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    Earnings call· Mar 2025(Q2 FY25)

    TransDigm Group Q2 FY25 earnings call TDG

    May 6, 2025 Source

    Executive summary

    TransDigm Group Q2 FY25 — Strong Aftermarket and Defense Growth Amidst CEO Transition

    TransDigm delivered a strong Q2 FY25, marked by robust commercial aftermarket and defense growth, while commercial OEM remained flat. The company reaffirmed its full-year guidance, citing conservatism and a mix shift towards lower-margin OEM in the second half. A significant leadership transition was announced, with Kevin Stein retiring and Mike Lisman appointed as the new CEO, signaling continuity in the company's value-creation strategy and disciplined capital allocation, including opportunistic share repurchases and an active M&A pipeline.

    Highlights

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    • Q2 FY25 organic revenue growth of 7% driven by commercial aftermarket and defense.

    • Commercial aftermarket revenue increased by approximately 13% YoY, with strong bookings outpacing sales.

    • Defense market revenue grew by approximately 9% YoY, with bookings significantly outpacing sales.

    • EBITDA as defined margin reached 54% in Q2 FY25, reflecting strong commercial aftermarket performance and operational focus.

    • Opportunistically deployed $180 million in share repurchases in Q2 and early April, acquiring approximately 140,000 shares at an average price of $1,245 per share.

    Concerns

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    • Commercial OEM revenues were about flat year-over-year in Q2 FY25, with softness driven by biz jet and helicopter submarkets.

    • Full-year FY25 financial guidance was maintained despite strong Q2 results, implying a step-down in margins for the second half due to conservatism and mix shift.

    • Boeing aircraft production rates remain well below pre-pandemic levels, with supply chain and labor challenges persisting as primary bottlenecks.

    Guidance & targets

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    CategoryTargetConfidence
    Full-year FY25 Revenue
    $8.85 billion
    high materiality
    High
    Full-year FY25 Commercial OEM Revenue Growth
    low single-digit to mid-single-digit percentage range
    medium materiality
    Medium
    Full-year FY25 Defense Revenue Growth
    high single-digit to low double-digit percentage range
    medium materiality
    Medium
    Full-year FY25 Commercial Aftermarket Revenue Growth
    high single-digit to low double-digit growth
    high materiality
    High
    Full-year FY25 EBITDA as defined
    $4.685 billion
    high materiality
    High
    Full-year FY25 Adjusted EPS
    $36.47
    high materiality
    High
    Full-year FY25 Free Cash Flow
    approximately $2.3 billion
    high materiality
    High

    Segment performance

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    SegmentRevenueYoYQoQMargin
    Commercial OEM
    Supply chain and labor challenges persist but continue to improve. Aircraft production backlogs are large, with supply chains remaining the primary bottleneck. Guidance contains appropriate risk around MAX production build rate.
    Bookings: slightly down YoY (driven by biz jet and helicopter submarkets)Commercial transport bookings: roughly in line with expectations, low single-digit growthBoeing 737 MAX production rate: around 30 per month (implied)
    		about flatabout flat17%—
    Commercial Aftermarket
    All submarkets experienced positive growth. No material weakness in order book despite airline announcements of potential capacity reductions. Monitoring bookings closely for economic softening.
    Bookings: strong, outpacing salesQ2 point-of-sales data (through distribution partners): up significantly, well into double digitsSubmarket growth: Business jet, freight, interior stronger than 13% total; passenger slightly belowEngine content operating units: very solid growth, well in excess of 13% overall
    		—13%——
    Defense Market
    Defense sales and bookings can be lumpy, but current trends support full-year revenue growth expectations.
    Growth distribution: well distributed across businesses and customer baseOEM and Aftermarket components: similar rates of growth, OEM slightly aheadBookings: significantly outpaced sales for the quarter and year-to-dateU.S. government defense spend outlays: continued growth
    		—9%——

    Operational metrics

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    EBITDA as defined margin
    54%
    Q2 FY25

    Contributed to strong Q2 margin with continued strength in commercial aftermarket and diligent focus on operating strategy.

    Margin dilution from recent acquisitions
    70compared to FY24
    FY25

    Included in full-year FY25 EBITDA guidance.

    Organic Growth Rate
    7%
    Q2 FY25

    Driven by commercial aftermarket and defense market channels.

    Net Working Capital Consumption
    $190 million
    Q2 FY25

    Due to higher AR for Q2 shipments and higher inventory plans in the back half of the year.

    Cash Balance
    $2.4 billion
    Q2 FY25 end

    Provides significant liquidity and financial flexibility.

    Net Debt-to-EBITDA Ratio
    5.1xdown from 5.3x at end of last quarter
    Q2 FY25 end

    Currently at the low end of the comfortable operating range.

    EBITDA to Interest Expense Coverage Ratio
    3.4x
    Q2 FY25 end

    Provides comfortable cushion versus target range.

    Gross Debt Balance
    $25 billion
    Q2 FY25 end

    Nearest term maturity is November 2027.

    Share Repurchases
    $50 million
    Q2 FY25

    Opportunistically deployed via open market repurchases.

    Share Repurchases
    $130 million
    early April 2025

    Deployed after quarter end during depressed stock price.

    Total Share Repurchases
    $500 million
    YTD FY25

    Combined with Q1 repurchases.

    Global Revenue Passenger Miles (RPKs) Growth
    3.3%versus prior year
    March 2025

    Growth rate improved slightly versus February.

    Available Seat Kilometers (ASKs) Growth
    5.3%
    March 2025
    Passenger Load Factor
    81%
    March 2025
    IATA Traffic Forecast
    113%of 2019 levels
    2025

    Some forecasters predict a couple of points lower growth rate.

    Domestic Air Traffic Growth
    1%compared to 2024
    March 2025

    Continues to surpass pre-pandemic levels.

    International Air Traffic Growth
    4.9%compared to 2024
    March 2025

    Continues to trend upwards, above pre-pandemic levels for several months.

    Industry KPIs

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    MetricValueDetails
    Total company backlogconsiderable
    Production rates by programaround 30aircraft per month

    Orderbook & backlog

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    Commercial OEM Bookingsslightly downQ2 FY25

    YoY

    Softness driven by biz jet and helicopter submarkets. Commercial transport bookings roughly in line with expectations.

    Commercial Aftermarket BookingsstrongQ2 FY25

    outpacing sales

    Running ahead of expectations, supporting full-year growth outlook. Continued strength into April.

    Defense Bookingssignificantly outpaced salesQ2 FY25

    for the quarter and year-to-date

    Supports full-year guidance for defense revenue growth.

    Aircraft Production Backlogs (OEMs)largeQ2 FY25

    Supply chains remain the primary bottleneck in the OEM production ramp-up.

    Deals & partnerships

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    Boeing (Jeppesen business)Evaluation of potential acquisition of Jeppesen business from Boeing.

    TransDigm was very serious in evaluating Jeppesen due to its fit with their strategy (high aftermarket content, proprietary products). However, the company maintained its disciplined approach to M&A and did not overvalue or pay up, leading to the decision not to acquire.

    Risks & headwinds

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    OEM Production BottlenecksBalance of FY25

    Boeing aircraft production rates still well below pre-pandemic levels.

    Mitigation: OEM supply chain and labor challenges continue to improve; TransDigm operating units are well positioned to support higher production rates as they occur.

    Macroeconomic Environment / Economic RecessionFiscal 2025

    Potential for weakening economic environment; several airlines announced potential capacity reductions for CY25.

    Mitigation: TransDigm is closely monitoring the economic environment; currently seeing no material weakness in commercial aftermarket order book; ready to be nimble and react to cost structure if downturn occurs.

    Tariff HeadwindsFiscal 2025

    Impact of recently enacted U.S. and non-U.S. tariffs.

    Mitigation: Do not anticipate a material headwind; largely domestic manufacturer with limited exposure to low-cost country sources; operating units driving actions like USMCA exemptions, cost reduction, supply chain resourcing.

    Lumpiness in Defense Sales and BookingsQuarterly

    Forecasting defense sales and bookings with accuracy and precision, especially on a quarterly basis, is quite difficult.

    Mitigation: Recognized as an inherent characteristic of the defense market; overall trend is strong with bookings outpacing sales.

    What to watch in Q3 FY25

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    Commercial Aftermarket Bookings Trend

    Next quarter
    CurrentStrong, outpacing sales, continued strength into April
    TargetMaintain current pace or higher

    Why it matters

    Bookings are a leading indicator for commercial aftermarket revenue, which is a key driver of TransDigm's profitability. Any decline could signal economic softening.

    As mentioned, we're monitoring our commercial aftermarket bookings rates closely and should these booking rates decline from what we are seeing at present as a result of economic softening and ensuing airline schedule reductions, we will revise our guidance accordingly on future earnings calls.

    Q&A highlights

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    Asked about the rumored interest in Jeppesen and why the deal didn't close, and whether price increases would be used to mitigate tariff costs.

    Kevin Stein confirmed serious interest in Jeppesen due to its fit with TransDigm's criteria (high aftermarket content, proprietary products) but emphasized strict discipline on valuation, leading to saying no. On tariffs, he stated the impact is small and all value drivers are in play, but they are not currently concerned about material impact.

    “But we must stay disciplined in our approach to ensure we continue to drive the returns our shareholders have expected from us. And that means sometimes you have to say no to deals.”

    asked by Robert Stallard · answered by Kevin Stein

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    Detailed Narrative

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    CEO Succession and Leadership Continuity

    Kevin Stein announced his retirement effective end of FY25, with Mike Lisman, current Co-COO, appointed as the new CEO starting October 1, 2025. This internal promotion reflects a long-term succession plan and is expected to maintain TransDigm's unique culture, operating methodology, and value-generating strategy. Mike Lisman has a long tenure, including roles as CFO and head of M&A, ensuring continuity in the company's strategic direction.

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    Strategic Focus and Value Creation

    TransDigm reiterates its consistent strategy centered on proprietary aerospace products with significant aftermarket content, a decentralized structure, and a unique compensation system aligned with shareholders. The company aims to deliver private equity-like returns with public market liquidity, emphasizing disciplined capital allocation and a focus on intrinsic shareholder value through all phases of the aerospace cycle.

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    Q2 FY25 Performance Overview

    The company reported a strong Q2 FY25 with healthy revenue growth in commercial aftermarket and defense channels. Commercial OEM revenues were flat year-over-year but improved sequentially. EBITDA as defined margin reached 54%, driven by aftermarket strength and diligent operational focus. The quarter ended with a robust cash balance of over $2.4 billion, providing significant liquidity.

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    Capital Allocation Priorities

    TransDigm's capital allocation priorities remain unchanged: reinvestment in businesses, accretive and disciplined M&A, and returning capital to shareholders via share repurchases or dividends. The company views share repurchases as opportunistic capital investments, deploying $180 million in Q2 and early April, and continues to evaluate all options while monitoring capital markets.

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    M&A Environment and Discipline

    The M&A pipeline is expanding, primarily with small and mid-size targets. Management emphasized a disciplined approach, exemplified by their decision not to overpay for the Jeppesen business, even though it fit their strategic criteria. The company remains confident in a long runway for suitable acquisitions, despite aggressive multiples seen in the market.

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    Tariff Impact and Mitigation

    TransDigm does not anticipate a material headwind from tariffs, as it is largely a domestic manufacturer with limited exposure to low-cost country sourcing. Operating units are implementing various mitigation measures, including USMCA exemptions, cost reduction initiatives, and supply chain resourcing, to alleviate any potential negative impacts.

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