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    Earnings call· Sep 2025(Q3 FY25)

    TRAVELERS COMPANIES, INC. TRV

    Oct 16, 2025 Source

    Executive summary

    The Travelers Companies, Inc. Q3 FY25 — Excellent Underwriting and Strong Investment Income Drive Record Profitability

    Travelers delivered an excellent quarter, marked by robust underwriting profitability and strong investment income, leading to record core earnings and a high return on equity. The company is leveraging its strong financial position to return significant capital to shareholders while continuing strategic investments in technology and AI, positioning it for long-term profitable growth despite market uncertainties and disciplined underwriting in certain lines.

    Highlights

    5
    • Core income of $1.9 billion and diluted EPS of $8.14, with a core return on equity of 22.6% for the quarter.

    • Underwriting income more than doubled to $1.4 billion pretax, driven by a 1.7 point improvement in the underlying combined ratio to an exceptional 83.9%.

    • After-tax net investment income increased 15% to $850 million, supported by a growing fixed income portfolio.

    • Adjusted book value per share grew 15% year-over-year to $150.55.

    • Operating cash flows reached a new record of $4.2 billion, enabling significant capital return to shareholders.

    Concerns

    3
    • Net written premiums in Business Insurance's National Property line declined due to disciplined underwriting, impacting overall segment growth.

    • Personal Insurance net written premium growth was reduced by 1 point due to ceded premium impact from an enhanced reinsurance program.

    • New business in Bond & Specialty was lower than the prior year due to Corvus production now being reflected as renewal premium.

    Guidance & targets

    13
    CategoryTargetConfidence
    Expense ratio
    around 28.5%
    medium materiality
    High
    Expense ratio
    around 28.5%
    medium materiality
    High
    After-tax fixed income net investment income
    $810 million
    high materiality
    High
    After-tax fixed income net investment income
    more than $3.3 billion
    high materiality
    High
    After-tax fixed income net investment income (Q1 FY26)
    around $810 million
    medium materiality
    High
    After-tax fixed income net investment income (Q4 FY26)
    around $885 million
    medium materiality
    High
    Share repurchases
    roughly $1.3 billion
    high materiality
    High
    Share repurchases from Canadian operations sale
    $700 million
    high materiality
    High
    Total share repurchases
    around $3.5 billion
    high materiality
    High
    Share count reduction
    about 5%
    high materiality
    High
    Homeowners Renewal Premium Change (RPC)
    remain elevated
    medium materiality
    High
    Homeowners Renewal Premium Change (RPC)
    drop into single digits
    medium materiality
    High
    Domestic Auto Renewal Premium Change (RPC)
    continue to decline
    medium materiality
    High

    Segment performance

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    SegmentRevenueYoYQoQMargin
    Business Insurance
    Achieved record third quarter segment income and maintained an underlying combined ratio below 90% for the 12th consecutive quarter. Growth was led by middle market and select businesses, while national property saw declines due to disciplined underwriting. Pricing remained attractive across lines, with strong retention.
    Combined ratio: 92.9%Underlying combined ratio: 88.3%Domestic NWP ex-property growth: >6%Renewal premium change: 7.1%Renewal premium change ex-property: 9%Renewal rate change ex-property: 6.7%Retention: 85%New business: $673 million
    $5.7 billion3%$907 million
    Business Insurance - Select
    Experienced slight tick up in retention as targeted CMP risk-return optimization efforts near completion. New BOP and auto products, along with the Travis digital platform, are contributing to profitable growth.
    Renewal premium change: 10.8%New business: $134 million (up 3% YoY)
    4%
    Business Insurance - Middle Market
    Achieved highest ever third quarter new business, with price increases remaining broad-based and excellent granular execution. Underwriting workstation enhancements aid in assessing new business opportunities for lifetime profitability.
    Renewal premium change: 8.3%Retention: 88%New business: $391 million (up 7% YoY)
    7%
    Bond & Specialty Insurance
    Delivered strong results with an outstanding combined ratio. Renewal premium change improved in management liability due to intentional pricing initiatives. New business was lower due to Corvus production shifting to renewals. Digital investments are driving account growth and sales effectiveness.
    Combined ratio: 81.6%Underlying combined ratio: 85.8%Management Liability renewal premium change: 3.7%Management Liability retention: 87%New lines of business sold to existing customers (private/nonprofit): up 40% YoY
    $1.1 billion$250 million
    Personal Insurance
    Achieved excellent segment income, reflecting disciplined risk management. Combined ratio improved significantly due to lower catastrophe losses and an improved underlying combined ratio. Focus on improving homeowners profitability and seeking auto growth.
    Combined ratio: 81.3%Underlying combined ratio: 77.7%NWP growth reduction from ceded premium: 1 point
    $4.7 billion$807 million
    Personal Insurance - Auto
    Very strong combined ratio driven by lower catastrophe losses, strong underlying results, and favorable PYD. Improvement in underlying combined ratio from favorable loss experience in bodily injury and vehicle coverages. Q4 underlying loss ratio historically 6-7 points higher.
    Underlying combined ratio: 88.3%Underlying combined ratio (YTD): 88.3%Retention: 82%Renewal premium change: 3.9%New business premium: up YoY (4th consecutive quarter)
    84.9%
    Personal Insurance - Homeowners and Other
    Combined ratio improved significantly due to lower catastrophe losses and underlying combined ratio improvement. Favorable year-over-year results related to earned pricing and favorable non-catastrophe weather. RPC remains strong due to aligning replacement costs with insured values.
    Underlying combined ratio: 68%Retention: 84%Renewal premium change: 18%
    78%

    Operational metrics

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    Core return on equity
    22.6
    Q3 FY25

    Core return on equity for the quarter.

    Core return on equity (TTM)
    18.7
    TTM Q3 FY25

    Core return on equity for the trailing 12 months.

    Underwriting income
    1.4more than doubled compared to prior year
    Q3 FY25

    Pretax underwriting income.

    After-tax underlying underwriting income
    1increased 18%
    Q3 FY25

    Surpassed $1 billion for the fifth consecutive quarter.

    Expense ratio
    28.6
    Q3 FY25

    Company-wide expense ratio for the quarter.

    Expense ratio (YTD)
    28.5
    YTD Q3 FY25

    Company-wide expense ratio year-to-date.

    Adjusted book value per share
    150.55up 15% YoY, up 8% YTD
    Q3 FY25

    Adjusted book value per share at quarter end, excluding net unrealized investment gains and losses.

    Holding company liquidity
    2.8
    Q3 FY25

    Liquidity held at the holding company level.

    Net unrealized investment loss
    2decreased from $3B after tax at June 30
    Q3 FY25

    After-tax net unrealized investment loss, decreased due to lower interest rates.

    Capital returned to shareholders
    878
    Q3 FY25

    Total capital returned to shareholders, comprising share repurchases and dividends.

    Share repurchases
    628
    Q3 FY25

    Amount of share repurchases executed during the quarter.

    Dividends
    250
    Q3 FY25

    Amount of dividends paid during the quarter.

    Investment portfolio growth
    4
    Q3 FY25

    Growth in the investment portfolio during the quarter.

    Investment portfolio size
    100up nearly 50% since 2016
    Q3 FY25

    Transcription note: 'million' was stated, but context strongly suggests 'billion' given the company's scale and other financial figures.

    Fixed income portfolio composition
    90
    Q3 FY25

    Percentage of the investment portfolio in fixed income.

    Fixed income average credit rating
    AA
    Q3 FY25

    Average credit rating of the fixed income portfolio.

    New money rates vs portfolio yield
    70-75above
    Q3 FY25

    New money rates as of September 30 compared to the yield embedded in the portfolio.

    Technology spend
    1.5
    annually

    Annual spending on technology, with a lot focused on AI.

    Data points for AI
    65
    historical

    Clean data points from decades of history used to power AI.

    Expense ratio reduction
    300
    since 2016

    Reduction in expense ratio achieved since 2016.

    Florida auto business as % of PI auto
    10
    Q3 FY25

    Florida auto business represents less than 10% of the total Personal Insurance auto business.

    Florida PI auto business as % of overall premium
    1.5
    Q3 FY25

    Florida Personal Insurance auto business represents 1.5% of Travelers' overall premium.

    Industry KPIs

    10
    MetricValueDetails
    Combined ratio83.9%%
    Capital returns$878 millionUSD
    ROE operating ROE22.6%%
    Catastrophe losses$402 millionUSD
    Book value per share$150.55USD
    Net investment income$850 millionUSD
    Retention persistency85%%
    Net premiums written earned$11.5 billionUSD
    Renewal rate change pricing7.1%%
    Prior year reserve development$22 millionUSD

    Product announcements

    4
    ProductTypeDetails
    New BOP and Auto Productslaunch
    Travis Digital Experience Platformexpansion
    Underwriting Workstationupdate
    Predictive Analytics and AI in Private and Nonprofit Businessupdate

    Deals & partnerships

    1
    UndisclosedSale of Canadian operations$700 million

    Travelers plans to deploy approximately $700 million from the sale of its Canadian operations for additional share repurchases.

    Risks & headwinds

    5
    Declining premium volume in large account property marketcurrent quarter and prior quarters

    declining premium volume

    Mitigation: won't compromise our underwriting discipline; the value of that discipline will become unmistakable over time.

    Economic, political, and geopolitical uncertaintiesahead (2026 planning)

    unquantified

    Mitigation: very confident that we're built and very well positioned for whatever lies ahead; operating from a position of considerable strength.

    Loss environment (weather volatility, social inflation)ongoing

    unquantified

    Mitigation: no one is better positioned; diversification provides powerful protection; demonstrated ability to confront the loss environment head on with data, analytics, and discipline.

    Tariffs impacting auto severitycurrent and future

    small impact in Q3, well below single-digit severity numbers previously discussed; potential for impact to grow.

    Mitigation: keeping a very close eye on it; closely monitor it.

    Florida excess profit provision'23-'25 accident year period, filing in 2026

    Florida auto business is <10% of PI auto and 1.5% of Travelers overall premium; no return of premium expected for '23-'25 period.

    Mitigation: not going to be a significant issue for the organization, even if we were to need to make a return of premium.

    What to watch in Q4 FY25

    5

    Homeowners RPC moderation

    beginning in early 2026
    Current18%
    Targetdrop into single digits

    Why it matters

    Indicates alignment of replacement costs with insured values and potential for more balanced growth in the Homeowners segment.

    We expect RPC to remain elevated in the fourth quarter and then drop into single digits beginning in early 2026 as values will have largely aligned with replacement costs.

    Q&A highlights

    6

    Analyst asks about consolidated top-line growth for 2026/2027 given current headwinds, and the potential for AI to drive human resource savings and headcount reductions, impacting the expense ratio over 3-5 years.

    Alan Schnitzer stated the company doesn't provide top-line outlook but is confident in its value proposition and investments to drive growth. On AI, he expressed bullishness and significant expected benefits, noting a long track record of driving value from strategic initiatives. He emphasized creating operating leverage over just focusing on the expense ratio, allowing flexibility in deploying gains.

    We're not going to tell you what our plan is for the expense ratio beyond next year. But I'll also tell you that more than our focus is on the expense ratio, it's on creating operating leverage, and that's what gives us the flexibility to deploy those gains however want to deploy them.

    asked by Charles Peters · answered by Alan Schnitzer

    2 min read6 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

    01

    Strategic Investments and Operating Leverage

    Travelers has successfully invested $13 billion in technology since 2016, returned over $20 billion to shareholders, and grown its investment portfolio by nearly 50% to over $100 billion. This has led to a 300 basis point reduction in the expense ratio since 2016, even with increased technology spending, demonstrating strong operating leverage and efficiency gains.

    02

    AI and Data Advantage

    The company is bullish on AI, investing over $1.5 billion annually in technology, much of it focused on AI. Its scale provides access to over 65 billion clean data points from decades of history, which is leveraged to sharpen underwriting, shape claims strategies, and create a virtuous cycle of better insights and outcomes.

    03

    Fortress Balance Sheet and Investment Discipline

    Travelers maintains a fortress balance sheet and exceptional cash flow, enabling consistent investment regardless of external conditions. Over 90% of its investment portfolio is in fixed income with an average credit rating of AA, held to maturity, and carefully coordinated with liabilities, resulting in default rates significantly below industry averages during challenging periods.

    04

    Loss Environment Management

    The company emphasizes its ability to confront the loss environment, including weather volatility🌐 and social inflation, through data, analytics, and discipline. Since identifying the acceleration of social inflation in 2019, Travelers has grown its business and improved margins, highlighting the importance of an accurate and timely view of loss trends for effective risk selection and underwriting.

    05

    Distribution Channel Strength

    Travelers maintains an unmatched strategic advantage with its independent distribution channel, comprising key agents and brokers. Strategic investments are resonating with partners, reinforcing the company's commitment to being an indispensable partner and undeniable choice for customers.

    06

    Personal Insurance Exposure Management

    The company continues to execute actions to reduce exposure and manage volatility in high-risk catastrophe geographies within Homeowners. Most of these property actions are expected to be completed by year-end, which should moderate📎 the downward pressure on both property and auto growth starting in early 2026.

    AI-generated summary of the company’s earnings call. Not investment advice.