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    Earnings call· Mar 2025(Q1 FY25)

    SCHWAB CHARLES Q1 FY25 earnings call SCHW

    Apr 17, 2025 Source

    Executive summary

    Charles Schwab Q1 FY25 — Strong Growth Across Client Metrics and Financials

    Charles Schwab delivered robust Q1 FY25 results, marked by significant client and financial growth, including record net new assets and strong revenue and adjusted EPS expansion. The company is actively investing in its branch network, financial consultants, and digital capabilities to deepen client relationships and drive long-term organic growth, despite an evolving macroeconomic backdrop with shifting interest rate expectations and market volatility. Management remains confident in its diversified model and ability to accelerate profitable growth.

    Highlights

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    • Core net new assets (NNA) grew 44% YoY to $138 billion, representing a 5.5% annualized growth rate.

    • Clients opened 1.2 million new accounts, an 8% increase YoY.

    • Total revenue increased 18% YoY to a record $5.6 billion.

    • Adjusted earnings per share increased 41% YoY to $1.04.

    • Adjusted pretax profit margin expanded over 500 bps YoY to 46.2%.

    Concerns

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    • Lower expected future path of interest rates (3-4 cuts vs. 1 assumed in January) could impact the asset-sensitive model.

    • Lower equity markets and reemerging volatility led to a sequential step-up in client trading activity.

    • A slight risk-off tone from investors in early April, resulting in higher cash growth, slight reduction in margin, and net equity selling.

    Guidance & targets

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    CategoryTargetConfidence
    Revenue and Earnings Expansion
    Strong expansion
    high materiality
    High
    Full-year 2025 Net Interest Margin (NIM)
    2.55% to 2.65%
    high materiality
    High
    Full-year 2025 Adjusted EPS
    Upper end of $4.10 to $4.20 range
    high materiality
    High
    New Branch Openings
    around 16
    medium materiality
    High
    New Financial and Wealth Consultants
    roughly 250
    medium materiality
    High
    Direct Spot Crypto Launch
    Launch
    medium materiality
    High

    Segment performance

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    SegmentRevenueYoYQoQMargin
    Advisor Services
    Continued solid growth story in terms of net new assets.
    19%
    Retail
    Net new assets grew year-over-year, driven by further removal from the Ameritrade integration and increased client satisfaction.
    50%
    Managed Investing Solutions
    Experienced record net flows, with strong contribution from Ameritrade clients.
    Assets under management in holistic wealth solutions: Nearly $500 billion
    15%
    Bank Lending
    Sustained growth in bank lending products.
    Balances: $47.1 billion
    15%

    Operational metrics

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    New Account Openings
    1.2 millionincrease of 8% YoY
    Q1 FY25

    Highest total in several years.

    Total Revenue Growth
    18%YoY
    Q1 FY25

    Total revenue reached a record $5.6 billion.

    Adjusted Earnings Per Share
    $1.04increased 41% YoY
    Q1 FY25

    Reflects the continued positive inflection in Schwab's earnings trajectory.

    Bank Supplemental Funding
    $38.1 billiondown $11.8 billion QoQ, down approximately 60% from peak
    March 31, 2025

    Additional progress made in reducing the level of bank supplemental funding.

    Adjusted Expenses Growth
    8%YoY
    Q1 FY25

    Up 6% versus 4Q FY24, includes typical first quarter seasonality and investments for sustainable organic growth and efficiency.

    Transfer of Assets (TOA) Ratio
    1.5
    Q1 FY25

    For every dollar that leaves Schwab, $1.50 comes from competitors.

    Pledged Asset Line (PAL) Balances
    $47.1 billionincreased 34% YoY
    Q1 FY25

    Supported by strong digital adoption and industry-leading cycle times.

    New-to-Firm Households (Retail)
    up 14%YoY
    Q1 FY25

    Attracting clients across a spectrum of ages and life stages.

    Thinkorswim Adoption
    more than doubledYoY
    last year

    The number of clients who have adopted thinkorswim has more than doubled over the last year.

    Client Log-ins
    500 million
    Q1 FY25

    An all-time record, with the pace continuing and accelerating into Q2.

    Research Consumption
    40x
    April

    40 times the typical consumption seen in early April.

    New Accounts
    2 to 3x
    early April

    New account openings were 2 to 3 times the typical level in early April.

    Client Cash Growth
    higherthan expected
    early April

    Higher levels of cash growth observed in early April, despite tax payments due.

    Client Margin Balances
    slight reduction
    early April

    Slight reduction in margin balances observed in early April.

    Net Equity Selling
    net equity selling
    early April

    Observed net equity selling by investors in early April.

    Adjusted Tier 1 Leverage Ratio
    slightly above upper bound
    Q1 FY25

    The ratio reflects strong earnings and continued pull to par of unrealized marks.

    Common Stock Dividend
    increased
    Q1 FY25

    Increased return of capital due to a previously announced higher common stock dividend.

    Share Repurchase
    $1.5 billion
    Q1 FY25

    Opportunistic share repurchase completed in connection with TD's secondary offering in mid-February.

    Bank Supplemental Funding Paydown
    more challenging to replicate
    Q2 FY25

    Sizable tax-related outflows in Q2 will likely make it more challenging to replicate the level of paydown observed over the past two quarters.

    Securities Portfolio Yield
    sub-2%
    current

    The yield on the current securities portfolio, with reinvestment at current rates being accretive.

    AFS Securities Duration
    around 2 years
    current

    Available-for-sale securities are short-dated, contributing to balance sheet resilience.

    Industry KPIs

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    MetricValueDetails
    Pretax margin46.2%%
    Net interest income21%%

    Product announcements

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    ProductTypeDetails
    Retail Alternativeslaunch
    Discretionary option within Schwab Wealth Advisorylaunch
    24/5 trading capability on thinkorswim platformlaunch
    Schwab Knowledge Assistantlaunch
    Schwab Intelligent Assistantlaunch

    Deals & partnerships

    1
    wealth.comStrategic investment in a leader in digital estate planning.

    The investment was announced yesterday (April 16, 2025).

    Risks & headwinds

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    Lower Expected Future Interest RatesMostly in the back half of the year.

    3-4 25 basis point cuts to the Fed's target rate, compared to 1 cut assumed in January.

    Mitigation: Enhanced balance sheet capabilities, use of simple interest rate swaps to reduce sensitivity to lower rates.

    Market Volatility and Risk-Off SentimentEarly Q2 FY25.

    Lower equity markets, reemerging volatility, higher levels of cash growth, slight reduction in margin, and net equity selling in early April.

    Mitigation: Diversified business model, ability to support clients through volatility, cash pickup offsets margin impact on earnings.

    Tax Disbursement Payments Impact on CashQ2 FY25 (April).

    Expected typical drawdown in client cash due to tax disbursement payments, impacting transactional sweep cash and other liquid cash alternatives.

    Mitigation: Anticipated, but continuation of market volatility could influence client cash allocations.

    Challenge in Supplemental Funding PaydownQ2 FY25.

    Sizable tax-related outflows in Q2 will likely make it more challenging to replicate the level of bank supplemental funding paydown observed over the past two quarters.

    Mitigation: Still expect to make additional progress each quarter until funding is reduced to a level consistent with the diversified long-term funding profile.

    What to watch in Q2 FY25

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    Net Interest Margin (NIM) trajectory

    Next quarter (Q2 FY25) and full year FY25
    CurrentExpanded 20 bps QoQ in Q1 FY25
    TargetMaintain expansion towards 2.55%-2.65% full-year range

    Why it matters

    NIM is a key driver of profitability for Schwab, and its expansion is crucial for earnings growth, especially with evolving rate expectations.

    And under such a scenario, we still expect full year 2025 net interest margin to expand into the 2.55% to 2.65% range.

    Q&A highlights

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    How is the different operating environment in early Q2 impacting brokerage metrics and client behavior?

    April saw historical engagement levels with record trading days and accelerated new account openings, driven by clients buying the dip and seeking full-service models. Overall, a slight "risk-off" tone with higher cash growth, slight margin reduction, and net equity selling, but cash pickup offsets margin impact on earnings.

    April has brought levels of engagement that are historical for us. We saw our 2 highest trading days ever, the Friday before the pausing of the tariffs and then the day that we paused tariffs. We did 14 million trades, an all-time record that day.

    asked by Steven Chubak · answered by Richard Wurster

    2 min read6 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

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    Client Engagement and Growth Momentum

    Schwab experienced significant client engagement in Q1 FY25, with core net new assets growing 44% year-over-year to $138 billion, representing a 5.5% annualized growth rate. New account openings reached 1.2 million, an 8% increase YoY. This momentum was driven by strong performance across Advisor Services, a 50% YoY increase in retail NNA as the Ameritrade integration matured, and a record quarter in the workplace business. Client satisfaction, particularly among legacy Ameritrade clients, also saw notable improvement.

    02

    Financial Performance and Earnings Trajectory

    The company delivered strong financial results, with total revenue increasing 18% YoY to a record $5.6 billion and adjusted earnings per share rising 41% YoY to $1.04. Adjusted pretax profit margin expanded by over 500 basis points to 46.2%. This performance reflects the positive inflection in Schwab's earnings trajectory and the durability of its diversified model, even amidst market uncertainty🌐.

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    Strategic Investments for Long-Term Growth

    Schwab is playing offense by investing in key areas to drive growth and efficiency. This includes expanding its branch footprint with approximately 16 new branches and hiring around 250 new financial and wealth consultants in FY25. The company is also enhancing its digital capabilities, including AI-powered tools, and investing in marketing to attract new clients and deepen existing relationships, particularly with higher net worth retail clients.

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    Balance Sheet Management and Capital Return

    Schwab continued to reduce its higher-cost bank supplemental funding, bringing the outstanding balance down by $11.8 billion in Q1 FY25 to $38.1 billion, a 60% reduction from its peak. The firm's capital levels finished slightly above the upper bound of its adjusted Tier 1 leverage objective of 6.75% to 7%. Management expressed confidence in returning capital through dividends and opportunistic buybacks, especially after a pending decision on its Series G preferred shares.

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    Evolving Market Conditions and Outlook

    The macroeconomic backdrop has shifted since January, with expectations for more Fed rate cuts (3-4 vs. 1 previously assumed) and lower equity markets, alongside increased client trading activity due to volatility. Despite these moving parts, Schwab expects full-year 2025 net interest margin to expand to 2.55%-2.65% and is tracking towards the upper end of its previously guided adjusted EPS range of $4.10-$4.20. The company plans to provide a more comprehensive update in July.

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    Alternative Investments and Crypto Strategy

    Schwab is expanding its alternative investment platform, now available to retail clients with over $5 million in household assets, aiming to meet demand from higher net worth and advisor clients. The firm also plans to launch direct spot crypto trading within the next 12 months, building on existing robust engagement with crypto ETFs, closed-end funds, and Bitcoin futures, and leveraging a changing regulatory environment.

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