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    Earnings call· Dec 2024(Q4 FY24)

    NORFOLK SOUTHERN CORP NSC

    Jan 29, 2025 Source

    Executive summary

    Norfolk Southern Q4 FY24 — Strong Operational Performance Drives OR Improvement and Share Repurchase Resumption

    Norfolk Southern closed out FY24 with solid Q4 results, driven by strong operational performance and cost discipline, exceeding its cost savings target and narrowing the margin gap to peers. The company is building on this momentum with a new operating plan and expects to resume share repurchases in 2025, despite anticipating continued headwinds from fuel, coal, and potential tariffs. Management emphasized a cerebral approach to PSR 2.0, focusing on both efficiency and customer service.

    Highlights

    5

    • Adjusted operating ratio improved by 390 basis points year-over-year to 64.9% in Q4 FY24.

    • Exceeded 2024 cost savings target, delivering nearly $300 million, $50 million more than the $250 million commitment.

    • Volume increased 3% year-over-year in Q4 FY24, led by intermodal and agriculture.

    • FRA train accident rate improved by 27% for the full year 2024.

    • System speed improved by 10% year-over-year, with merchandise and unit train speeds up 11% and 17% respectively.

    Concerns

    4

    • Revenue declined primarily due to lower fuel surcharge revenue and negative mix, along with rate pressure in intermodal and coal.

    • Coal volume decreased 1% in Q4 FY24, with prices driving a 9% decline in revenue due to low natural gas prices and lower seaborne prices.

    • Expected lower vehicle production in 2025 due to weaker-than-expected sales and inventory build.

    • Potential for new tariffs introduces near-term uncertainty in many markets served.

    Guidance & targets

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    CategoryTargetConfidence
    Revenue growth
    3%
    high materiality
    High
    Cost takeout
    exceed $150 million
    high materiality
    High
    Operating ratio improvement
    150 basis points
    high materiality
    High
    Capital expenditures
    $2.2 billion range
    high materiality
    High
    Share repurchases
    resume
    high materiality
    High
    Long-term Operating Ratio improvement
    100 to 150 basis points per year
    high materiality
    High
    Long-term Operating Ratio
    60 range
    high materiality
    Medium

    Segment performance

    3
    SegmentRevenueYoYQoQMargin
    Merchandise
    Volume improved slightly from higher soybean and corn shipments driven by new business and some spot opportunities, offset by declines in automotive, metals, and energy-related markets. Achieved record revenue, revenue per unit, and RPU less fuel for the full year 2024.
    RPU less fuel: up 2% (Q4 YoY)RPU less fuel: record for full year 2024Revenue: record for full year 2024Revenue per unit: record for full year 2024
    		—slightly improved——
    Intermodal
    Volume gains in both domestic and international through sales pipeline wins, increased freight demand, and empty container volumes. Premium continues to face market headwinds with truck prices remaining low. RPU less fuel finished up 2% due to contract recoveries and rate true-ups.
    RPU less fuel: up 2% (Q4 YoY)
    		—5% volume increase——
    Coal
    Volume decreased 1%, with coal prices driving a 9% decline in revenue. Utility experienced reduced burn demand due to continued low natural gas prices, while lower seaborne prices impacted export business.
    		9% decline1% volume decrease——

    Operational metrics

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    Adjusted Operating Ratio
    64.9%up 150 basis points sequentially
    Q4 FY24

    Up 150 basis points sequentially, a little better than projected due to $20 million in contract recoveries.

    Adjusted Operating Ratio
    65.8%exceeded 100 to 150 basis point guide
    FY24

    Surpassed the guide of 100 to 150 basis points improvement, delivering 160 basis points of improvement.

    Adjusted Operating Ratio
    64.1%at favorable end of range
    H2 FY24

    At the favorable end of the outlined range.

    Cost savings
    $300 millionexceeded $250 million target by $50 million
    FY24

    Exceeded original $250 million target by $50 million.

    Revenue less fuel
    2% increaseYoY
    Q4 FY24

    Increase in revenue excluding fuel surcharge impact.

    FRA Reportable Injury Ratio
    improved by 13%YoY
    Q4 FY24

    Improved compared to the same period last year.

    FRA Reportable Injury Ratio
    0.61lowest since December 2020
    December

    Lowest reportable injury ratio since December 2020.

    Car Miles per Car Day
    rose over 13%YoY
    FY24

    Improvement in car utilization.

    GTMs per Available Horsepower
    improved by 19%YoY
    FY24

    Improvement in locomotive productivity.

    Car Maintenance Running Repair Dwell
    down 31%YoY
    FY24

    Reduction in running repair dwell time due to car maintenance war room.

    Car Maintenance Repaired Dwell
    down 23%YoY
    FY24

    Reduction in repaired dwell time due to car maintenance war room.

    Over-the-Road Interruptions
    decreased by 25%YoY
    FY24

    Significant gains in crew productivity and availability.

    Crew Overtime Costs
    down 19%YoY
    FY24

    Reduction in crew overtime costs.

    Terminal Detention Costs
    down 19%YoY
    FY24

    Reduction in terminal detention costs.

    RPU less fuel
    2% increaseYoY
    Q4 FY24

    Marks another quarterly record, 38 out of 39 consecutive quarters of YoY growth.

    RPU less fuel
    record
    Q4 FY24

    Set a quarterly record for Industrial Products.

    RPU less fuel
    record
    Q4 FY24

    Set a quarterly record for Automotive.

    Fuel Headwinds
    $261 millionheadwind
    FY24

    Significant fuel headwinds impacting overall revenue.

    Eastern Ohio Incident Costs
    $2.2 billion
    to date

    Total costs incurred related to the incident.

    Eastern Ohio Incident Insurance Recoveries
    $650 million
    FY24

    Insurance recoveries accelerated in FY24.

    Eastern Ohio Incident Insurance Recoveries
    $750 million
    total

    Total insurance recoveries recorded to date.

    Total Expense Decline
    $153 millionYoY
    Q4 FY24

    Decline in expenses year-over-year, with improvements in all expense line items except depreciation.

    Purchased Services Expense Decline
    $40 millionYoY
    Q4 FY24

    Decline in purchased services despite higher volumetric costs.

    Overtime Reduction
    18.5%YoY
    Q4 FY24

    Reduction in overtime costs.

    Overtime Reduction
    almost 15%YoY
    FY24

    Reduction in overtime costs for the full year.

    Industrial Development New Locations
    8
    Q4 FY24

    New industrial development locations brought online.

    Industrial Development Facility Expansions
    4
    Q4 FY24

    Facility expansions brought online.

    Industrial Development Incremental Carloads
    150,000
    annual

    Incremental carloads from active pipeline, representing full production for new facilities.

    Industry KPIs

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    MetricValueDetails
    Safety27%%
    Volume3%%
    Operating ratio64.9%%
    Service metrics0failures
    Network fluidity10%%
    Pricing vs rail inflationbeat inflation
    Fuel surcharge diesel price$261 millionUSD
    Labor productivity headcount18.5%%
    Tariff trade policy revenue impactuncertainty

    Deals & partnerships

    1
    nullSale of a portion of the Virginia line$53 million gain

    Gain related to the finalization of the Virginia line sale transaction, with the first portion recognized last quarter.

    Risks & headwinds

    6
    Lower fuel surcharge revenueQ4 FY24

    Revenue declined primarily due to lower fuel surcharge revenue

    Mitigation: Offset by positive volume and healthy core pricing in 2025.

    Negative mix and rate pressure in intermodal and coalQ4 FY24, continuing into 2025

    Revenue declined primarily due to... negative mix within the portfolio and rate pressure within intermodal and coal

    Mitigation: Focus on market share recapture and value-based pricing.

    Lower coal prices and softer demand for utility coalQ4 FY24, continuing into 2025

    Coal prices driving a 9% decline in revenue (Q4 FY24); volume decreased 1% (Q4 FY24)

    Mitigation: Monitoring natural gas prices and adjusting models; new customer volumes expected in Q2 FY25.

    Lower vehicle production2025

    Expected lower vehicle production due to weaker-than-expected sales and some inventory build

    Mitigation: Focus on other merchandise markets like chemicals and manufacturing activities supported by lower interest rates.

    Potential for new tariffsNear-term

    Introduces some near-term uncertainty in the many markets that we serve

    Mitigation: Company's network is nimble enough to adjust to changes in source of supply (domestic vs. international); focus on increasing wallet share.

    Low truck prices and excess capacity in the trucking marketQ4 FY24, gradually improving

    Truck prices remained low, causing domestic intermodal rates to be generally in line with last quarter

    Mitigation: Excess capacity has started to come down; gradual improvement in key industry metrics like increasing tender rejections.

    What to watch in Q1 FY25

    5

    2025 Cost Takeout Achievement

    FY25
    Currentnearly $300 million (FY24)
    Targetexceed $150 million (FY25 target)

    Why it matters

    Demonstrates continued operational efficiency and contributes to margin expansion.

    We exceeded our 2024 target of $250 million of cost takeout, and we are again looking to exceed the original $150 million target for 2025.

    Q&A highlights

    6

    Asked for breakdown of $150M productivity target and potential for OR to reach 60% range.

    Management detailed productivity initiatives across comp & ben, materials, fuel efficiency, and purchased services. They expressed confidence in exceeding the 2025 target and reiterated a path to 60% OR with economic recovery.

    “We put out the 100 to 150 basis point improvement guideline on a long-term basis on kind of a regular where we are volume environment. And once we get the kind of the surge, the economic recovery that we're expecting, that's kind of the turbo boost where I think we've got a path to that 60 range.”

    asked by Chris Wetherbee · answered by Mark George

    2 min read6 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

    01

    Q4 Performance Overview

    Norfolk Southern delivered solid Q4 FY24 results, narrowing the margin gap to peers. The company moved 3% more volume, leading to a 2% increase in revenue ex-fuel. Adjusted operating ratio was 65.8% for the full year, surpassing the guide, and 64.1% for the second half. The company exceeded its 2024 cost removal target by $50 million, achieving nearly $300 million in savings.

    02

    Safety Improvements

    Safety metrics improved dramatically throughout 2024. The FRA reportable injury ratio improved by 13% in Q4 year-over-year, with December recording the lowest ratio since December 2020 (0.61). The FRA train accident rate for the full year improved by 27%. The company finished 2024 and started 2025 injury-free for over 1 million man-hours.

    03

    PSR 2.0 and Operational Efficiency

    The PSR 2.0 approach is delivering simultaneous efficiency and service improvements. System speed improved by 10% year-over-year, with intermodal train speed up 3.1%, merchandise up 11%, and unit train speeds up 17%. Car miles per car day rose over 13%, and GTMs per available horsepower improved by 19%. The company also achieved record fuel efficiencies for the quarter and full year.

    04

    Cost Discipline and Productivity Initiatives

    The company's "car maintenance war room" reduced running repair and repaired dwell by 31% and 23% respectively year-over-year. The "need for speed war room" contributed to the 10% AAR speed increase and is now focused on reducing slow orders and improving fuel efficiency. Over-the-road interruptions decreased by 25%, leading to 19% reductions in crew overtime and terminal detention costs.

    05

    2025 Operating Plan and Focus Areas

    A new operating plan, the "next phase transformation," is in development and will roll out in Q1 FY25. This plan aims to further reduce handlings, introduce tighter standards for terminal times and connections, and drive continuous improvement. Key focus areas for efficiency and savings in 2025 include fuel and mechanical infrastructure.

    06

    Balance Sheet and Capital Allocation

    The company generated 390 basis points of operating ratio improvement year-over-year in Q4, leading to high single-digit net income and EPS growth. Balance sheet restoration is expected to be complete in 2025, allowing for the resumption of share repurchases at a measured pace. Capital expenditures are projected to be in the $2.2 billion range for FY25.

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