high materiality
    Medium
    Noninterest income
    high end of $2.5 billion to $2.6 billion
    medium materiality
    Medium
    Total noninterest expense
    $5.4 billion to $5.5 billion
    medium materiality
    High
    Net charge-offs
    near 40 basis points
    medium materiality
    High
    Criticized loans
    continue to decline
    low materiality
    Medium
    CET1 ratio
    11%
    high materiality
    High
    Net interest income
    $1.8 billion
    medium materiality
    Medium

    Operational metrics

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    Net operating income
    $594 millioncompared to $691 million in the linked quarter
    Q1 FY25

    Reported on a net operating or tangible basis.

    Diluted net operating earnings per share
    $3.38down from $3.92 in the prior quarter
    Q1 FY25

    Reported on a net operating or tangible basis.

    Return on average assets (ROTA)
    1.21%
    Q1 FY25

    Net operating ROTA.

    Return on tangible common equity (ROTCE)
    12.53%
    Q1 FY25

    Net operating ROTCE.

    Loan yields
    6.06%decreased 11 basis points
    Q1 FY25

    Decrease driven by lower rates on variable loans and lower nonaccrual interest, partially offset by fixed rate loan repricing and smaller drag from cash flow hedges.

    Average investment securities increase
    $0.8 billion
    Q1 FY25

    Sequential increase.

    Yield on investment securities
    4%increased 12 basis points
    Q1 FY25

    Yield for new purchases exceeded yield on maturing securities.

    New securities purchases
    $2.6 billion
    Q1 FY25

    Purchased in the first quarter.

    Duration of investment portfolio
    3.6 years
    Q1 FY25

    At the end of the quarter.

    Unrealized pretax loss on available-for-sale portfolio
    $8 million
    Q1 FY25

    If included in regulatory capital.

    Broker deposits decline
    $0.7 billion
    Q1 FY25

    Sequential decline in average broker deposits.

    Average noninterest-bearing deposits decline
    $1.1 billion
    Q1 FY25

    Sequential decline.

    Noninterest-bearing deposit mix (excluding broker deposits)
    30.2%relatively unchanged
    Q1 FY25

    Average mix in the first quarter.

    Interest-bearing deposit costs
    2.37%decreased 27 basis points
    Q1 FY25

    Favorable declines across business lines and higher level of broker and retail time deposit maturities.

    Net gain on sale of noncore securities
    $18 million
    Q4 FY24

    Included in prior quarter noninterest income.

    BLG distribution
    $23 million
    Q4 FY24

    Included in prior quarter noninterest income. No distribution in Q1 FY25.

    Residential mortgage banking revenues
    $82 millionincreased $6 million sequentially
    Q1 FY25

    Reflecting partial quarter benefit from new sub-servicing, expected to reach full run rate in Q2.

    Commercial mortgage banking revenues
    $36 milliondecreased $5 million
    Q1 FY25

    Reflecting lower gains on the sale of commercial mortgage loans.

    Other revenues from operations
    $142 milliondecreased $34 million
    Q1 FY25

    Mostly reflecting the Q4 FY24 $23 million BLG distribution.

    Noninterest expenses
    $1.42 billionincreased $52 million from the prior quarter
    Q1 FY25

    Includes intangible amortization.

    Notable expenses
    $35 million
    Q4 FY24

    Related to redemption of trust preferred obligations and corporate real estate optimization, partially offset by pension-related credit.

    Salary and benefits
    $887 millionincreased $97 million
    Q1 FY25

    Mostly reflecting $110 million of seasonally higher compensation expense related to stock-based compensation, payroll-related taxes and other employee benefits.

    Other cost of operations
    $118 milliondecreased $50 million
    Q1 FY25

    Primarily reflecting previously mentioned Q4 notable items.

    Charge-offs (5 largest)
    <$30 million
    Q1 FY25

    Total, representing both C&I and CRE credits.

    AOCI impact on CET1 ratio
    positive 6 basis points
    Q1 FY25

    From available-for-sale securities and pension-related components combined, if included in regulatory capital.

    Unemployment rate assumption (CECL)
    ~5%up ~0.4%
    Q1 FY25

    Averaged up due to macroeconomic forecast adjustments, not a recessionary rate but reflects downward pressure scenario.

    Securities coming off
    $4 billion
    ongoing

    Known amount of securities maturing and repricing higher.

    Potential higher yield for securities repricing
    4.5% to 5.5%
    ongoing

    Depending on the yield curve, maturing securities are expected to reprice higher.

    Swap book accretion
    up to 30 basis points
    over time

    Known to go up and accrete more over time.

    CRE loan payoffs pulled forward
    40%
    Q1 FY25

    Of payoffs received, pulled forward maturities from FY26 and beyond.

    Commercial loan utilization
    down 1%
    Q1 FY25

    No significant draws or increased activity.

    Broker deposits balance
    ~$7 billion - $8 billiondown from peak 1.5 years ago
    Q1 FY25

    Current balance.

    Federal Home Loan Bank advances balance
    $1 billion - $2 billion
    Q1 FY25

    Current balance.

    Industry KPIs

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    MetricValueDetails
    Loans$134.8 billionUSD
    Deposits$161.2 billionUSD
    Rotce ROE12.53%%
    Cet1 ratio11.5%%
    Capital returns$662 millionUSD
    Fee income lines$611 millionUSD
    Allowance reserves1.63%%
    Net interest income$1.71 billionUSD
    Net interest margin3.66%%
    Net charge offs npls34 basis pointsbps
    Total operating expenses$5.4 billion to $5.5 billionUSD
    Provision for credit losses$130 millionUSD
    Efficiency ratio operating leverage60.5%%

    Risks & headwinds

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    Dynamic economic backdrop with mixed dataCurrent

    Not quantified directly, but reflected in recent equity market and rate volatility.

    Mitigation: Strong liquidity, strong capital generation, CET1 ratio at 11.5%.

    Tariff uncertaintiesCurrent

    Not quantified, but noted as impacting equity market and rate volatility.

    Mitigation: Implies cautious approach, no explicit mitigation stated.

    Business customers on pause for investments/acquisitionsCurrent

    Not quantified directly, but noted as 'lack of confidence' and 'things keep changing in D.C.'.

    Mitigation: Growing C&I business in middle-market, fund banking, corporate/institutional, dealer commercial services.

    Challenges in CRE portfolioCurrent, expected to continue for a couple of quarters.

    CRE loans declined 6% to $26.3 billion. $667 million decline in CRE criticized balances.

    Mitigation: Disciplined lending, remixing portfolio (less office, more multifamily/industrial), pipeline building for future growth.

    Increase in C&I criticized balancesQ1 FY25

    $150 million increase in C&I criticized balances.

    Mitigation: Attributed to idiosyncratic issues with one customer (roll-up strategy for big trucks), expected to play out positively with no losses.

    Potential for recessionFuture

    CECL scenario has GDP at 0.1% positive, unemployment at ~5%.

    Mitigation: Prepared to adjust reserves accordingly; currently seeing a slowdown, not a recession.

    Stress in specific loan portfoliosCurrent

    2 smaller government contractor credits downgraded; 1 nonprofit credit downgraded.

    Mitigation: Close monitoring of retail trade, manufacturing, construction wholesale trade, government contractors, and nonprofit portfolios.

    What to watch in Q2 FY25

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    CRE portfolio stabilization and growth

    Next couple of quarters
    CurrentDeclined 6% in Q1 FY25; $26.3 billion balance.
    TargetLeveling out and beginning to grow.

    Why it matters

    CRE shrinkage is a primary driver of overall loan balance decline and impacts NII. Stabilization is key for loan growth.

    our CRE portfolio to bottom out on an average basis probably by the fourth quarter. We think that our pipeline is going to start to build and is building now and just has to go through and basically get on the books.

    Q&A highlights

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    Inquired about deposit flow specifics, expected mix shift, and ability to reduce higher-cost liabilities, given the updated NII guidance.

    Management lowered deposit guidance but expects to be at the higher end of the range due to strong business growth. Additional deposits will be used to pay off higher liabilities or increase liquidity at the Fed.

    we did lower the guidance on deposits, but I think we feel pretty comfortable that we'll probably be at the higher end of that deposit range, still having really good growth of our businesses across the board

    asked by Kenneth Usdin · answered by Daryl Bible

    2 min read6 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

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    Balance Sheet Dynamics

    Average loans and leases decreased by $0.9 billion to $134.8 billion, primarily due to a 6% decline in CRE loans, reflecting payoffs, paydowns, and muted origination activity. This was partially offset by 1% growth in C&I, consumer, and residential mortgage loans. Average total deposits also declined by $3.4 billion or 2% to $161.2 billion, including a $0.7 billion reduction in broker deposits, with noninterest-bearing deposits decreasing by $1.1 billion to $45.4 billion.

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    Net Interest Margin Expansion

    Despite a 2% sequential decrease in taxable-equivalent net interest income to $1.71 billion, net interest margin expanded by 8 basis points to 3.66%. This improvement was driven by continued securities growth, lower wholesale funding, and favorable deposit pricing, with interest-bearing deposit costs declining 27 basis points to 2.37%. The bank's baseline forecast assumes 4 Fed rate drops, with the last in December, and a lower yield curve from April 7th.

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    Asset Quality Improvement

    Asset quality continued to improve, with commercial criticized balances reducing by $516 million and nonaccrual loans decreasing by $150 million or 9% to $1.5 billion. Net charge-offs were 34 basis points, below the full-year expectation of 40 basis points. The allowance-to-loan ratio increased 2 basis points to 1.63% due to consumer loan growth and a modest deterioration in the macroeconomic forecast, with the CECL unemployment assumption now around 5%.

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    Fee Income and Expense Management

    Fee income grew 5% year-over-year, or 10% excluding a prior-year BLG distribution. Noninterest income was $611 million, with strength in mortgage banking, service charges, trust, and brokerage. Noninterest expenses increased to $1.42 billion, primarily due to $110 million of seasonally higher compensation expenses, leading to an efficiency ratio of 60.5%. Management remains focused on expense control and driving positive operating leverage, with flexibility to adjust if needed.

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    Capital Strength and Allocation

    M&T's CET1 ratio was an estimated 11.5%, reflecting strong capital generation partially offset by $662 million in share repurchases. The bank aims to reach an 11% CET1 ratio in 2025, with share repurchases varying with RWA growth. Management emphasized strong liquidity and capital levels, positioning the bank well for a dynamic economic environment, noting that AOCI impact on CET1 was a positive 6 basis points.

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    Regulatory Environment and Outlook

    Management noted a potentially more pro-business regulatory environment, with discussions around tailoring regulations for regional banks. They anticipate potential tweaks to Tier 1 leverage ratio, SLR, stress testing, Basel III, LCR, and long-term debt, which could lead to improvements in efficiency and a more favorable operating landscape. The bank participated in the stress test and is optimistic for a lower stress capital buffer.

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