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    Earnings call· Jun 2025(Q3 FY25)

    ROCKWELL AUTOMATION Q3 FY25 earnings call ROK

    Aug 6, 2025 Source

    Executive summary

    Rockwell Automation Q3 FY25 — Return to Sales Growth & Major Productivity Milestones

    Rockwell Automation returned to year-over-year sales growth in Q3 FY25, exceeding expectations on both sales and adjusted EPS, driven by strong productivity gains. The company announced a significant $2 billion investment over five years in plants, digital infrastructure, and talent to drive future growth and margin expansion. While some customer CapEx projects remain delayed due to trade uncertainty, Rockwell is actively pursuing strategic wins and operational efficiencies to meet its long-term margin targets.

    Highlights

    5

    • Reported sales up 5% year-over-year, with organic sales up over 4%.

    • Achieved full-year productivity goal of $250 million a quarter early, reaching $360 million in structural cost savings over 5 quarters.

    • Adjusted EPS of $2.82 and segment margin of 21.2% both exceeded expectations.

    • Annual recurring revenue grew 7%, driven by double-digit growth in cloud-native software.

    • Software & Control organic sales grew 22% year-over-year, with Logic sales up over 30%.

    Concerns

    5

    • Annual recurring revenue grew 7%, below expectations, due to delays in cybersecurity investments.

    • Lifecycle Services organic sales declined 6% year-over-year due to difficult comparisons and customer delays in larger capital projects.

    • Process Industries sales were down low single digits due to weak global demand and volatile commodity prices.

    • Potential pull-ins of 2-3 points of Q3 growth from Q4 due to trade uncertainty and tariff-based price increases.

    • Intelligent Devices margin decreased by 140 basis points year-over-year to 18.8% due to higher compensation expense.

    Guidance & targets

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    CategoryTargetConfidence
    Full-year FY25 Reported Sales Growth
    positive 1% to negative 2%
    high materiality
    High
    Full-year FY25 Organic Sales Growth
    positive 1% to negative 2%
    high materiality
    High
    Full-year FY25 Annual Recurring Revenue Growth
    high single digits
    medium materiality
    Medium
    Full-year FY25 Segment Margin
    about 20%
    high materiality
    High
    Full-year FY25 Adjusted EPS
    $9.80 to $10.20
    high materiality
    High
    Full-year FY25 Free Cash Flow Conversion
    100%
    medium materiality
    High
    Full-year FY25 Adjusted Effective Tax Rate
    17%
    medium materiality
    High
    Q4 FY25 Sequential Sales Growth
    low single digits
    medium materiality
    Medium
    Q4 FY25 Segment Operating Margins
    similar to Q3
    medium materiality
    Medium
    FY26 Effective Tax Rate
    increase 2 to 3 percentage points
    medium materiality
    High
    FY26 EPS
    headwind
    medium materiality
    High
    CapEx as percentage of sales
    2.5% to 4%
    medium materiality
    Medium
    R&D spending as percentage of sales
    around 6%
    medium materiality
    High

    Segment performance

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    SegmentRevenueYoYQoQMargin
    Intelligent Devices
    Product growth offset configure-to-order decline. Margin decreased by 140 basis points year-over-year due to higher compensation expense against a difficult prior-year comp. Good price realization.
    Double-digit growth in productsDecline in longer-cycle configure-to-order businessSequential incrementals in the 30s from Q2 to Q3
    		—1%—18.8%
    Software & Control
    Driven by strong volume growth in hardware and strong price realization. Margin was up 800 basis points year-over-year.
    Logic sales up over 30% versus prior yearLogic sales up low double digits sequentiallySaaS business grew 10% year-over-yearYear-over-year incrementals in the high 60sSequential incrementals in the mid-40s
    		—22%—31.6%
    Lifecycle Services
    Decline due to difficult year-over-year comparison and customer delays in larger capital projects. Margin was down 600 basis points year-over-year, driven by higher compensation.
    Book-to-bill in this segment was 1.06Book-to-bill above 1.0 across all contributing businessesSmall sequential dollar changes in sales and segment earnings
    		—declined 6%—13.3%

    Operational metrics

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    Segment margin
    21.2%
    Q3 FY25

    above our expectations

    Adjusted EPS
    $2.82
    Q3 FY25

    above our expectations

    Adjusted effective tax rate
    15.2%above prior year rate of 13.3%
    Q3 FY25

    primarily due to lower discrete tax benefits

    Free cash flow conversion
    153%
    Q3 FY25
    Core conversion (EPS)
    $0.35close to 60%
    Q3 FY25

    contributed to EPS on 4% organic sales increase

    All other items (EPS impact)
    $0.09net headwind
    Q3 FY25
    Compensation expense (Q3 EPS impact)
    $0.60tailwind
    Q3 FY25

    Q3 outperformance and higher guidance for the year brings with it increased incentive expense; no annual bonus expense last year

    Compensation expense (Q4 EPS impact)
    $0.30
    Q4 FY25

    expected

    Full year compensation expense
    $230 million
    FY25

    includes merit and bonus

    Currency (EPS impact)
    $0.15headwind
    Q3 FY25

    timing and movement of exchange rates, particularly in Mexico and Poland

    Full year FX impact to sales
    neutral
    FY25

    now expected

    Full year FX impact to EPS
    $0.10headwind
    FY25
    Corporate and other expense
    $155 million
    FY25

    expected

    Net interest expense
    $140 million
    FY25

    expected

    Average diluted shares outstanding
    113 million
    FY25

    assuming

    Share buybacks
    $123 million
    Q3 FY25
    Remaining share repurchase authorization
    $1 billion
    as of June 30
    EPS impact of tariffs
    close to 0
    Q3 FY25

    mitigated through resiliency actions and price increases

    Sales growth from tariff-based pricing
    1 point
    Q3 FY25

    attributable to tariff-based pricing, neutral to EPS

    Cost reduction and margin expansion savings (FY24)
    $110 millionexceeded goal of $100 million
    FY24
    Cost reduction and margin expansion savings (FY25)
    $250 millionmet full year target in 3 quarters
    FY25
    Total structural cost savings
    $360 million
    over 5 quarters
    CapEx as percentage of sales
    2.5% to 4%historically around 2%
    any given year

    ROI-based decisions on brick-and-mortar, digital infrastructure and capital equipment

    R&D spending as percentage of sales
    around 6%
    long-term

    targeted, important to support growth engine

    Incremental margin on sequential sales growth
    low 30ssequential
    Q2 to Q3 FY25
    Reported sales growth
    5%YoY
    Q3 FY25
    Organic sales growth
    4%YoY
    Q3 FY25
    Currency contribution to sales growth
    less than 1 point
    Q3 FY25
    Price contribution to organic growth
    3 points
    Q3 FY25
    Annual recurring revenue growth
    7%YoY
    Q3 FY25

    below expectations

    Cloud-native software growth
    double-digitYoY
    Q3 FY25
    SaaS business growth
    10%YoY
    Q3 FY25
    Potential pull-ins of Q3 growth
    2 to 3 points
    Q3 FY25

    at most, from Q4 due to trade uncertainty and tariff-based price increases

    Discrete sales growth
    10%YoY
    Q3 FY25
    E-commerce and warehouse automation sales growth
    30%YoY
    Q3 FY25
    Hybrid industries sales growth
    high single digitsYoY
    Q3 FY25
    Life Sciences sales growth
    high single digitsYoY
    Q3 FY25
    Process Industries sales growth
    low single digitsdown
    Q3 FY25
    Price realization
    2% plus
    FY25

    expected for full year, includes tariff-based pricing

    Industry KPIs

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    MetricValueDetails
    Book to bill ratioabout 1.0
    Orders bookings growthabout 1.0
    Backlog by segment end market—
    Data center exposure pipelinemore interest
    Incremental flow through marginlow 30s%

    Orderbook & backlog

    2
    Total company book-to-billabout 1.0Q3 FY25

    with year-over-year orders growth in the Americas, EMEA and Asia

    Lifecycle Services book-to-bill1.06Q3 FY25

    above 1.0 across all the contributing businesses

    Deals & partnerships

    9
    FreshpetAutomation for new processing plant

    Chose Rockwell for standardized designs, product interoperability, and a differentiated motor control center offering to help accelerate time to market at their new greenfield facility in Ennis, Texas.

    Incobrasa IndustriesAutomation partner for new facility

    Selected as official automation partner for their new state-of-the-art soybean processing and biodiesel manufacturing facility in Central Illinois.

    Beam TherapeuticsMES software for production automation

    Will use FactoryTalk PharmaSuite MES software to automate production processes and ensure quality control for cell and gene therapies.

    Hancock Iron OreAI-driven predictive maintenance solutions

    Adopting GuardianAI and data mosaics to enhance reliability and performance across their mining operations, working with Kalypso team.

    Hyundai Motor GroupHybrid electric vehicle production expansion

    Brownfield project to help expand hybrid electric vehicle production in Georgia as they transition to a multi-energy production model.

    Lucid MotorsMES for greenfield facility

    Chose FactoryTalk MES for their state-of-the-art greenfield facility in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

    Thermo FisherAccelerate GLP-1 injectables production

    Partnering to help accelerate production of GLP-1 injectables for new capacity expansion by cutting their MES implementation timeline in half.

    Global energy technology companyProcess control solution for hydroelectric project

    PlantPAx process control solution chosen for a hydroelectric project in India as part of the country's push for energy security.

    Leading Middle Eastern national oil companyAutomation and cybersecurity upgrade project

    Chose Sensia joint venture for the region's most strategic automation and cybersecurity upgrade project.

    Capital programs

    1
    Strategic Investment Programannounced$2 billion

    Benefit: grow share, build resilience and expand margins; plant efficiency; fuel highest return offerings; unmatched employee partner and customer experiences

    Inclusive of OpEx and CapEx for plants, digital infrastructure and talent. The United States will be the largest beneficiary. Not all of this $2 billion is incremental, a portion is already built in run rate.

    Risks & headwinds

    7
    Trade uncertainty and geopolitical riskongoing

    U.S. trade policy with some important countries remains uncertain and geopolitical risk remains elevated.

    Mitigation: prudent allowance for pull-ins, strong mitigation plans for tariffs

    Customer delays in larger capital projectsQ3 FY25, ongoing

    customers continue to delay larger capital projects in Q3, waiting for more clarity and certainty around the impact of trade and policy on their input cost and volume.

    Mitigation: focusing on winning available orders, expanding margins

    Weak global demand and volatile commodity pricesQ3 FY25, ongoing

    hampering their ability to invest in Process Industries.

    Mitigation: selectively redirecting capital to highest strategic priorities, including sustainability and modernization goals

    Cybersecurity investment delaysQ3 FY25

    relative weakness in recurring services, mainly driven by delays in cybersecurity investments.

    CapEx delays in automotiveQ3 FY25, ongoing

    Clearpath sales... continue to be affected by CapEx delays in automotive.

    Mitigation: integrating auto AMR platform with overall roadmap for autonomous operations, improving profitability

    Tariff uncertainty causing project delaysQ3 FY25, ongoing

    tariff uncertainty has caused a number of end-user project delays in Life Sciences.

    Mitigation: building strong pipeline of projects, strong software and digital services capabilities

    Increased effective tax rate in FY26FY26

    increase 2 to 3 percentage points in FY26, resulting in an EPS headwind.

    Mitigation: contemplated in future planning

    What to watch in Q4 FY25

    5

    Details of $2 billion investment program

    November (Investor Day)
    CurrentAnnounced $2B investment over 5 years, primarily CapEx, for plants, digital infrastructure, talent.
    TargetScope and milestones tied to investments.

    Why it matters

    Provides clarity on future growth drivers, resilience building, and margin expansion strategy.

    We'll go into more detail on the scope and milestones tied to these investments in November, but it will include thoughtful implementation of automation to drive plant efficiency, talent to fuel our highest return offerings and an AI-first business system to provide unmatched employee partner and customer experiences.

    Q&A highlights

    7

    Is the $2 billion investment a catch-up or an offensive move, and why now?

    Blake Moret stated it's an offensive move to drive future margin expansion beyond current targets. Christian Rothe clarified not all $2 billion is incremental, and investments are ROI-based with double-digit hurdle rates, aiming for the "next horizon" of margin expansion beyond the 23.5% target.

    “Scott, let me start by saying this is solidly on offense.”

    asked by Scott Davis · answered by Blake Moret

    2 min read6 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

    01

    Strategic Investments for Future Growth

    Rockwell Automation plans to invest over $2 billion over the next five years in plants, digital infrastructure, and talent. These investments, primarily CapEx, will largely benefit the United States and are aimed at growing market share, building resilience, and expanding margins, complementing existing productivity programs. The company will provide more details on scope and milestones at its November Investor Day, including automation for plant efficiency, talent for high-return offerings, and an AI-first business system.

    02

    Productivity Program Success

    The company achieved its full-year goal of $250 million in year-over-year productivity a quarter earlier than anticipated, reaching $360 million in structural cost savings over five quarters. This success was driven by broad efforts, initially from SG&A reductions, then direct material and indirect services cost savings, and operational efficiencies. The program will now be operationalized into core reporting, transitioning from an event to a continuous way of life.

    03

    Market Dynamics and Customer Behavior

    While most customers prioritize spending on productivity and efficiency of existing capacity, some are advancing strategic plans for larger CapEx projects, including greenfields. The company noted potential customer pull-ins of 2-3 points of Q3 growth from Q4, primarily in product sales, to mitigate risk from trade uncertainty and secure critical components ahead of tariff-based price increases. Project delays are more prevalent in configure-to-order businesses and Lifecycle Services.

    04

    Vertical Performance Highlights

    Discrete sales grew 10% driven by automotive and e-commerce/warehouse automation, including wins with Hyundai Motor Group for hybrid EV production and Lucid Motors for MES. Hybrid industries saw high single-digit growth, with strong performance in food and beverage, home and personal care, and life sciences, including a partnership with Thermo Fisher for GLP-1 injectables. Process Industries sales were down low single digits, but the company secured wins in hydroelectric projects in India and oil and gas in the Middle East.

    05

    Tariff and Tax Impact

    The net impact from tariffs was minimal in Q3, with about 1 point of organic sales growth attributed to tariff-based pricing, which was EPS neutral. The company expects to mitigate the full-year EPS impact of tariffs through resiliency actions and price increases. While the new U.S. tax bill is not expected to provide significant savings to Rockwell due to its international structure, accelerated depreciation is anticipated to drive investment by small and medium-sized customers, a key segment for Rockwell.

    06

    Segment Margin Trajectory

    The company remains committed to its 23.5% segment margin target and the 22-24% corridor for Intelligent Devices. Sequential improvement in Intelligent Devices margins has been observed, with future improvements expected from direct material cost reductions, pricing on long-tail SKUs, project recovery in configure-to-order, and profitability improvements in Clearpath. Software & Control saw significant margin expansion due to volume growth and strong price realization.

    AI-generated summary of the company’s earnings call. Not investment advice.