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    Earnings call· Mar 2025(Q1 FY25)

    Phillips 66 PSX

    Apr 25, 2025 Source

    Executive summary

    Phillips 66 Q1 FY25 — Strategic Execution and Shareholder Returns Amidst Challenged Macro

    Phillips 66 navigated a challenging Q1 FY25 with a focus on strategic execution, disciplined capital allocation, and shareholder returns, including a dividend increase and significant buybacks. The company completed a major turnaround program, acquired EPIC NGL, and continued to divest non-core assets, while addressing macro headwinds in refining, renewables, and chemicals. Management emphasized the integrated business model and data-driven decision-making, pushing back on calls for a Midstream spin-off due to potential dis-synergies and tax implications.

    Highlights

    5

    • Returned $716 million to shareholders in Q1 FY25, including $247 million in share repurchases.

    • Completed one of the largest spring turnaround programs safely, on time, and under budget, positioning for upside in Q2 FY25.

    • Acquired EPIC NGL on April 1, which is immediately accretive and expands Permian takeaway capacity.

    • Announced a $0.05 per share increase in the quarterly dividend, maintaining an annual growth streak since 2012.

    • Divested over $3.5 billion of non-core assets at high multiples, exceeding prior targets.

    Concerns

    5

    • Reported an adjusted loss of $368 million or $0.90 per share in Q1 FY25.

    • Refining, Renewables, and Chemicals segments faced a challenged macro environment during the quarter.

    • Midstream results decreased due to lower volumes stemming from refining turnaround activity.

    • Renewable Fuels results decreased significantly due to the transition from blenders tax credits to production tax credits, inventory impacts, and lower international credit recognition.

    • A potential sale of the Midstream business could incur a significant tax hit, estimated at up to $10 billion on a $50 billion valuation, due to low tax basis.

    Guidance & targets

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    CategoryTargetConfidence
    Refining Utilization Rate
    mid-90s
    high materiality
    High
    Chemicals Utilization Rate
    mid-90s
    medium materiality
    High
    Refining Turnaround Expense
    $65 million and $75 million
    medium materiality
    High
    Corporate and Other costs
    $340 million and $360 million
    medium materiality
    High
    Midstream Run Rate Adjusted EBITDA
    $4.5 billion
    high materiality
    High
    Dos Picos II expansion plant online
    third quarter of 2025
    medium materiality
    High
    Iron Mesa plant online
    first quarter of 2027
    medium materiality
    High
    Debt Level Target
    $17 billion
    high materiality
    Medium
    Shareholder Returns
    over 50%
    high materiality
    High
    Global Refining Capacity Shutting
    about 1 million barrels
    medium materiality
    High
    Global Refining Capacity Net Additions
    about 300,000 barrels a day
    medium materiality
    Medium
    Global Gasoline Demand Growth
    about 0.5% up
    medium materiality
    Medium
    U.S. Gasoline Demand Growth
    about 1%
    medium materiality
    Medium
    Global Distillate Demand Growth
    about 1%
    medium materiality
    Medium
    U.S. Distillate Demand Growth
    about 2%
    medium materiality
    Medium
    Global Jet Demand Growth
    up 2%
    medium materiality
    Medium
    U.S. Jet Demand Growth
    1.4% up
    medium materiality
    Medium
    Canadian Differentials Market Impact
    about 358,000 barrels a day off the market
    medium materiality
    High
    RVO for RINs implementation
    Q3
    medium materiality
    Medium
    LCFS Clarity
    by the end of June
    medium materiality
    Medium

    Segment performance

    5
    SegmentRevenueYoYQoQMargin
    Midstream
    Results decreased mainly due to lower volumes because of the turnaround activity in Refining. This was partly offset by the impact of higher commodity prices benefiting gathering and processing results.
    Fractionation volumes (Sweeny Hub): 650,000 barrels per day (record)
    		———decreased
    Chemicals
    Results increased mainly due to higher volumes and lower costs, driven by turnaround activity in the prior quarter.
    		———increased
    Refining
    Lower results reflect the impact of lower volumes and higher costs, driven by turnaround activity and higher utility prices. This is partly offset by increased realized margins from higher market cracks.
    		———lower
    Marketing and Specialties
    Results improved due to lower depreciation and higher margins in the international business.
    		———improved
    Renewable Fuels
    Results decreased mainly due to the transition from blenders tax credits to production tax credits, inventory impacts and lower international results.
    		———decreased

    Operational metrics

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    Reported Earnings
    $487 million
    Q1 FY25

    First quarter reported earnings.

    Adjusted Loss
    $368 million
    Q1 FY25

    First quarter adjusted loss, includes $246 million pretax impact of accelerated depreciation.

    Accelerated Depreciation
    $246 million
    Q1 FY25

    Impact due to plan to cease operations at Los Angeles Refinery at the end of 2025.

    Adjusted Loss Increase
    $307 millionQoQ
    Q1 FY25

    Total company adjusted loss increased compared with the prior quarter.

    Shareholder Returns
    $716 million
    Q1 FY25

    Total returned to shareholders in Q1 FY25.

    Share Repurchases
    $247 million
    Q1 FY25

    Amount of share repurchases in Q1 FY25.

    Debt Paid Down
    $1.3 billion
    Q1 FY25

    Amount of debt paid down in Q1 FY25.

    Capital Spending
    $423 million
    Q1 FY25

    Capital spending funded in Q1 FY25.

    Ending Cash Balance
    $1.5 billion
    Q1 FY25

    Cash balance at the end of Q1 FY25.

    Non-operated Interest Sales Proceeds
    $2 billion
    Q1 FY25

    Received from the sales of non-operated equity interests in Coop and the Gulf Coast Express Pipeline.

    Non-core Asset Divestments (cumulative)
    over $3.5 billion
    past 3 years

    Cumulative divestments of non-core assets at high multiples.

    Shareholder Returns (cumulative)
    over $14 billion
    since July 2022

    Cumulative returns to shareholders since July 2022.

    Dividend Increase
    $0.05
    quarterly

    Increase in quarterly dividend per share.

    Dividend Growth Rate (CAGR)
    15%
    since 2012

    Compounded annual growth rate of the annual dividend since formation in 2012.

    Sweeny Refinery Crude Switching Capability
    40,000additional
    current

    Enhanced capability after project completion, allowing more Permian barrels.

    Salt Dome Caverns Capacity
    37 million
    current

    Capacity in salt dome caverns at Clemens dome.

    Ethane Exports to China
    48%
    historical

    Historical proportion of U.S. ethane sent to China, mentioned in context of tariffs.

    Propane Exports to China
    22%
    historical

    Historical proportion of U.S. propane sent to China, mentioned in context of tariffs.

    Refining Margins
    $3 to $4higher than Q1 average
    April

    Improvement in refining margins seen in April.

    LIFO Inventory Impact (Renewable Fuels)
    $60 million
    Q1 FY25

    Hit from drawing down low CI feedstock inventory where LIFO rate exceeded market prices.

    International Credit Recognition (Renewable Fuels)
    $50 millionnone in Q1 FY25
    Q4 FY24

    Recognition of U.K. RTFC credits in Q4 FY24, with no recognition in Q1 FY25.

    Gas Processing Capacity Added
    close to 800,000
    future

    Total gas processing capacity added from Dos Picos II and Iron Mesa plants.

    NGLs Produced from New Gas Processing Capacity
    over 100,000
    future

    NGLs expected to be produced from the new gas processing capacity.

    Refining Utilization
    low 80s
    Q1 FY25

    Guidance for Q1 FY25 utilization, heavily impacted by turnaround activity.

    Cash Balance Range
    $1.5 billion and $2.5 billion
    typical

    Typical range for cash balance at the end of most periods.

    Industry KPIs

    4
    MetricValueDetails
    Pipeline throughput storage650,000barrels per day
    Sanctioned expansion backlogclose to 800,000barrels per day
    FCF shareholder distributions$716 millionUSD
    Take or pay contract structuremostly termed up

    Deals & partnerships

    1
    EPIC NGLAcquisition of EPIC NGL to expand Permian takeaway capacity and integrate with existing assets.

    Acquired on April 1, 2025. The acquired assets are highly integrated with the existing Phillips 66 asset base.

    Capital programs

    2
    Dos Picos II expansion plantunderway
    Funding: within existing capital budget

    Part of Pinnacle acquisition strategy, expanding natural gas gathering and processing footprint in the Permian.

    Iron Mesa plantannounced
    Funding: within existing capital budget

    Benefit: serve Delaware and Midland Basin production

    Construction of another gas processing plant in the Permian, located near Goldsmith facility to improve operational efficiencies and reliability.

    Risks & headwinds

    5
    Challenged macro environment in Refining, Renewables, and ChemicalsQ1 FY25

    Adjusted loss of $368 million or $0.90 per share in Q1 FY25.

    Mitigation: Staying focused on transformational strategy, disciplined capital allocation, and leveraging integrated business model.

    Significant tax burden on potential Midstream sale

    Estimated $10 billion tax hit on a $50 billion valuation.

    Mitigation: Management is aware and considers this in strategic decisions; a spin-off would be structured as tax-free.

    Policy uncertainty in Renewable FuelsQ1 FY25, ongoing

    LIFO inventory impacts of $60 million hit in Q1 FY25; no international credit recognition in Q1 FY25 (vs $50 million in Q4 FY24).

    Mitigation: Collaborating with the administration to support U.S. manufacturing; awaiting clarity on PTCs (June/July), RVO (late May), and LCFS (end of June).

    Tariffs impacting NGL and polyethylene trade flowsOngoing

    Historically, 48% of U.S. ethane and 22% of U.S. propane went to China.

    Mitigation: Expectation of rerouting trade flows; Freeport LPG is mostly termed up; CPChem has minimized exposure to China and can source from Middle East.

    Geopolitics and slowing economyOngoing

    Difficult to predict impact on market outlook.

    Mitigation: Acknowledged as factors that make predictions hard, but current view assumes no significant slowdown or recession.

    What to watch in Q2 FY25

    5

    Debt reduction to target level

    by the end of this year
    Currentwell above your target at 38% (leverage), $1.5 billion (cash balance)
    Target$17 billion (absolute debt)

    Why it matters

    Achieving the debt target is crucial for financial strength and capital allocation flexibility, balancing shareholder returns with balance sheet health.

    I'd love to hit that $17 billion number by the end of this year. I can't guarantee that will happen. It will be dependent on where operating cash flow comes out.

    Q&A highlights

    6

    Why has Phillips 66 not pursued proposals like separating Midstream, given past reviews and Elliott's suggestions?

    Mark Lashier emphasized the Board's rigorous, data-driven approach, considering risks and unintended consequences of any separation. He highlighted the deep physical integration and synergy of Phillips 66's assets, particularly at the Sweeny complex, and noted significant dis-synergies, tax burdens (up to $10 billion on a sale), and diseconomies of scale that would arise from a Midstream spin-off or sale. He also pointed to the Board's extensive experience in transformational transactions.

    “When you step back and look at our Board, the people that we have on our board and the two new nominees that we have amongst them, they've overseen more than $300 billion in major separation transactions during their careers.”

    asked by Doug Leggate · answered by Mark Lashier

    2 min read5 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

    01

    Strategic Transformation and Board Oversight

    Mark Lashier detailed the Board's rigorous approach to strategic alternatives, emphasizing data-driven decisions over short-term trends. He highlighted the Board's extensive experience in major separation transactions, including the DowDuPont and United Technologies breakups, and clarified that Phillips 66's integrated model is not a "conglomerate" but a synergistic hydrocarbon transporter and processor. The Board expects detailed analysis of risks, unintended consequences, and financial impacts for any asset disposition or spin-off, including significant tax burdens on sales.

    02

    Refining Operational Improvements

    The company completed a significant spring turnaround program safely, on time, and under budget, with most annual activity now behind them. Projects at the Sweeny refinery added 40,000 barrels per day of heavy light crude switching capability, enhancing feedstock flexibility. At the Bayway facility, a project increased FCC native feedstock capabilities, reducing VGO imports. These low-capital, high-return investments position the segment for improved margins and higher utilization in Q2.

    03

    Midstream Growth and Integration

    The acquisition of EPIC NGL on April 1 expanded Permian takeaway capacity and is immediately accretive, providing long-term fee-based earnings growth. Phillips 66 is also expanding its natural gas gathering and processing footprint with the Dos Picos II plant, expected online in Q3 2025, and the newly announced Iron Mesa plant, expected online in Q1 2027. Both projects are funded within existing capital budgets at low build multiples and support the target of $4.5 billion run rate adjusted EBITDA by 2027.

    04

    Shareholder Returns and Financial Strength

    Phillips 66 returned $716 million to shareholders in Q1 FY25, including $247 million in share repurchases, and increased its quarterly dividend by $0.05 per share. The company aims to return over 50% of net operating cash flow to shareholders and targets a $17 billion absolute debt level by year-end. Management balances shareholder distributions with debt reduction, leveraging strong cash generation and proceeds from asset dispositions.

    05

    Renewable Fuels Challenges and Outlook

    The Renewable Fuels segment faced a "messy" Q1 due to the transition from blenders tax credits to production tax credits, LIFO inventory impacts of $60 million, and non-ratable international credit recognition (no credits in Q1 vs. $50 million in Q4). Management expects more clarity on PTCs by June/July and RVO proposals by late May, with full RVO implementation in Q3. The plant is currently running at reduced rates due to challenged margins, but policy clarity is expected to improve optimization.

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