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UBS Group AG (UBS) Q4 FY25 earnings call: guidance and Q&A

Earnings call· Dec 2025 (Q4 FY25)· Financials· Feb 4, 2026

Source: earnings call transcript

Executive summary

UBS Group AG Q4 FY25 — Capital Repatriation and Strategic Progress Amidst Headwinds

UBS reported strong capital generation and repatriation in Q4 FY25, with significant capital upstreamed from UBS AG, exceeding prior expectations. While strategic integration of Credit Suisse progresses well, evidenced by client retention and US licensing advancements, the firm faces headwinds from Swiss franc interest rates delaying cost/income targets and FX impacts on capital ratios. Management remains confident in its net new asset and Global Banking revenue targets, but acknowledges high market volatility and geopolitical risks.

Highlights

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  • CHF 9 billion dividend accrued from UBS AG, with CHF 4.5 billion paid in H1, demonstrating strong capital generation.

  • CHF 13 billion capital upstreamed from UBS AG in 2024, exceeding expectations due to faster derisking of Credit Suisse assets.

  • Net new assets (NNA) expected to grow to CHF 125 billion in 2026 from CHF 100 billion in 2025, with a target of CHF 200 billion by 2028.

  • US licensing process progressing constructively, with conditional approval expected to move to final approval during the year.

  • Vast majority of Credit Suisse client relationships retained post-merger, despite expected outflows for diversification.

Concerns

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  • Swiss franc interest rate headwinds are expected to delay the achievement of an underlying cost/income ratio below 50% by the end of 2026.

  • FX-driven headwinds on Tier 1 leverage ratios are preventing full capital upstreaming from UBS AG to the holding company.

  • Potential for event-driven volatility and spikes in volatility remains high due to geopolitical issues, commodity issues, and AI-related market fragility.

  • US FA attrition is occurring due to changes in the compensation grid, though management expects to manage this without impacting pretax margins.

  • Global Banking revenue target of doubling 2022 revenues faces execution feasibility challenges due to market volatility, despite a strong pipeline.

Guidance & targets

CategoryTargetConfidence
Underlying cost/income ratio
below 50%
high materiality
Low
Net new assets (NNA)
around CHF 125 billion
high materiality
High
Net new assets (NNA)
CHF 200 billion
high materiality
High
Global Banking revenues
doubling 2022 revenues
high materiality
Medium

Deals & partnerships

Cantor Sale of O'Connor business

The difference in the booked loss from earlier disclosures was due to a change in the sale perimeter resulting from events in late Q3 and early Q4.

Risks & headwinds

Swiss franc interest rate headwinds by end of 2026

delay achievement of underlying cost/income ratio below 50%

FX-driven headwinds on Tier 1 leverage ratios

preventing full capital upstreaming

Mitigation:maintaining prudent buffers

Event-driven volatility this year

high potential for spikes

Mitigation:requiring diversification across asset classes and geographies

Client outflows post-merger

some market share lost

Mitigation:retaining vast majority of relationships; focusing on sustainable returns and appropriate risk-reward

Redundancies and job losses H1 2026 into H2 2026 and early 2027

reduction in force

Mitigation:managing through attrition; redeploying and retraining employees (2/3 of open roles filled internally)

Barofsky investigation / Credit Suisse legacy matters ongoing until investigation is over

substantial effort in time and money

Mitigation:collaborating with investigation; professional and fact-based engagement; seeking legal protection for privacy laws

AI-triggered market sell-off recent

seen since yesterday for software and services firms

Mitigation:helping clients navigate; monitoring for longer-term trends

US FA attrition

some adviser movement

Mitigation:expected outcome of compensation grid changes designed to improve pretax margins; managed without impacting pretax margins

Global Banking revenue target execution feasibility 2026

volatility and market conditions

Mitigation:diversified pipeline (sponsor-led, corporates, strategic M&A, IPOs); constructive environment with institutional investors

Legal risk from reopening 1999 Holocaust settlement

potential claims

Mitigation:requesting Judge Korman to confirm scope of settlement; refusing to breach Swiss privacy laws without legal protection

What to watch in Q1 FY26

Second half of UBS AG dividend payment

later in the year
Current CHF 4.5 billion paid in H1
Target Decision on remaining CHF 4.5 billion payment

Why it matters

Indicates capital deployment flexibility and ongoing capital generation from the operating entity.

We're paying CHF 4.5 million of it in the first half. We will revisit whether we pay the second half later in the year, not least also owing to developments in the capital framework.

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Q&A highlights

Clarify if the sub-50% cost/income ratio target for 2026 is achievable without further cost-cutting, and provide the total sum of capital parked at UBS AG available for upstreaming.

Management clarified that Swiss franc interest rate headwinds will delay the sub-50% cost/income ratio target for 2026. For capital, CHF 9 billion was accrued, with CHF 4.5 billion paid in H1, and the rest to be revisited. They noted FX headwinds on Tier 1 leverage ratios constrain further upstreaming, but confirmed CHF 13 billion was upstreamed in 2024 and the current upstreaming was part of original planning.

“In terms of our financial ambition, it is likely that the Swiss franc interest rate headwinds that have persisted since 2024 will delay the achievement of an underlying cost/income ratio below 50% by the end of 2026.”

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Detailed narrative

Capital Repatriation and Basel III Endgame

UBS successfully accrued a CHF 9 billion dividend from UBS AG, with CHF 4.5 billion paid in the first half, and plans to revisit the second half later in the year. This follows CHF 13 billion upstreamed in 2024. Management clarified that this capital repatriation was part of their original planning post-Credit Suisse acquisition, enabled by faster-than-expected derisking of noncore assets.

They also addressed the CHF 26 billion capital build-up requirement, stating that the current CHF 21.5 billion remaining already accounts for these repatriated funds, emphasizing no 'double counting' or 'low-hanging fruits' in their calculations. The firm welcomes deeper analysis of alternative options for capitalizing foreign subsidiaries, including AT1 bonds, to address lessons learned from the Credit Suisse failure, while criticizing superficial dismissal of such options.

Credit Suisse Integration and Client/Employee Impact

The integration of Credit Suisse has led to some client outflows, which management attributes to clients seeking diversification and the shedding of economically unviable relationships. However, the outflows were less than anticipated, and the vast majority of client relationships were retained.

On the employee front, management acknowledged the painful process of redundancies, which will begin in H1 and continue into H2 2026 and early 2027. They emphasized a 'one team, one bank' approach, focusing on meritocracy and fair treatment, and highlighted efforts to redeploy and retrain employees, filling 2/3 of open roles internally.

US Licensing and Regulatory Engagement

UBS expects to move from conditional approval to final authorization for its US licensing process during the year. Management characterized engagement with US authorities, including the OCC and Federal Reserve, as constructive. This progress indicates that regulators are satisfied with UBS's efforts to meet the heightened standards required for a national charter, which is a key step in the integration of the Credit Suisse US operations.

Market Outlook and Volatility

Entering the year, markets were broadly constructive, with equity markets reflecting higher dispersion and lower correlation, creating favorable conditions for trading and private client businesses. However, management highlighted a high potential for event-driven volatility and spikes due to geopolitical issues, commodity fluctuations, and recent AI-related market fragility.

While the first quarter remained 'risk on,' requiring diversification, it is too early to determine if these trends will persist throughout the year, necessitating close monitoring of potential longer-term impacts.

Barofsky Investigation and Legal Strategy

UBS expressed satisfaction with its executives' handling of the US Senate Committee hearing on the Barofsky investigation, emphasizing their professional and fact-based approach to a Credit Suisse legacy matter. The firm continues to collaborate and invest substantial effort and resources into the investigation.

However, UBS maintains that it cannot breach Swiss privacy laws by releasing certain data to third parties without a change in law or protection from appropriate authorities. The firm's legal strategy includes requesting Judge Korman to confirm the scope of the 1999 Holocaust settlement, aiming to prevent the reopening of matters already closed and settled.

O'Connor Sale and US Wealth Management

The sale of O'Connor resulted in a booked loss, indicating that the proceeds received were less than the cost basis. This difference was attributed to a change in the sale perimeter due to events in late Q3 and early Q4.

In the US wealth management business, changes to the compensation grid have led to some financial advisor (FA) attrition. Management views this as an expected outcome necessary to improve pretax margins and achieve sustainable profitable growth, asserting that the attrition will not negatively impact the business's pretax margin.

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