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    Earnings call· Dec 2024(Q4 FY24)

    SIMON PROPERTY GROUP INC. SPG

    Feb 4, 2025 Source

    Executive summary

    Simon Property Group Q4 FY24 — Record FFO and Shareholder Returns, Strong Leasing Momentum

    Simon Property Group concluded an exceptional year with record FFO and shareholder returns, driven by strong leasing activity and occupancy gains. The company is strategically investing in its portfolio, including the acquisition of Italian luxury outlets and planned mixed-use developments, while maintaining a strong balance sheet. Management anticipates continued organic growth, though initial FY25 guidance reflects conservative assumptions and higher interest expenses.

    Highlights

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    • Reported record total FFO of $4.9 billion or $12.99 per share for FY24.

    • Generated $4.6 billion in real estate FFO or $12.24 per share for FY24, representing 3.9% year-over-year growth.

    • Returned a record of more than $3 billion to shareholders in cash dividends for FY24.

    • Signed a record 5,500 leases for more than 21 million square feet in FY24.

    • Malls and outlet occupancy reached 96.5% at year-end, a 70 basis point increase year-over-year and the highest level in 8 years.

    Concerns

    4

    • Real estate FFO guidance for FY25 of $12.40 to $12.65 per share implies a potential slowdown compared to FY24's $12.24, despite a strong prior year.

    • Increased net interest expense is expected to negatively impact FY25 FFO by $0.25 to $0.30 per share.

    • The company remains nervous about the lower-end consumer and potential impacts from a strong dollar on tourist centers.

    • Predevelopment costs associated with a joint venture development project in California were written off in Q4 FY24.

    Guidance & targets

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    CategoryTargetConfidence
    Real estate FFO per share
    $12.40 to $12.65
    high materiality
    High
    Domestic property NOI growth
    at least 3%
    high materiality
    High
    Net interest expense increase
    $0.25 to $0.30 per share
    medium materiality
    High
    Diluted share count
    approximately 377 million shares and units outstanding
    low materiality
    High
    Catalyst Brands EBITDA
    positive
    medium materiality
    High
    Catalyst Brands FFO
    roughly breakeven
    medium materiality
    Medium
    Mixed-use projects to begin construction
    4 to 5
    medium materiality
    High

    Segment performance

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    SegmentRevenueYoYQoQMargin
    Malls and Outlets
    Year-end occupancy is the highest level over the last 8 years.
    Occupancy rate: 96.5%Occupancy rate YoY increase: 70 bpsAverage base minimum rent increase YoY: 2.5%
    		————
    The Mills
    Occupancy is at a record level.
    Occupancy rate: 98.8%Occupancy rate YoY increase: 1%Average base minimum rent increase YoY: 4.3%
    		————
    Domestic Properties
    NOI growth for the quarter.
    		—4.4%——
    Domestic Properties
    NOI growth for the full year.
    		—4.7%——
    Portfolio (including international properties)
    NOI growth for the quarter at constant currency.
    		—4.5%——
    Portfolio (including international properties)
    NOI growth for the full year at constant currency.
    		—4.6%——

    Operational metrics

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    Total Funds From Operation (FFO)
    $4.9B
    FY24

    Record total FFO.

    Total Funds From Operation (FFO) per share
    $12.99
    FY24

    Record total FFO per share.

    Real Estate FFO
    $4.6B
    FY24

    Generated real estate FFO.

    Real Estate FFO per share
    $12.243.9% year-over-year growth
    FY24

    Real estate FFO per share for the full year.

    Real Estate FFO per share
    $3.353.7% growth vs prior year
    Q4 FY24

    Compared to $3.23 in Q4 prior year.

    Domestic and international operations contribution to FFO growth
    $0.18
    Q4 FY24

    Contributed to FFO growth in the quarter.

    Shareholder returns (dividends)
    $3B
    FY24

    Record amount returned to shareholders in cash dividends.

    Cumulative dividends paid to shareholders
    $45B
    Historical

    Approximately $45 billion paid over company history as a public company.

    Leases signed
    1,500
    Q4 FY24

    Leasing momentum continued across the portfolio.

    Leases signed
    5,500
    FY24

    Record number of leases signed for the year.

    New deals as percentage of leasing activity
    25%
    FY24

    Approximately 25% of leasing activity for the year were new deals.

    Retailer sales per square foot
    $739
    FY24

    For the full year.

    Operating margin increase
    100year-over-year
    FY24

    Resulted from strong revenue growth and expense discipline.

    Occupancy cost
    13%
    FY24

    At the end of the year.

    Funds from operation
    $1.39Bvs $1.38B prior year
    Q4 FY24

    Fourth quarter funds from operation.

    Funds from operation per share
    $3.68vs $3.69 prior year
    Q4 FY24

    Fourth quarter funds from operation per share.

    Noncash after-tax gain from JCPenney and SPARC Group combination
    $0.20
    Q4 FY24

    Included in Q4 results.

    Klepierre's exchangeable bonds mark-to-market fair value
    increased year-over-year
    Q4 FY24

    Offset lower contribution from OPI operations.

    Gain from sale of ABG interest (prior year)
    $0.33
    Q4 FY23

    Included in prior year results.

    Financing activities completed
    $11B
    FY24

    Included issuing $1 billion in senior notes and recasting $3.5 billion revolving credit facility.

    Senior notes issued
    $1B
    FY24

    Part of financing activities.

    Revolving credit facility recasted
    $3.5B
    FY24

    Part of financing activities.

    Secured loan refinancings and extensions
    $6B
    FY24

    Completed over $6 billion.

    Deleveraging
    $1.5B
    FY24

    Deleveraged the balance sheet by approximately $1.5 billion.

    Net debt to EBITDA
    5.2x
    FY24

    Ended the year at 5.2x net debt to EBITDA.

    Liquidity
    $10B
    FY24

    More than $10 billion of liquidity at year-end.

    Dividend per share
    $2.107.7% year-over-year increase
    Q1 FY25

    Payable on March 31.

    Predevelopment costs write-off
    —
    Q4 FY24

    Associated with a joint venture development project in California, partially offset by a tax benefit from asset sales.

    Catalyst Brands sourcing from China
    20%
    Current

    Only 20% of goods sourced from China across all brands.

    Month-to-month leases
    5%
    Year-end

    Slightly above pre-COVID levels, expected to come down as renewals are signed.

    B mall investment return
    12%
    Next couple of years

    Expected return for a renovated, rejuvenated asset like Smith Haven, driven by replacing empty boxes/spaces.

    Orderbook & backlog

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    S&O (Signed-not-commenced) pipeline250 bpsYear-end

    As occupancy was brought on in Q4. Expected to come down throughout the year as leases are renewed and signed.

    Deals & partnerships

    4
    KeringAcquisition of two luxury outlet centers in Italy.

    Acquired a mall and two well-known luxury outlet centers. Kering will remain a long-term tenant. Simon has taken over the existing management team.

    JCPenney and SPARC GroupCombination to form Catalyst Brands.

    Catalyst Brands brings together SPARC's brands (Aeropostale, Brooks Brothers, Eddie Bauer, Lucky, Nautica) with JCPenney and its private brands. Shareholders include Simon, Brookfield, Authentic Brands Group, and Shein.

    Catalyst BrandsSale of Reebok operating business.

    Reebok was sold in early January. This reduces exposure to potential tariffs on shoes.

    Catalyst BrandsEvaluation of strategic options for Forever 21.

    Catalyst is currently evaluating strategic options for Forever 21.

    Capital programs

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    Mixed-use projectsunderway
    Period spend: $400M-$500M
    Funding: internally generated cash flow
    Start: FY25

    Benefit: residential, hotel, office components

    Expected to begin construction on 4 to 5 projects throughout the year. Primarily JVs. Examples include a hotel in Roosevelt Field, residential in Brea, office at Clearfork, and hotel expansion at The Domain in Austin.

    Smith Haven renovationunderway

    Benefit: updated look and feel, new retailer (Primark), health facility

    Renovate and rejuvenate the property, adding a great retailer and a huge box. Expected to yield a 12% return.

    Risks & headwinds

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    Increased net interest expenseFY25

    $0.25 to $0.30 per share

    Mitigation: Reflected in FY25 FFO guidance.

    Tariffs and de minimis ruleOngoing

    Potential impact on retailers

    Mitigation: Many retailers have moved production out of China; removal of the de minimis rule would be a significant positive for American retailers.

    Construction costs in Southern CaliforniaNear-term

    Horrific events driving up costs

    Mitigation: Looking at accelerating planned projects in California to mitigate rising costs.

    Lower-end consumer sentimentOngoing

    Nervousness

    Mitigation: Company is bullish on upper to high-end consumer, but remains concerned about the lower end.

    Strong dollar impact on tourist centersFY25

    Potential impact on foreign earnings translation

    Mitigation: Not yet seen real-time impact, but expect potential impact if dollar strength continues.

    What to watch in Q1 FY25

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    Domestic property NOI growth

    FY25
    Current4.7% (FY24)
    Targetabove 3% guidance

    Why it matters

    To assess if Simon can continue to outperform its conservative NOI growth guidance, indicating strong underlying operational performance.

    Our guidance reflects the following assumptions: domestic property NOI growth of at least 3%;

    Q&A highlights

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    Given strong leasing and occupancy, why is FY25 NOI growth guided at 3% when it's been over 4% for years? How is pricing power evolving?

    Management budgets conservatively with flat sales assumptions, which impacts overage rent. The 3% guidance is a baseline, often beaten. Pricing power is reframed as improving tenant mix by replacing underperforming retailers with new ones, driving rent growth. Upside in occupancy is still expected, aiming for the 2014 record high of 97.1%.

    “So what's driving a lot of what we do is we're able to take the retailers that aren't doing the sales and replace them with ones that will, and that -- because they'll do better volume, that drives rent growth.”

    asked by Steve Sakwa · answered by David Simon

    2 min read6 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

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    Strategic Acquisitions and Global Expansion

    Simon Property Group completed the acquisition of two luxury outlet centers in Italy from Kering, integrating these high-quality assets into its global portfolio. This move aligns with the company's strategy of acquiring top-tier properties at favorable prices, with management expecting the deal to be NAV and earnings accretive. The company also opened a new Premium Outlet in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and plans to open its first Premium Outlets in Jakarta, Indonesia, in March, signaling continued international growth.

    02

    Development and Redevelopment Pipeline

    The company completed 16 significant redevelopment projects in FY24 and sees growing opportunities in this area. For FY25, Simon plans to begin construction on 4 to 5 mixed-use projects, primarily JVs, with an expected pro rata spend of $400 million to $500 million. These projects will include residential, hotel, and office components, such as a hotel in Roosevelt Field and a large residential project in Brea. Management is also considering accelerating projects in Southern California due to rising construction costs.

    03

    Catalyst Brands and Platform Investments

    JCPenney and SPARC Group combined to form Catalyst Brands, a portfolio including Aeropostale, Brooks Brothers, Eddie Bauer, Lucky, Nautica, and JCPenney. Simon is a shareholder in Catalyst, alongside Brookfield, Authentic Brands Group, and Shein. Catalyst sold Reebok in January and is evaluating strategic options for Forever 21. Management views this transaction as positive, expecting significant synergies and positive EBITDA for Catalyst in FY25, though FFO is projected to be roughly breakeven initially.

    04

    Marketing and Customer Engagement

    Simon Property Group is actively investing in marketing initiatives to drive traffic to its properties. These include national advertising campaigns promoting the mall experience, rebranding Simon Premium Outlets to ShopSimon, and developing a loyalty program. The company hosts thousands of events throughout the year, leveraging digital media and data to demonstrate a strong return on investment. These efforts aim to enhance the appeal of its properties and differentiate them from competitors.

    05

    Focus on B Mall Investments

    Following significant progress in its larger 'A' assets, Simon is re-energizing its focus on 'B' malls and other domestic properties in FY25 and FY26. Investments in these assets will involve a combination of adding new tenants, updating aesthetics, and introducing restaurants and other uses. The expected returns on these investments, such as a 12% return on a project at Smith Haven, are often driven by replacing empty boxes or spaces with no existing income, making the incremental return highly accretive.

    06

    Balance Sheet Strength and Capital Allocation

    The company maintains an A-rated balance sheet with over $10 billion in liquidity at year-end, providing significant capacity for future growth. In FY24, Simon completed $11 billion in financing activities, including issuing $1 billion in senior notes and recasting its $3.5 billion revolving credit facility, while deleveraging by approximately $1.5 billion. Management plans to continue a balanced capital allocation strategy, including redevelopments, potential stock buybacks, and dividend increases, without a large-scale acquisition currently on the horizon.

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